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All Forum Posts by: Patrick Fraire

Patrick Fraire has started 8 posts and replied 151 times.

Post: Hubzu vs Auction vs court house bidding

Patrick FrairePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 155
  • Votes 118

@Rahim Kakar

I hate the Hubzu buyer premium AND squatters find the properties listed on hubzu and break in sometimes and call it their new home. Definitely not a typical case but I have seen it twice (in so cal) in the last year.

No experience with court house steps but I think it’s gotta be better than hubzu at this point. Also I see a ton of properties go out to bid on hubzu. The auction ends...then two weeks later the same property is back to auction. Not sure why but doesn’t sound like these auctions end up in a sale typically.

Post: Does Number of Days on MLS affect your buying decisions?

Patrick FrairePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 155
  • Votes 118

@Mo Farraj

It can still be a deal if it’s sitting. The issue is probably that the asking price is too high. If you offer lower than asking and they accept it could then be a deal. But no one else saw it as a deal because they didn’t analyze the numbers below the asking price.

Post: [Calc Review] This Deal looks SOLID, but you decide!

Patrick FrairePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 155
  • Votes 118

@Adam Scheetz

What area is this?

Post: [Calc Review] This Deal looks SOLID, but you decide!

Patrick FrairePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 155
  • Votes 118

@Adam Scheetz

That’s pretty solid especially for something that will have conventional financing without a balloon payment.

Post: When the contractor is over the timeline, by A LOT.

Patrick FrairePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 155
  • Votes 118

@Mandi Martinez

When the contractor gives you a time estimate. It is usually best case scenario. If he says twelve weeks tell him you’ll give him 14 weeks but if he goes over that. He will pay Liquidated Damages of $100 per day. They always go over their estimate. It’s hard to stick to because they pick us more work during your job. Hopefully the fear of going over your timeline will make them postpone work until after your job.

For smaller jobs for example if they say 4 weeks. Tell them you’ll give them a $400 bonus do it within 5. Like I said they always go over. If you say you’ll give them a bonus if they do it in the time frame they gave you they will probably back track and say well you know 4-5 weeks. Just give them a little bit of time right off the bat and they will feel like the challenge you gave them is reasonable.

Post: I'm feeling like a bad person.

Patrick FrairePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 155
  • Votes 118

@Chris Hanisco

Wow this is a tough one. I have never heard of a situation like this. I understand why you’d feel bad. Those kids are probably excited. But I think you pointed out some red flags that can’t be ignored. I’d put on the business woman hat right away and give them notice. If they confront you just be honest and tell them you need to remodel and raise rents. Good luck!

Post: Handy man fees...Your thoughts

Patrick FrairePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 155
  • Votes 118

@Meg K.

Those seem pretty reasonable IMO. Definitely not the friends and family price but I would say he is charging you a reasonable and standard amount.

Post: How do you like having paid off rentals?

Patrick FrairePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 155
  • Votes 118
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Patrick Fraire:
Originally posted by @Steve Vaughan:
Originally posted by @Patrick Fraire:
Originally posted by @Steve Vaughan:
Originally posted by @Patrick Fraire:
Originally posted by @Steve Vaughan:

1. If you think paying off a car is the minimum pre requisite for understanding real estate investments we have bigger issues.  I leased a 2018 Honda Civic base model last year for 150/month with 0 down. 

This is a thread about having paid-off rentals.

Not even having a paid-for car speaks to the level of legitimacy your theory and opinion warrant on the matter.

That will be all. 

My theory is cash on cash return is the true barometer for a successful investment and if there’s is an opportunity to buy low, someone with a paid off property should use that equity to capitalize on the down market. Thus increasing their cash on cash return.  

I don’t see why I need to pay off a car to say that. I leased a car. What am I to do. I only owe 150/month x 24 months. I think that’s okay. I don’t think that’s so bad Steve. Why have cash sitting in a depreciating asset? 

This isn't the 'If you lease a car, tell me why' show.

This is a 'How do you like your paid off rentals?' show.     

For some reason, you singled me out like I asked for your opinion, then you gave it to me.  I found myself answering to you, then you gave me an attah boy.  LOL

Patrick, how do you like having paid off rentals? Answer the title question.

I have a cash buyer for my kindney. I will be using that cash to pay off the $3600 I owe on my car. Thank you for telling me like it is. Most people would’ve let me continue down this destructive path of commenting on threads without having my car paid off. It wasn’t what I wanted to hear but it’s what I NEEDED to hear. 

