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All Forum Posts by: Omar Ruiz

Omar Ruiz has started 75 posts and replied 226 times.

Post: 13 Unit Apartment Complex - Where We Learned Some Hard Lessons

Omar Ruiz
Posted
  • Investor
  • Anaheim, CA
  • Posts 242
  • Votes 80

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) commercial investment investment.

Purchase price: $650,000
Cash invested: $350,000
Sale price: $880,000

We purchased this 13 unit apartment complex in 2013. We learned a lot about the rehab and running a larger property operation. We fine-tuned our tenant qualification procedures and improved our due diligence skills as it was one the oldest properties we ever purchased - built in the 1940's. It was also our toughest property to operate due to the buildings mechanical systems and rough neighborhood.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

It was the largest multifamily property we owned at the time. At the time of purchase we were on a winning streak making good acquisitions and consistent cashflows. We later found out the seller had deceived us about the rents being current and the neighborhood was rough (crime, drug dealing, prostitutes).

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

A broker let us know about it and we negotiated what we felt was a fair price at $50k/door for California asset.

This property humbled us as it taught us about some of our weaknesses and lack of knowledge. In the end I was very grateful to have had this experience on a smaller property because it made our company stronger for the future. If we had made the same mistakes on a larger property, it could have been financial damaging and lost money.

How did you finance this deal?

We got a loan from Chase and partnered with an investor.

How did you add value to the deal?

Because we didn't verify rent deposit at acquisition, we had to evict almost everyone after purchase. We improved the tenant profile and increased rents over time. We upgraded the plumbing system and installed wrought iron fencing and automatic driveway gates and secure access to improve safety. We rehabbed the interior by installing nicer floors, kitchen cabinetry and overhauled the showers. We generated extra income by renting out garages.

What was the outcome?

We had to use a significant amount of our rehab reserves for installing wrought iron fencing for better security and invest in the dated plumbing system. We owned other properties somewhat close by, so we felt confident about it, but we didn't fully know the neighborhood. Despite periods of non-existent cashflow and tight budgeting, we eeked out a 9% return to our investors. It was a tough, long grind but luckily we didn't need to make a capital call and our investors hung in there with us.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

We improved our due diligence when it came to plumbing and electrical on older building. We do extensive research on incomes and demographics in the neighborhoods. We also learned to verify rent deposits as many tenants were not paying rents, even though the sellers made us believe rents were current.

Post: 13 Unit Apartment Complex - Where We Learned Some Hard Lessons

Omar Ruiz
Posted
  • Investor
  • Anaheim, CA
  • Posts 242
  • Votes 80

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) commercial investment investment.

Purchase price: $650,000
Cash invested: $350,000
Sale price: $880,000

We purchased this 13 unit apartment complex in 2013. It was our second commercial real estate deal. We learned a lot about the rehab process and running a larger property operation. We fine-tuned our tenant qualification procedures and
improved our due diligence skills as it was one the oldest properties we ever purchased - built in the 1940's.

At the time of purchase we were on a winning streak making good acquisitions and consistent cashflows. This property humbled us as it taught us about some of our weaknesses and lack of knowledge. In the end I was very grateful to have had this experience on a smaller property because it made our company stronger for the future. If we had made the same mistakes on a larger property, it could have been financially damaging. However, I wish we still owned it because after all our improvements and continued rent increases, our cashflow would be outstanding now.

We had to use a significant amount of our interior rehab reserves for installing wrought iron fencing for better security and invest in the dated plumbing system. We owned other properties somewhat close by, so we felt confident about it, but we didn't fully know the area. It turned out to be a rough neighborhood (crime, drug dealing, prostitutes). We had to remove or evict practically everyone (except the sec 8 tenant) shortly after acquisitions. Luckily we made a good decision to address the security issues first by installing wrought iron fencing on the perimeter; automatic gates on the driveways and secure pedestrian and laundry room entry. Once the property was safe and all bad elements were removed, our jobs become a lot easier. We turned the worst property in the neighborhood into the best and it helped the neighborhood improve as the multifamily across the street went through a full rehab as well shortly before we sold this one.

