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All Forum Posts by: Matthew Edwards

Matthew Edwards has started 4 posts and replied 16 times.

Post: Greetings everyone!

Matthew EdwardsPosted
  • Durham, NC
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 4

@Brandon Christian - I am on the west side, technically in Orange County but a Durham address. I worked downtown several years ago and still go there regularly.

@Christian Hansen - I have looked into TREIA and hoping to attend either one of the New Investor meetings or the West group. 

Hi all - my first new thread since joining a couple of weeks ago (besides introduction), so I hope I am putting this in the right place.

My main driver in pursuing real estate is passive income, but with an eye to appreciation as well. I don't want to be a flipper, but I see the value in buying a somewhat distressed property and rehabbing it and achieving built in equity. If you have read Nickerson's book, something along the lines of his model. Buying and holding for a short period of a few years or less depending on your timelines, and then rolling up to a bigger investment. I ultimately would like to be in multifamily, but I want to start investing in my own backyard where I know the lay of the land and there are not many small multifamilies around. 

I live near downtown Durham and there are a lot of historic properties in this area. NC also recently re-upped their Historic Tax Credits, so with the combination of NC and Fed tax credit, you can get somewhere in the area of 35-40% of restoration costs back as a credit. One caveat is that for an income-producing property, you must hold the property for 5 years or pay recapture tax in the amount of the credit, which reduces by 20% each year (sell after year 3, pay 40% back, etc).

Thus, one of my ideas is to do a combination of the BRRRR method and these Tax Credits.

An example:

Buy House A for $45k - invest $45k in rehab, rent out, delayed financing to recover all of my investment (assuming at least a $120k appraisal), claim ~$18k in tax credits the following year. Rinse, repeat, perhaps 2-3 times in one year. The credits can be carried forward so, as an attorney with a good earned income, I can drastically increase my available money for further asset purchase for years to come.

I have thought about the following potential downsides:

(1) Holding for five years limits the exit strategy options. I can't turn around and sell it without eating my tax credits. I can do it, but that would a last resort.

(2) Most of the historic houses that are reasonably priced are in the less than desirable areas. However, these areas are trending upwards. People want to be close to downtown and these old houses have a lot of charm. Several of the ones i am considering have houses on the same block that have already been revitalized.

(3) Costs of restoration will generally be higher. Part of this can be deflected by full awareness at purchase of what needs to be restored and how expensive this will be. This will also include having the right architectural eyes on the project, making sure things are done in line with the rules to receive the credit.

(4) Not specific to historic houses, but because of the changing area of the area, historic prices are all over the map. Some sell for practically nothing, some for almost $100k but still needing work. I think my biggest concern is getting in for the right amount so that I have that built in equity and can rent at a rate that covers all of my expenses + kicks off cash.

Does anyone see any glaring downsides to this? In cautionary tales of been there done that lost your shirt?

Post: How to spend $80,000

Matthew EdwardsPosted
  • Durham, NC
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Jerry Padilla:

@Douglas Skipworth Thank You for the mention!

@Anna Smith Douglas has some good suggestions! If you can pay cash to get a house with equity, it is a great way to then, turn around and immediately cash out finance the property with delayed financing. Below is some more facts on delayed financing. You can immediately pull out your initial purchase if the LTV is there. If you keep doing this and pay little out of pocket, your $80k could go a long way. 

Delayed Financing Exception

A cash-out refinance within six (6) months of a purchase transaction when no financing was obtained for the purchase transaction are allowed under the following parameters:

  • The new loan amount is not more than the actual documented amount of the borrower’s initial investment in purchasing the property, plus the financing of closing costs, prepaid fees, and points (subject to the maximum LTV).
  1. 1. SFR mortgage #1-6 - 75% LTV
  2. 2. 2-4 unit MFR mortgage #1-6 70% LTV
  3. 1. SFR mortgage #7-10 -70% LTV
  4. 2. 2-4 unit MFR mortgage #7-10 - 65% LTV

 @Jerry Padilla: I've read a couple of posts today where you provided the above comments and they were very helpful. Just so I am clear, you can borrow up to the amount of money you put into the property, meaning the appraisal in that situation would be for more? Example you buy a house for $90k and then refinance with an appraisal of $120k and pull the $90k back out. 

Second question, does it matter if the "initial investment" was at purchase or rehab costs? If I buy something for $45k and put $45k into it and it appraises for $120k again, am I still able to pull out the $90k?

Thank you!

Post: Veteran excited to start over!

Matthew EdwardsPosted
  • Durham, NC
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 4

Welcome Stephen! Thank you for your service. One of my best friends lives in Jamestown.

Post: Greetings everyone!

Matthew EdwardsPosted
  • Durham, NC
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 4

Hi Brandon, welcome! I am new also and am located in Durham as well, in the rural part.

Post: New Member from Hillsborough/Durham area in NC

Matthew EdwardsPosted
  • Durham, NC
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 4

Hi folks!

I joined Bigger Pockets in the last week and attended Brandon's webinar a couple of nights ago. I didn't plan to buy anything but the rental calculator he showed was so easy I upgraded to Pro immediately. I already had a spreadsheet to run numbers but the presentation from the calculator is excellent and simple.

I am an attorney (patent) and I am new to real estate investing, but have done a few things over the years. Our current house was an REO and with a few rehab projects the first week of the purchase, we are set to make a nice figure when we sell. It's kind of a house-hack I guess, a delayed flip of your personal residence. :)

May main interest is in a buy and hold of multi-family units as small as duplexes or as big as a I can eventually afford. I have a close friend that has been involved in commercial real estate for more than a decade and have heard the ins and outs of his deals as he scribbled them on napkins etc. 

Thus, I have a fair handle on the numbers aspect. I am a numbers/math guy anyway and understand the calculations. What a I lack is market experience. It's one thing to know what kind of return you want and how to run the numbers, but another to understand if your estimate of rent is correct, and what the market will bear to force appreciate a unit. I know how to calculate a Cap Rate, but not if the rate I want is reasonable. :) 

My friend is a deal guy. He only buys if it is an absolute bargain with tons of upside, so I have that imprinted upon me. I'm still analyzing properties and have yet to make my first purchase, but I will get there. In addition analyzing and starting at podcast 01, I have a stack of books to read. Just finishing up Nickerson, love it.

Happy to be here. I've already spent several hours reading the forums. This place is like an MS in Real Estate.

Matthew