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All Forum Posts by: Osazee Edebiri

Osazee Edebiri has started 15 posts and replied 315 times.

Post: SFH rental - worth investing?

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Quote from @Rascal Roubos:

I found a 4br home in Grass Valley, CA where seller is willing to do financing w 100k down. Asking price $450k. Pest report shows termites and porch needs replacing or taking out, still assessing real costs of this.  2 car garage can be turned into a separate unit later. Commercial/Residential zoning. 

There are a shortage of LTRs for families so demand is guaranteed, monthly rent ~2.6-2.9k. Number of airbnbs increased and daily occupancy rates decreased in last few years so feels more risky to try Airbnb route.

My numbers show monthly expenses at $1650-2050/mo if I can get a 4% seller finance rate and price of 350-400k. Plus property management costs and repairs. That’s best case scenario $1k cash flow per month and more likely $400.

This would be my first true investment property and would require all the investment capital I’ve acquired to date- I’m feeling nervous about it given predictions for tepid home value appreciation in coming years. Is it worth the opportunity cost of putting that $100k+ in the market for a few years? 

Spinning my wheels,

Rascal

Ps I live in Oakland CA and planning to move to grass valley in a few years, where I could then do local management. 

If you’re able to get it 50 K or 100 K under asking price with seller financing it’s likely that is worth it. Would that make it under market value? But you should really find out the reason why the seller would be willing to do that and make sure that reason doesn’t come back to bite you.

Post: ADU on 4 unit CA

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Quote from @Tony Cavalli:

Thanks for the response @Dan H.! Appreciate your time. I dont believe a 4 unit with an ADU is going to be looked at as a 5 unit. I was under the assumption that it would be considered a non-commercial residential 4 unit with an ADU? Interesting, I mean honestly the Cap rate valuation is what I want but I don't think that would be the case. I've called a couple appraisers to discuss and i've been getting mixed responses. IIthink about it like this... A house with an ADU does not become a duplex, it's a house with an ADU.

Hey Tony,

I would say you have been getting mix responses because adding an ADU to a 4 unit is uncommon.

If we look at this from a property development perspective most major cites and California law support building additional units because of the shortage of housing.

Lenders who have not caught up yet with financing on multifamily with ADU’s would be your challenge when it comes to appraisal.

I think I would look at it this way, if in the short run building the ADU adds enough value to the property aside from appreciation then it might make sense. Value, for example, would be your rent appreciation. 

If you need to refi or pull money out right away, then it might not make the most sense and maybe use the funds towards another investment.

My guess is lending will catch up with the financial assessments of ADU’s on multifamily since more housing units on a lot is our current trajectory.

Post: To scale quickly or utilize a large project

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Quote from @Benjamin Geleris:

Hello,

I am looking for some advice, as well as some potential people to work with.  I am currently living in the bay area of California and have been searching for a primary residence over the past 8 months with no luck.  I am planning on switching my strategy for the next year or two and I would like to find a good realtor company that can help reach my goals.  

Because the bay area is so competitive I am interested in investing out of the area, preferably in Southern California where I am originally from (Claremont, Pomona, Upland), however, I am also very open to investing out of state as well. I will do this while I continue to rent. My goal is to use a portion of what would have been my down payment (~$300 K) to invest in SFR or Multi-family to gain a monthly cashflow of ~$10 K. With this I will buy a house next year and use this monthly income to pay for my mortgage payments. I expect less than $300 K would be sufficient to gain this goal of $10 K / month. Would you agree with this?

I am looking for a real estate company that does not just look to sell me a house, but is also able to connect me with property mangers, contractors, lenders, etc in order to "build my team". I am not sure if it would be better to make multiple small purchases of SFR vs. one or two large purchase of multi-family to reach my goal of $10k / mo. I would appreciate any connections and advice.

Thank you,

Ben  Geleris

Hey Ben,

As a realtor who helps investors purchase properties and owns properties here in the Bay, I would start by saying $300k is definitely enough to purchase a property here depending on your income. I have helped people purchase with less. 

So, to realistically get an idea of how to help you go in the right direction. I would want to know more about what was going on in your search over the last 8 months and how you came up with 10k cash flow a month as a goal? No wrong answers, I just believe it helps the starting point of your question.




Post: House hacking in Oakland. Regulations about changing 4 units to 3 units, or condo con

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Quote from @Steven Pennybaker:

Hey BiggerPockets!

I'm a first time real estate investor and interested in househacking a quad in Oakland. I am throwing a couple ideas around in my head and hoping you could guide me!

Is it possible with Oakland regulations to turn a quad into a triplex? I would prefer to live in a 4br 2ba than one of 4 2br 1ba. 