Despite periods of non-existent cashflow and tight budgeting, we managed to eek out a 9% return to our investors. It was a tough, long grind but luckily we didn't need to make a capital call and our investors hung in there with us.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

It was the largest multifamily property we owned at the time.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

A broker let us know about it and we negotiated what we felt was a fair price at $50k/door for California asset.

How did you finance this deal?

We got a loan from Chase and partnered with an investor.

How did you add value to the deal?

We improved the tenant profile and increased rents over time. We upgraded the plumbing system and installed wrought iron fencing and automatic driveway gates to improve safety. We rehabbed the interior by installing nicer floors, kitchen cabinetry and overhauled the showers. We generated extra income by renting out garages.

What was the outcome?

We increased our cashflow and improved the value, but only managed a 9% return on investment in the end due to intermittent cashflow during the first couple of years.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

We improved out due diligence when it came to older buildings and neighborhood. We also learned to verify rent deposits as many tenants were not paying rents, even though the sellers made us believe rents were current.

Post: 10-duplex portfolio; funding advice

Omar Ruiz
Posted
  • Investor
  • Anaheim, CA
  • Posts 242
  • Votes 80

You can find a partner or passive investor that has the funds to close the deal. You may also need a partner with the net-worth to get the funding. 

Maybe it's time to start networking for partners that can help you overcome this challenge for the next deal (in case this one doesn't happen). Otherwise, you'll have to build your personal net-worth and income over time to take advantage of similar opportunities. 

Post: 100% equity, but no cash for rehab.

Omar Ruiz
Posted
  • Investor
  • Anaheim, CA
  • Posts 242
  • Votes 80

All the funding options you mentioned are good to investigate. The trick it to get the cheapest money. I would call as many lender contacts as you know and can find to get feedback on what they can do for your situation. Not having income may be a barrier with some lenders. Other lenders will likely require an interest reserves fund while you complete the rehab, especially since it's your first BRRR investment and you have no income. Write up a good 1 page (succinctly and to the point) business plan for lenders to quickly review and decide.

When I started investing in 2010, our first HM lender we assumed would do our first deal was reluctant and backed out. We panicked, but it was a blessing in disguise. I dug up all the business cards from networking events and searched the internet and called every HM lender I could find. After talking to numerous lenders, I eventually discovered one in Carlsbad CA that said he had a lady doing deals in Palmdale with the same numbers I was underwriting. He was happy to do the deal and it went smooth. He also did the following 3 deals and my first commercial multifamily deal and helped get my investing career in high gear. 

The point of the matter is pick up the phone and call as many lenders as possible until you find the right one. 

To Your Success!

Post: 32 Unit Apartment Complex in Houston TX

Omar Ruiz
Posted
  • Investor
  • Anaheim, CA
  • Posts 242
  • Votes 80

Taylor, 

At that time - 2013, we had already made contact, communicated and built relationships with those investors. At that time one of our investors was previously buying condos locally in California and now the deals had dried up - no more cashflow. She had never invested out of state before, but now it made sense to her. When the deal was under contract it was all about following up with people and scheduling meetings to answer questions, sign subscription agreements and collect funds. 

I'm not in the MFH space, but I have close friends and contacts that have done well with it. The following are some resources that may help:

• Videos of Joe Lahore (friend): https://www.youtube.com/@ocfib...

• There's a local guy named Andy Teasley that specialized in mobile home. They have a private facebook page. He calls himself the "Wizard of Wobbly Houses" https://m.facebook.com/groups/...

