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All Forum Posts by: Owen Schwaegerle

Owen Schwaegerle has started 49 posts and replied 172 times.

Post: SLO Real Estate Investor Meetup - Horror Stories Edition

Owen Schwaegerle
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  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Luis Obispo, CA
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 69

Are you ready for a spine-tingling real estate meetup this October? We're excited to invite you to our next SLO Real Estate Investor Meetup, where we'll share hair-raising horror stories from investments gone wrong.

Too often you only hear about real estate deals gone right. People love to share their success stories about massive returns, huge profits, and big wins. This time it's going to be completely different. We are going to raise the curtain and share the behind the scenes, the nitty gritty, and showcase some real estate horror stories!

Date: October 25, 2023
Time: 6:00 PM
Location: The Quality Inn & Suites at 1631 Monterey St, San Luis Obispo, CA 93401

Here's a sneak peek of what to expect:

  • Real-life horror stories from seasoned investors.
  • Ghoulishly good networking opportunities.
  • A prize for the scariest story!

Don't miss this chance to learn from others' mistakes and connect with fellow investors. It's going to be a night you won't forget!

RSVP Now?? By replying to this message

Space is limited, so make sure to secure your spot ASAP. We can't wait to see you there!

If you dare,

Owen Schwaegerle and Ben Tilbury
SLO Investor Meetup
Keller Williams Realty Central Coast
CalDRE 02040597 / 02026424

Post: SLO Real Estate Investor Meetup Investing with your Self Directed Retirement Accounts

Owen Schwaegerle
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Luis Obispo, CA
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 69

And you can also send me a DM to be added to the invite list for future Central Coast Real Estate Investor Meetups.

Post: SLO Real Estate Investor Meetup Investing with your Self Directed Retirement Accounts

Owen Schwaegerle
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Luis Obispo, CA
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 69

If anybody wanted to learn more about the real estate investing with self-directed retirement accounts we have a video recap for you to watch here. 

Post: Breaking the Section 8 Stigma

Owen Schwaegerle
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  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Luis Obispo, CA
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 69

Thanks for all the feedback.

@Nathan Brown the inefficiency is an issue for sure. If they could make it an easier process then it would gain more popularity.

@Greg Weik you definitely raise some valid concerns. You still can select people based upon other reasons that are not listed under the Fair Housing Laws. For example, being a jerk/late/having a bad interaction at the property visit is not a protected class. So you could discriminate against someone for that reason and chose not to accept them for it. Picking your tenants in the most important part of the process to ensure you have a good rental experience.

@Richard F. those are definitely extra concerns. Thank you for bringing those up.

Post: Breaking the Section 8 Stigma

Owen Schwaegerle
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Luis Obispo, CA
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 69

If you’re a landlord you’ve been trained to be leery of Section 8 housing. There is a negative stigma associated with the program and people who receive vouchers in the program. We recently had a panel at the SLO Real Estate Investor Meetup with speakers from HASLO, Five Cities Homeless Coalition, and Transitions Mental Health. During this panel they brought to light the significance that government assistance housing programs provide for our community. To put this into perspective, the majority of people in this program in our area have a monthly income of $1,000-2,000 per month. Where can you find a rental unit in  California for $1,000-2,000 per month? How do you qualify for a rental if you only make that much? And how do you afford food, gas, utilities, shelter, and health care on top of that? The answer is you don’t, so many of these people end up homeless, living in their cars, or on the streets. 

Here are three of the greatest concerns most landlords, including myself, have of Section 8 and these programs.

  1. Section 8 means poor quality tenants
  2. Government inspections of my property
  3. If I rent to Section 8 can I leave the program?

Section 8 means poor quality tenants

Have you ever had a bad tenant? How many of those tenants were Section 8? The truth is you will find bad tenants everywhere. The quality of Section 8 tenants is the same as the general public, sometimes even better. Once you get a Section 8 voucher it’s like winning the lottery. A lot of the people in this program only earn $1-2K/mo, so this totally covers housing! They are so grateful for the program that they do not want to lose it. Plus, in order to qualify they have to check in with their agency regularly. They are on their best behavior and know that they are on a tight leash. Plus, just because they are Section 8 does not mean that they are above the law or the letter of the lease. You as the landlord will still have the right to give them a 3 day notice if they are in breach of the lease agreement for being a disturbance to the right to peaceful enjoyment of the property or if they have trash piling up outside, etc. Granted, these people will not have high incomes or high credit, but the rent payments are guaranteed by the government. Some landlords who get into these agencies actually really enjoy having 1 tenant, the agency, and then the agency fills the units and helps manage the people for you. It’s like have an extra set of eyes and ears on the property, and people who help support the tenants, coaching them to succeed with life skills like budgeting, finance, and health.

