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All Forum Posts by: Parker Robertson

Parker Robertson has started 7 posts and replied 25 times.

Post: Review of Turnkey Investment Services

Parker Robertson
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Quote from @Daniele Stroppa:

Hi Parker, just found this post re turnkey service providers and wanted to ask which one did you go with and your experience so far?


 Hey Daniele, I have not gone with any turnkey company. I felt like none of them were a great fit for me. That may certainly change in the future, but for now I will be doing it on my own.

Post: Advice and Recommendations

Parker Robertson
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Quote from @Sean O'Keefe:

@Parker Robertson the 2 out of the last 5 years rule is referred to as a Sec 121 exclusion that @Jake Baker mentioned. 

A couple things to keep in mind if you sell

Since you didn't occupy both sides of the duplex since 04/2022 only half of the property may be eligible for Section 121 exclusion.

1031 exchange is only available on half the property you rented out. 
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*This post does not create a CPA-client relationship. The information contained in this post is not to be relied upon. Readers are advised to seek professional advice.


Hey Sean,

Thanks for the comment. My current residence is not a duplex, but a SFH where I have been renting out the extra rooms. How would that affect my Section 121 eligibility?

Thanks again,
Parker

Post: Advice and Recommendations

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Quote from @Jake Baker:

@Parker Robertson

If you do sell, you should wait till 04/2024 to close. 

The "2 out of the last 5 years" rule in real estate refers to the eligibility criteria for the capital gains tax exclusion on the sale of a primary residence in the United States. To qualify for this exclusion, individuals must have owned and lived in the property as their main residence for at least two out of the last five years preceding the sale. Single filers can exclude up to $250,000 of capital gains, while married couples filing jointly may exclude up to $500,000.

Be sure to consult with a tax professional!


 Thanks for the input, Jake! I have set up multiple discovery calls set up with some real estate focused CPA's to get some more guidance.

Post: Advice and Recommendations

Parker Robertson
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Hello,

I am hoping to get some input from the BP community on my current situation.

I purchased my primary residence 04/2022 and have been house hacking it since. My plan was to live in this property and save up a down payment for property #2, move to property #2 and house hack while making property #1 a full rental.

Property #1 has a 4.25% interest rate and has also appreciated significantly (online estimates say $25,000-$40,000 in appreciation) which is a great problem to have. Unfortunately, property taxes and HOA fees have also risen, while rental rates for the property have not kept up. Because of this, my property will no longer cashflow if rented for the estimated rate assuming I save for vacancy, maintenance, etc. If I managed the property myself and did not pay myself, I would come close to breaking even. This wouldn't be the end of the world since I could use the losses to offset my W2 income, but I would need to refer to a CPA to see if that would really be worth it.

I have a couple of options as I see it. Use the home improvement money I have set aside (~$12,00) to either 1) redo the bathrooms/kitchen to hopefully command higher rent or 2) perform preventative maintenance and lower my maintenance budget per month. These would hopefully allow me to keep the property which is my ideal situation.

Additionally, I could wait until April this year since it will be 2 years as primary residence and then sell/1031 into a new property that would hopefully make a better long term rental while avoiding capital gains tax.

Which option sounds like the better plan? Is there another strategy I haven't considered? Let me know your thoughts!

Post: Rent to Retirement Academy Experience

Parker Robertson
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Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Parker Robertson:
Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Parker Robertson:
Quote from @V.G Jason:

Forcing you to invest is kind of nonsense.

They literally are making more back when you invest then if you didn't and just lost the refund probably. Have to look at these things properly. I've heard this guy speak, he's a smart guy. I don't think I'd want to be on the opposite side of him, I'd rather be in his corner but most of these deals it means he's not necessarily on the same side as you if it's being offered to you and he's not taking it.

I avoid these academies and masterminds of the sort. Just my two cents. 

Typically, I also avoid paid education because there is so much free content. I'm considering this one because it advertises help with tax structuring and LLC advice which is appealing to me. I also like the refund of course.

I may be misremembering this next part, but I recall one of the RTR podcast episodes where he mentions that RTR keeps all the “10’s” and gives the “9’s, 8’s, and 7’s” to the customers. With the amount of support they provide I am not against settling for an 8/10 deal. 

At the end of the day, it’s a big decision choosing who to invest with, but the academy is very enticing.  

Tax structuring and LLC advice you can get for a paid fee too. Or can just research and learn on your own. And then hire a CPA if your problems are big enough-- a good problem.

As for giving the 7-9/10s. Buy that if want, it's probably closer to the 3-5s.  

The refund part is just to get you get committed to another deal that makes them even more  money than that refund. The 90% they are paying you back is probably 1/3 of what they're actually making by you committing to a deal. It's no different than their 2-year, low interest rate teaser houses. Just get you in, and then you got to worry about the problem after. Don't miss the forest for the trees here. It's just bait. They likely will be a bid on the 2 year balloon options, too, in 2025. 

It's more predatory than solution driven. A lot of tremendous resources on this site. 

I don't necessarily mind that they are making a profit off of me; in fact, I expect it. I am willing to pay to leverage their connections, especially considering I am looking for my first out-of-state deal. My biggest aim is to ensure that my long-term success aligns with whoever I invest with's long-term success instead of making their money on the upfront sale and leaving me on my own. 

I imagine there is not much of a relationship with the turnkey service after the sale and I would deal with the PM and Loan company directly. 

Also, I'm not familiar with their 2-year "teaser" product. Could you provide more info? What do you mean when you say they will likely bid on the balloon options in 2 years?

They had some properties in Alabama--new builds--5% down and something like 2.99% financing for 2 years.  Easy google search if you want to look it up.