The following are excellent books on underwriting deals:

•  by Ken McElroy - The ABCs of Real Estate Investing

• by Robert Beardsley - The Definitive Guide to Underwriting Multifamily Acquisitions

Post: 32 Unit Apartment Complex in Houston TX

Omar Ruiz
Posted
  • Investor
  • Anaheim, CA
  • Posts 242
  • Votes 80

NOI for last 2 months averaged $12,614. August was soft and pulls that average down to $11,838. Our mortgage is $6803.

Since initial capex we've done improvements to the stair rails about week ago and a couple of drain line improvements month prior, so all in at $825k would probable by more accurate. 

Post: 32 Unit Apartment Complex in Houston TX

Omar Ruiz
Posted
  • Investor
  • Anaheim, CA
  • Posts 242
  • Votes 80

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) commercial investment investment.

Purchase price: $650,000
Cash invested: $225,000

We purchased a 32 unit apartment complex just outside the down town area of Houston Texas - down the freeway from the Minute Maid Stadium. We had investors participate through a syndication structure (pool of investors). All units are 2 bedrooms with good square footage and layouts. We replaced all roofs and removed all gas lines and replaced with all electrical appliances. We improved interior kitchens and bathrooms as well as filled holes in the asphalt.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

We like multifamily and apartment complexes because of the cashflow they produce and the ability to hire staff to run operations. These type of investments are preferred by our investors because it allows them to share in the cashflow due to the price point and economies of scale.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I spent a good amount of time building a relationship with the broker. I consistently submitted offers, provided feedback and flew down to meet personally face-to-face and prove I was a serious buyer. The previous buyer couldn't perform, so the broker came back to us. He asked us to submit our highest and best offer, so we submitted the same original offer. The broker called us back saying "I can't believe he accepted your offer". It seems this was a motivated seller.

How did you finance this deal?

We originally purchased it with a loan from Wells Fargo bank. After the 5 year term came up, we refinanced it with a Freddie Mac loan at $1 million dollar valuation. The cash-out refinance allowed us the pay back all of our investors original capital invested and we all continue to get cash flow at an infinite rate of return.

How did you add value to the deal?

We improved the interiors at $3k-$4k per door with allowed us to increase rents. We replaced all the roofs and fixed deferred maintenance on the asphalt.

What was the outcome?

We increased the net operating income and cash flow, which allowed for the cash out refinance 5 years later when the Wells Fargo loan was due.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Working with the city of Houston to make improvements by removing the gas lines and fixing electrical was a challenge dealing with the city inspectors and the utility company.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Doug Solether at CREFCOA is a great loan broker to work with.

Post: 32 Unit Apartment Complex in Houston TX

Omar Ruiz
Posted
  • Investor
  • Anaheim, CA
  • Posts 242
  • Votes 80

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) commercial investment investment.

Purchase price: $650,000
Cash invested: $225,000

We purchased a 32 unit apartment complex just outside the down town area of Houston Texas - down the freeway from the Minute Maid Stadium. We had investors participate through a syndication structure (pool of investors). All units are 2 bedrooms with good square footage and layouts. We replaced all roofs and removed all gas lines and replaced with all electrical appliances. We improved interior kitchens and bathrooms as well as filled holes in the asphalt. We refinanced the property in 2018 from Wells Fargo to Freddie Mac, which allowed us to pull all our investors capital and have infinite rate or return.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

We like multifamily and apartment complexes because of the cashflow they produce and the ability to hire staff to run operations. These type of investments are preferred by our investors because it allows them to share in the cashflow due to the price point and economies of scale.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I spent a good amount of time building a relationship with the broker. I consistently submitted offers, provided feedback and flew down to meet personally face-to-face and prove I was a serious buyer. The previous buyer couldn't perform, so the broker came back to us. He asked us to submit our highest and best offer, so we submitted the same original offer. The broker called us back saying "I can't believe he accepted your offer". It seems this was a motivated seller.

How did you finance this deal?

We originally purchased it with a loan from Wells Fargo bank. After the 5 year term came up, we refinanced it with a Freddie Mac loan at $1 million dollar valuation. The cash-out refinance allowed us the pay back all of our investors original capital invested and we all continue to get cash flow at an infinite rate of return.