Government inspections of my property

Government inspections seem daunting. Who wants the government coming into their property and poking their nose around? The inspection is not as invasive as you’d think. They are simply looking for all the standard stuff: carbon monoxide and smoke detectors, water heater braces, proper ventilation. They want to make sure that your unit is safe and habitable for the tenants living in them. As long as you aren’t a slumlord you shouldn’t have anything to worry about. People need a safe, quality place to live.

Can you leave the program?

Yes, you can leave the program. Once you rent to a Section 8 tenant it does not label you a Section 8 landlord for life. You are not required to turn all of your units or properties over to Section 8. Once the tenant moves out, you do not have to lease the space to a Section 8 tenant again if you do not want to. The tenant signs a lease so you can still give a 3 day notice for lease violations like disturbance of the peace, trash accumulation, animals, etc. Most of these programs have a three way contract they sign. The landlord and the tenant sign a lease, the agency and the tenant sign a contract for terms in order for the tenant to receive the voucher/benefits, and the landlord and agency sign a contract.

Overall, there is a desperate need in our communities for the housing programs to have more units to house their people. One of the panelists shared a story about a 93 year old woman who had been living in a rental for 17 years. Once the property was sold, the new landlords wanted to raise the rent by $1,000/mo. Given that this senior is on a fixed income, she could no longer afford the rent and this forced her to be displaced. That was when the housing providers were able to enter in, get her assistance, and find her housing. Could you imagine a 93 year old woman on the streets? This is why these programs exist. It’s to help those who are in dire need.

Have you tried renting to Section 8? How did it go? If you have written Section 8 off completely, instead of avoiding the program and people who are using this social service, perhaps give it a try and see for yourself how it works out.

Post: SLO Real Estate Investor Meetup Investing with your Self Directed Retirement Accounts

Owen Schwaegerle
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Luis Obispo, CA
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 69

Hi BP Fam,

The SLO Real Estate Investor Meetup will be getting together Tuesday, September 26 at 6PM!

We will be hearing from investors who use retirement funds to purchase real estate. Many people find it difficult to get the funds needed to start investing in real estate, so imagine being able to tap into your retirement funds without having to pay taxes or fees. It's possible through a self-directed IRA. You have to be very careful in how you set this up, manage the money and the paperwork, and it can be very lucrative! If you want to meet fellow investors, agents, lenders, title reps, contractors, and more people doing real estate investing in our area you won't want to miss this event!

Please comment to RSVP or request to be added to the list for future meetups!

Best,

Owen and @Ben Tilbury

Post: Do you ever purchase a property subject to with negative cash flow?

Owen Schwaegerle
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Luis Obispo, CA
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 69

@Tommy Nguyen I like your points - thanks for the feedback!

Post: Do you ever purchase a property subject to with negative cash flow?

Owen Schwaegerle
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Luis Obispo, CA
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 69

Do you ever purchase a property subject to if the property has negative cash flow?Here's the scenario. Purchase price $650K, subject to existing $600K of financing at 3.625%, $25K down, $25K owner carry with principal only payments. Rents are currently $3200/mo.In the scenario it would be getting about -$1,000/mo.Open to hear your thoughts.

Initially it doesn't make sense to do. You could justify it for the tax savings and principal pay down.

Post: SLO Real Estate Investor Meetup - Section 8 Housing

Owen Schwaegerle
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Luis Obispo, CA
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 69

We have a pretty great line up - if you live in San Luis Obispo County, Santa Maria, Paso Robles, or anywhere on the Central Coast you should come!

Post: SLO Real Estate Investor Meetup - Section 8 Housing

Owen Schwaegerle
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • San Luis Obispo, CA
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 69

Affordable housing - do those two words even belong in the same sentence any more? The cost of owning has become so staggering that only 17% of households could afford the median priced home in California in Q1 of 2023. This means more people will be renting for longer, and even the cost to rent can be so exorbitant that government assistance may be the best option for renters.

Section 8 Housing vouchers have long been frowned upon by housing providers, yet Section 8 is now a protected class that cannot be discriminated against. As a housing provider how can you learn to work with Section 8 and other affordable housing programs? At our next SLO Real Estate Investor Meetup we will be having HASLO, Salvation Army, The Link, and 5Cities Homeless Coalition sit on a panel and answer all your questions about Section 8, government assistance, how to become eligible, and remain compliant. Through investing in real estate you can provide much needed opportunity to those in need in our community.

Who do you know that would be interested in attending this free meetup in San Luis Obispo on the beautiful Central Coast of California?

Please RSVP so we can run an accurate headcount for the venue. The address is 1631 Monterey St, San Luis Obispo, CA 93401.

If you are ready to check in with other investors, mix and mingle, and learn how Section 8 can generate income on your investments come and join us!

Best wishes,

Owen and @Ben Tilbury

SLO Investor Meetup

Keller Williams Realty Central Coast

CalDRE 02040597 / 02026424