Is it possible to convert a quad into condos? I am considering going into this with my partner who would only be able to pay 1/4th the mortgage. If we could designate one of the four units as being theirs, it could make for an easy split if we were to separate instead of having to sell the property or me having to buy them out. 

Interested in hearing your thoughts. Thanks :)


 Hey Steven,

It's funny, I am typing this response while sitting in a friends house who had split a house into two units and then sold one of the units. He has a small HOA with the owner of the other unit.

I haven't done it personally, so I don't know all the details.

What you are asking should be doable, you would just need to research with the city Oakland to figure out the steps and cost. I imagine if you try to remove a unit buying turning a quad to a tri, in your first that might get more push back, since these cities have pressure on supply of housing. 

Last thing is, in your research if it comes up as an option, I would avoid having the condos getting designated as TIC's. Those are harder to sale and have less value than regular condos.

Post: FirstTime Home Buyer

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Quote from @Karim Kane:

Hi BP Community,

My name is Karim, and I'm currently a college student in Boston. Real Estate investing has captured my interest, and I'm excited to start my journey in this field as soon as possible. I've already discussed this passion with my family, and we've come up with an exciting possible opportunity.

Here's the plan: My sister lives and works in California, specifically around Oakland or Martinez, but she's presently back home in Senegal (our country of origin) for the next few months. She'll be returning to California in October for a year, and during our discussions, we thought about the possibility of purchasing a property for her to live in initially. Once she moves out, the idea is to turn it into our first rental property. However, we are well aware of the sky-high property prices in California, and we currently have approximately $20,000 saved up for a down payment.

Considering the current market conditions, we would greatly appreciate any tips, advice, or insights that you kind folks may have regarding the feasibility of our plan. Your valuable input could make a world of difference for us and would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!


 Hey Karim,

Congratz on catching the real estate bug.  Based on what you stated purchasing a home in Oakland or Martinez will be challenging, not necessarily impossible, but it depends on your goals and how you can structure things. If you have 20K, you will need money for closing costs too and your sisters income or whomever is qualifying for the loan with be a big factor as well. 

Focusing on house hacking and also future appreciation would really be your main routes since it would be really hard to get a property that cashflows with those numbers. What type of living situation is your sister comfortable with? Aiming to rent out additional rooms in the house while your sitter lives would bring in the most income or if you can somehow setup an MTR. Then when moves out rent her room as well. The structure of the home will dictate how much income comes in. Once you find a better idea what types of numbers are achievable for you, you can make a decision if the estimated amount of income you will bring in, will be worth it to you (likely chasing future appreciation). If you want stronger cash flow numbers, you will likely need to save up more funds to be able to pursue properties that can command more income.

Hope this helps.

Post: Funniest Most Bizarre Encounter?

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Quote from @Greg Stetz:

Holy smokes! That’s something you won’t forget. I’ve never experienced an earthquake yet.. sad for all those people that perished and got hurt. 

Yeah, technically I don’t personally know the feeling of the aftermath of that quake since I was too young. But earthquakes happen all the time, the minor ones that are big enough to feel are less frequent, and they end up being a thing of novelty. 

Post: The real estate approach for me?

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Quote from @Nick Hulme:

Thanks for the replies. I'll add a bit more detail about our situation...

My mom is widowed and lives in south San Jose with my 13-year-old sister. My wife is in a starting position at Apple, and she has a strong chance of being promoted within the next year or two. I am the head of sales at a medical device development company. Since we are young, our salaries are low by bay area standards, but we both have good care trajectory and make a combined $155k gross, plus commission bonuses. We rent the basement apartment for $1,000 a month.

Long story short - we're not planning to jump ship on our careers right away. We anticipate real estate investment being a side hustle for the first few years, unless we can instantly make significantly more than our current income. Leaving town is also a tough option to consider because, not only would it force us to find new jobs, but it would separate us from family that needs us around.


 It's good you are thinking about it and planning. I definitely wish I would I have the base understanding I have now, when I graduated college. 

My thought is focus aggressively on "Delayed Gratification".

Many people always talk about ways to focus on buying property with low or no money down, or ways to do things on the low. However, the reality is the more capital you have the easier and the faster you will scale, to get the family RE business you are shooting for.

So, I am not saying become a scrooge to where you burn yourself out and have no joy in your life, and I will tell you I still struggle with this concept, but I like to think I am getting better with it on the daily. Watching the likes of the way a David Greene operates is super motivation in the regards of delayed gratification. 

So set minimum monthly savings goals, and save over those amounts. Create one, two or more accounts that funds go into that are only dedicated to purchasing property, that you act like they don't exist until you purchase your first one.

If can be helped, maybe don't have your first kid till after you purchase your first property. I say this because, it is very likely your first investment will be a house hack and not have children especially a new born, will give you the most flexibility to be able to capitalize and maximize your potential income from that property.