How did you add value to the deal?

We improved the interiors at $3k-$4k per door with allowed us to increase rents. We replaced all the roofs and fixed deferred maintenance on the asphalt.

What was the outcome?

We increased the net operating income and cash flow, which allowed for the cash out refinance 5 years later when the Wells Fargo loan was due.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Working with the city of Houston to make improvements by removing the gas lines and fixing electrical was a challenge dealing with the city inspectors and the utility company.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Doug Solether at CREFCOA is a great loan broker to work with.

Post: 104 Unit Apartment Complex

Omar Ruiz
Posted
  • Investor
  • Anaheim, CA
  • Posts 242
  • Votes 80

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) commercial investment investment.

Purchase price: $4,900,000
Cash invested: $2,100,000

We purchase a 104 unit apartment complex with other investors by syndication (pooling investors). The majority of investors were repeat participants and involved people in multiple states. We hired experienced local management company with a great team that's been successful at improving the tenant profile and increasing the income. With this purchase we've maintained a solid relationship with the broker that's shared pocket listings and given us info on properties before coming to market.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

We like multifamily and large apartment complexes because of the cashflow and economies of scale by having more units under less roofs. In one transaction we increased our portfolio by over 100 units; this would take years buying single family homes.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Created a relationship with the broker that gave him the confidence that we were the right buyers. We negotiated a good price after previous buyer failed to perform.

How did you finance this deal?

Agency debt (Freddie Mac) SBL with 4.2% rate; 75% LTV

How did you add value to the deal?

Our value-add plan is to upgrade the interiors at $4k-$7k per unit. This helped increase rents beyond our original projects to and additional $213/unit ($682 to $895/mo). At the same time we did exterior improvements to the driveways, siding and pool that's improved curb appeal.

What was the outcome?

Increased rents have improved cashflow to $13k/month. Improved net-operating-income has Increased value of the property. Better tenant profile and improved rent receivables.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

We had to train the onsite manager on our methods for tenant qualifications in beginning. After auditing tenant files for people that were evicted, we discovered she needed to improve her tenant qualification skills.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Doug Solether at CREFCOA was a great loan broker to work with.

Post: 104 Unit Apartment Complex

Omar Ruiz
Posted
  • Investor
  • Anaheim, CA
  • Posts 242
  • Votes 80

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) commercial investment investment.

Purchase price: $4,900,000
Cash invested: $2,100,000

We purchase a 104 unit apartment complex with other investors by syndication (pooling investors). The majority of investors were repeat participants and involved people in multiple states.

We hired experienced local management company with a great team that's been successful at improving the tenant profile and increasing the income.

With this purchase we've maintained a solid relationship with the broker that's shared pocket listings and given us info on properties before coming to market.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

We like multifamily and large apartment complexes because of the cashflow and economies of scale by having more units under less roofs. In one transaction we increased our portfolio by over 100 units; this would take years buying single family homes.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Created a relationship with the broker that gave him the confidence that we were the right buyers. We negotiated a good price after previous buyer failed to perform.

How did you finance this deal?

Agency debt (Freddie Mac) SBL with 4.2% rate; 75% LTV

How did you add value to the deal?

Our value-add plan is to upgrade the interiors at $4k-$7k per unit. This helped increase rents beyond our original projects to and additional $213/unit ($682 to $895/mo). At the same time we did exterior improvements to the driveways, siding and pool that's improved curb appeal.

What was the outcome?

Increased rents have improved cashflow to $13k/month. Improved net-operating-income has Increased value of the property. Better tenant profile and improved rent receivables.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

We had to train the onsite manager on our methods for tenant qualifications in beginning. After auditing tenant files for people that were evicted, we discovered she needed to improve her tenant qualification skills.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Doug Solether at CREFCOA was a great loan broker to work with.