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All Forum Posts by: John Chan

John Chan has started 39 posts and replied 130 times.

Post: HUD offer question, increasing chances of winning bid

John ChanPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 37

The listing agent would get both sides of the commission. It doesn't matter who is your buyer's agent, HUD is paying two commissions regardless. On HUDs, it doesn't matter if the listing agent gets both sides of the commission since the listing agent has no influence.

Post: HUD offer question, increasing chances of winning bid

John ChanPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 37

I bid on HUD properties in Cincinnati, OH everyday as an agent or buyer. If I'm purchasing for myself, I put the buyer's agent commission as $0. I can choose a high commission for myself but then my broker would just take a bigger cut. The listing agent commission is set at either 3% or $1,250, depending on the property.

Many buyer's agents usually take the default HUD commission, which is 3% or $1,250. However, if the price of the property is 10k, and HUD is only paying 3%, which is $300, then the buyer's agent really isn't making anything after his broker gets a cut. This is why some agents modify the commissions on lower price properties. On higher priced properties, some agents even put their commission under 3% if it can make the sale by meeting a HUD counter (minimum net price).

If you need more help or need to put an offer on a HUD in Ohio, feel free to private message me.

Post: HUD offer question, increasing chances of winning bid

John ChanPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 37

It doesn't matter. HUD is looking for the best NET offer. The buyer's agent can actually alter his commission. The higher the commission, the less that HUD nets. When HUD counters, they give you a minimum net price that they will take.

Post: Bank doesn't pay commission to agent/buyer?

John ChanPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 37

Here in the Cincinnati market, I've also ran into MLS listings where the bank is not paying a commission to buyer/agent. It's usually the smaller/non-nationwide lenders doing this, never the JP Morgans and Bank of Americas. It's completely legal as long as it is stated in the MLS remarks.

BTW 2.5% is already a rip-off commission for a foreclosure. I usually see sub-3 percent commissions on short sales and FSBOs.

Post: flipping reos

John ChanPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 37

For Fannie Mae properties, the restriction is that you cannot resell for more than 20% of your purchase price within 90 days. That's applicable in Ohio at least. After that, you can do whatever you want.

Post: How would you "Tie" this deal up?

John ChanPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 37

The mortgage debt relief act of 2007 may forgive him of the cancelled debt, depending on whether this was his primary residence and a few other factors. You may want to ask for legal counsel on this matter.

Post: closing on a 9 bay self serve car wash

John ChanPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 37

Sounds like a great deal Jarred! If you don't mind my asking, how did you run into this deal?

Post: Retire-on-Rentals?

John ChanPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 37

@Tim - I do see what you mean. For some people who make great income and want to make extra hands-off money, it's a good option.

I think the concept of selling turnkey properties is a great idea. The love the concept of the whole website, but from an investor's point of view, I wouldn't buy the properties because in my opinion they are overpriced.

Post: Retire-on-Rentals?

John ChanPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 37
Originally posted by Chris Torrey:
Joe,
Interestingly I was doing some research on the same company and ran across your post. I am looking around at some turn key companies and wanted to know if you had found anything else out about this company or any others. I could not help but think of the old adage "if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is". the deals they are putting together just seem to make too much sense and it makes me a little suspicious. if you find anything out let me know and I will do the same if you are interested.

Chris,

What do you mean by "Makes too much sense?"

Turn-key properties are usually over-priced from my experience. They buy the distressed property, rehab it to rentable condition, mark up the price, then sell it to an investor. You could make more money if you went through the whole process yourself.

Post: Rent to PotHeads Only?!

John ChanPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 172
  • Votes 37
Originally posted by Bryan Alenky:
you want to hear funny??? i was trying to decide if i should buy some goods to melt snow for a 10 unit building i have..then i realized none of them have jobs so they won't need to leave the apartments...

Haha Bryan, are all of them Sec 8?