I would focus on continued free education for now, you don't need to pay for any kind of learning until at least after you get that first investment, since there is more than enough information out for you to be able to do that without paying for education at this point.

Good Luck, Keep us posted on how its going.

Post: Funniest Most Bizarre Encounter?

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Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Bjorn Ahlblad:

First hour of first day of house hunting south of San Francisco Ca. 1987. Everything is going fine, and we had an earthquake(my first)! Not too strong, but it broke a window and definitely got my attention. "Welcome to California" the realtor said! Two years later we had a real one! Sixty five people died and a bridge collapsed.


I was in my office in San Mateo and my computer monitor flew off my desk during the big one. !
I was talking to a client of mine in Sonoma who i had just sold a ranch to and I said hey Don I think we are having a quake and he said really not 2 seconds later it hit him and he said got to go!!

Had many humorous encounters over the years Although I have to say working in the distressed real estate space there is a lot of pain and not so much humor.  Unless that humor is at the expense of another.

 I was two years old when that earthquake happened, in a house in Hercules. I don't remember what it physically felt like, but I can can remember my mom running around with my infant brother and then getting all 3 of us under the dining table. One of my first memories.

Post: 4 & 5 Unit Buildings that advertise “Seller Financing” but want 40% down

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Quote from @Darnell Robinson:

New investor here. As I try to explore Seller Financing, I’ve come across 2 situations. 

2129 Clinton Ave, Alameda is a 5 unit building asking $2,350,000. Seller Financing available at 3.5% over 9 years left on current term & they want 41% down.

3868 Maybelle Ave, Oakland is a 4plex asking $1,460,000 at 5.25% over 5 years(agent says this is negotiable) and they also want 40% down to clear the first. 

I’m new on this seller finance area and called to find out what the terms were on each. The Alameda agent was very nice and professional as I explained I was new to this and had questions. He immediately sent me all the info I asked and said if the buyer that they current had in escrow didn’t get approved, he would call me asap.

The Oakland agent was rather condescending and told me that if I didn’t “have $650k to put down then I shouldn’t bank on getting any deals of this size done.” I explained to her as nicely as possible that I have had many conversations with private lenders and hard money lenders and boom 💥 she cut me off and scoffed at me that “neither of those wants to take a second position so I don’t think you know what you’re talking about!” I didn’t get upset I simply replied that I wasn’t so sure of that. To this, she got a little condescending so I I told her to have a nice evening and that I’d probably meet her at some point in the future and looked forward to learning more. (I’m also an agent in Oakland).

When a seller is asking for 40% down, is this because they want to take care of the first lien? 

Am I wrong for calling and trying to learn on the fly? 


 Agents will be agents. Some will take the time to give you more info, some will expect you to know most everything in advance. I had an agent who got mad at me for asking for disclosures yesterday, and I just realized that he doesn't do much business here in the Bay and realize that most listings provide inspections. You just have to roll with it. The 2nd agent you mentioned could also be frustrated with their seller or the situation of trying to sell their listing and took it out on you. 

 As far as seller financing, my experience is since most homes in the Bay Area can get a seller who moderate to well qualified, paying with a standard financing or even cash, why would a seller want to finance? Most sellers want to get their money and go on to the next. Therefore, it is helpful to understand a sellers motivation when they are offering it. So 40% maybe paying off the first loan, but it could also be the minimum the seller needs to whatever they plan to do next. Also, a lot of seller financing, especially in the bay, arises when their as issue that obscures the more traditional sale.

Post: Oakland Unpermitted ADU Amnesty Program

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Quote from @Carolyn McBride:

Purchased a home in Oakland in late 2022 which had a non-permitted garage-converted detached ADU in the backyard. All the construction for the ADU was unpermitted/undocumented and the previous owners were contractors themselves.

I want to apply to the Oakland Amnesty program, but one of the requirements is that they need proof of the establishment/construction and also occupation of the ADU prior to 2021.

Since I just bought the home in late 2022, what is the best way to go about the proof of establishment and occupancy requirement? I'm not even sure what type of evidence the city needs for amnesty, since the whole garage conversion was done unpermitted/undocumented by the previous homeowners. I believe unpermitted ADU's is extremely common in Oakland.

Does anyone have experience with the Oakland ADU Amnesty program? I'd love to get details on how easy the process was, as I'm concerned about the city forcing me to get rid of the whole unit itself.


 I mean this an interesting thing, they want you to provide any proofs to give you amnesty.In my experience Oakland can be very convoluted to the point things don't make any sense. So, while I am not aware of anyone who has gone through this program successfully, I would recommend you call the city directly. Get the people who are potentially making the decision to give you more details and specifically what it would take to get it done. Probably, just don't give them your address until you are sure it is something you want to do. Haha.