Patrick, in all seriousness, Steve could really help you and instead you think it is funny to crack jokes at his expense? Steve is a full time investor with a good size portfolio that he built it up from nothing. He is actually really laid back.

Patrick (by your own statements) you are a college student, you are a renter, own no property and have a low credit score, so low you can't get bank financing. And you lease cars. 

Why don't you just listen and learn, instead of attacking people who are way more successful than you?

Ohhhhh buddy. This is gettin spicy. I admit I got a little silly with the kidney statement but I was just doing what I was told (Aaron planted the kidney idea in my head so take that up with him). I thought it was funny he brought up the car stuff and I admit again I was a bit of a silly goose. I do that when people say silly things to me. I thought we weren’t being silly. Now regarding your statements about me personally. Also I own property which is conventionally financed in Riverside CA. My credit score is decent like 700somethin. And i graduated college a couple years ago.

Post: How do you like having paid off rentals?

Patrick FrairePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 155
  • Votes 118
Originally posted by @Steve Vaughan:
Originally posted by @Patrick Fraire:
Originally posted by @Steve Vaughan:
Originally posted by @Patrick Fraire:
Originally posted by @Steve Vaughan:

1. If you think paying off a car is the minimum pre requisite for understanding real estate investments we have bigger issues.  I leased a 2018 Honda Civic base model last year for 150/month with 0 down. 

This is a thread about having paid-off rentals.

Not even having a paid-for car speaks to the level of legitimacy your theory and opinion warrant on the matter.

That will be all. 

My theory is cash on cash return is the true barometer for a successful investment and if there’s is an opportunity to buy low, someone with a paid off property should use that equity to capitalize on the down market. Thus increasing their cash on cash return.  

I don’t see why I need to pay off a car to say that. I leased a car. What am I to do. I only owe 150/month x 24 months. I think that’s okay. I don’t think that’s so bad Steve. Why have cash sitting in a depreciating asset? 

This isn't the 'If you lease a car, tell me why' show.

This is a 'How do you like your paid off rentals?' show.     

For some reason, you singled me out like I asked for your opinion, then you gave it to me.  I found myself answering to you, then you gave me an attah boy.  LOL

Patrick, how do you like having paid off rentals? Answer the title question.

I have a cash buyer for my kindney. I will be using that cash to pay off the $3600 I owe on my car. Thank you for telling me like it is. Most people would’ve let me continue down this destructive path of commenting on threads without having my car paid off. It wasn’t what I wanted to hear but it’s what I NEEDED to hear. 

Post: How do you like having paid off rentals?

Patrick FrairePosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Long Beach, CA
  • Posts 155
  • Votes 118
Originally posted by @Aaron Hunt:
Originally posted by @Patrick Fraire:
Originally posted by @Steve Vaughan:
Originally posted by @Patrick Fraire:
Originally posted by @Steve Vaughan:

1. If you think paying off a car is the minimum pre requisite for understanding real estate investments we have bigger issues.  I leased a 2018 Honda Civic base model last year for 150/month with 0 down. 

This is a thread about having paid-off rentals.

Not even having a paid-for car speaks to the level of legitimacy your theory and opinion warrant on the matter.

That will be all. 

My theory is cash on cash return is the true barometer for a successful investment and if there’s is an opportunity to buy low, someone with a paid off property should use that equity to capitalize on the down market. Thus increasing their cash on cash return.  

I don’t see why I need to pay off a car to say that. I leased a car. What am I to do. I only owe 150/month x 24 months. I think that’s okay. I don’t think that’s so bad Steve. Why have cash sitting in a depreciating asset? 

Oh man. Not this again. You haven’t met Steve before, I presume? 

He has a track record to get easily offended, as if someone slapped his ancestors with a backhand, anytime someone has any car debt of any kind and mentions it or acknowledges it. If you’re not driving a paid off hooptie then you’re as good as dead.

You’re actually a worse human being in his mind for it and he will let you know - as he has clearly done in this thread with you.

Must have been sippin something cause this time no one mentioned a car loan and yet Steve still managed bring it up and poo-poo this thread with it! (Now we’re discussing Honda Civic lease payments...)

Dodge the poo by telling Steve you will sell one of your kidneys and pay off your car tomorrow.

This makes soooo much more sense now. I was wondering why he brought up the car lol!