I do expect them to take profit on this, otherwise how would they survive, but if you think you'll really get far doing this way that's a different question. I don't think so. I've got solid connects to them just being in the trenches; granted they are more connected and deeper I don't doubt I can get there just by being around and doing deals. 

 Thanks I’ll look into that. This is why I love this forum! 

My short term objective is to get my feet wet with my first investment property to learn the ropes while also having my hand held a little bit. I still have my W2 that I’m  not ready to walk away from since it is funding my real estate investments. That is why I’m willing to get a “base hit” from RTR or Norada. I don’t plan to go through the turnkey services as my long term strategy. 

That being said, I’m open to suggestions and input from more experienced investors. 

Post: Rent to Retirement Academy Experience

Parker Robertson
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Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Parker Robertson:
Quote from @V.G Jason:

Forcing you to invest is kind of nonsense.

They literally are making more back when you invest then if you didn't and just lost the refund probably. Have to look at these things properly. I've heard this guy speak, he's a smart guy. I don't think I'd want to be on the opposite side of him, I'd rather be in his corner but most of these deals it means he's not necessarily on the same side as you if it's being offered to you and he's not taking it.

I avoid these academies and masterminds of the sort. Just my two cents. 

Typically, I also avoid paid education because there is so much free content. I'm considering this one because it advertises help with tax structuring and LLC advice which is appealing to me. I also like the refund of course.

I may be misremembering this next part, but I recall one of the RTR podcast episodes where he mentions that RTR keeps all the “10’s” and gives the “9’s, 8’s, and 7’s” to the customers. With the amount of support they provide I am not against settling for an 8/10 deal. 

At the end of the day, it’s a big decision choosing who to invest with, but the academy is very enticing.  

Tax structuring and LLC advice you can get for a paid fee too. Or can just research and learn on your own. And then hire a CPA if your problems are big enough-- a good problem.

As for giving the 7-9/10s. Buy that if want, it's probably closer to the 3-5s.  

The refund part is just to get you get committed to another deal that makes them even more  money than that refund. The 90% they are paying you back is probably 1/3 of what they're actually making by you committing to a deal. It's no different than their 2-year, low interest rate teaser houses. Just get you in, and then you got to worry about the problem after. Don't miss the forest for the trees here. It's just bait. They likely will be a bid on the 2 year balloon options, too, in 2025. 

It's more predatory than solution driven. A lot of tremendous resources on this site. 

I don't necessarily mind that they are making a profit off of me; in fact, I expect it. I am willing to pay to leverage their connections, especially considering I am looking for my first out-of-state deal. My biggest aim is to ensure that my long-term success aligns with whoever I invest with's long-term success instead of making their money on the upfront sale and leaving me on my own. 

I imagine there is not much of a relationship with the turnkey service after the sale and I would deal with the PM and Loan company directly. 

Also, I'm not familiar with their 2-year "teaser" product. Could you provide more info? What do you mean when you say they will likely bid on the balloon options in 2 years?

Post: Rent to Retirement Academy Experience

Parker Robertson
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Quote from @Levi Hall:

Hey Parker! So, I had been looking at investing with RTR for quite a while, but hadn’t done anything yet. My wife and I were in analysis paralysis for sure, but then the academy dropped and we were sure we wanted to get into RE, but didn’t know how and this course was WAY cheaper than comps that ultimately just try and sell you a conference that just tries to sell you… on and on plus like you said, we got most of our money back and got to keep the material. The RTR team wanted us to invest in real estate and most importantly to see us be successful long term. My wife and I couldn’t be happier with our decision to invest in ourselves via the RTR academy.

Levi, thanks for sharing your experience with the academy! How was your experience investing with RTR aside from the academy? I’m in between investing with RTR and Norada and would love to hear input from other investors. 

Post: Rent to Retirement Academy Experience

Parker Robertson
Pro Member
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Quote from @V.G Jason:

Forcing you to invest is kind of nonsense.

They literally are making more back when you invest then if you didn't and just lost the refund probably. Have to look at these things properly. I've heard this guy speak, he's a smart guy. I don't think I'd want to be on the opposite side of him, I'd rather be in his corner but most of these deals it means he's not necessarily on the same side as you if it's being offered to you and he's not taking it.

I avoid these academies and masterminds of the sort. Just my two cents. 

Typically, I also avoid paid education because there is so much free content. I'm considering this one because it advertises help with tax structuring and LLC advice which is appealing to me. I also like the refund of course.

I may be misremembering this next part, but I recall one of the RTR podcast episodes where he mentions that RTR keeps all the “10’s” and gives the “9’s, 8’s, and 7’s” to the customers. With the amount of support they provide I am not against settling for an 8/10 deal. 

At the end of the day, it’s a big decision choosing who to invest with, but the academy is very enticing.  

Post: Rent to Retirement Academy Experience

Parker Robertson
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Rent to Retirment (RTR) has very recently announced the RTR academy that investors can join for a one time payment to learn everything about investing. Additionally, the majority of the price is refunded if you invest with RTR. Originally, the entire price of the academy would be refunded if you invested with RTR, but from what I can tell that has now dropped from 100% to only 90% refund (not sure why they dropped it so shortly after launching). And only if you invest in the following 6 months after you join. 


The numbers make this seem like an amazing deal, but I want to make sure it’s not just a way to grab my business and that it will actually educate me and provide long term value. Has anyone joined the academy that would be willing to share their experiences? 

Post: Review of Turnkey Investment Services

Parker Robertson
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Has anyone had any experience using a turnkey investment service they would recommend?

I've reviewed a few myself (Norada, Rent2retirement, RealWealth, etc.), but since they all promise the same thing - passive cash flow - it is hard to determine which is the best of the bunch. 

I'm looking for any suggestions, recommendations, or advice that could point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance!