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All Forum Posts by: Nyelle Johnson

Nyelle Johnson has started 7 posts and replied 37 times.

Post: Fund & Grow Financing

Nyelle JohnsonPosted
  • Philadelphia , PA
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Kim Ho:

So if i convert into cash instead of using the card, would it still be at 0%? Also how would i make monthly payments on these cards? For example, if i use a chase credit card, do i have to create an account with them to make payments? Do these credit cards have annual fees? Lastly after a year to renew, (if i chose to pay the service again) do they close my credit cards and get new ones so i can continue to get it at 0%? Any input would help thanks!!!

 Hi kim u can read my experience below 

Monthly payments using the cycling cc method

To pull the cash from the cards

Here’s how we planned to go about it

Create two completely separate businesses completely different names address phone numbers etc.

open up business bank accts for those businesses at two separate banks

Create a business PayPal acct attached to those bank Accts

Have business ABC write up a contract for let’s say a consultant job and bill via PayPal business XYZ for x amount of dollars (as u are able to PayPal much larger sums under a business acct with PayPal)

business XYZ receiving the bill pays the bill to business ABC PayPal acct with their cc from fund grow

Once the monies post to the business ABC PayPal acct he cashed it out to his business bank acct withdraw the funds and distribute amongst necessary parties (best of u do this with a trusted business partner spouse etc other than that someone may charge u for the service)

Now for tax purposes business XYZ request a refund and the release of monies back from business ABC to business XYZ will clear business ABC from any tax liability

Post: Fund & Grow Financing

Nyelle JohnsonPosted
  • Philadelphia , PA
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 7

I signed up for F&G (Fund &Grow) and I had an amazing experience that didn’t result in much funding due to personal reasons I’ll explain later but let me start at the beginning so like u all I’ve been doing research on F&G and I fell in the love with using business cc to find my real estate projects my only concern was cashing out but after seeking advice on the best ways to do that I also got a solution o planned to use for that too which will also come later 

I spoke to a rep in March of 2017 but didn’t pull the trigger until August 2018...first if you have any cc that has not been seasoned for 6 or more months they will tell u to wait the 6 months seasoning period which I was not informed about until after I paid the $3500 fee for myself and husband to get funded however they knew I’d have to wait that time out prior cause they had a copy of my credit report prior to me paying I started with them at 760 therefor I couldn’t start the funding process until December 

My husband had 5 ccreporting on his personalcredit report no business credit his score was 740  two he had got about 7 months in his name credit limit of $1k on one and $3k on the other he then was an authorized  user on the other 3 cards highest balance card being $8750. They also said bc heonly had two cards where he was primary he would need to develop his personal credit report with more cards in his name with him bn the primary so he had to start with a round of personal cc first at no extra charge they would apply for about 4 cc under his personal credit and once approved he’s have to wait the six month seasoning period to move forward with the business credit the initially applied for 

  • Chase – 0% Intro APR for the first 15 billing cycles on Purchases and balance transfers – Declined
  • Capital One – 0% intro APR for 15 billing cycles on purchases and balance transfers – Declined
  • Flagstar – 0% introductory APR for the first 15 billing cycles on purchases and for balances transferred within 465 days from account opening – $1000
  • Discover – 0% intro APR for 14 billing cycles on purchases and balance transfers – DECLINED
  • Wells Fargo – 0% Intro APR on purchases and balance transfers for 12 billing cycles. After that your variable APR will be 15.99% to 26.99%. Balance transfers made within 120 days qualify for the intro rate and fee – Pending 

Of course I was not happy with the results at the time but after attempting to negotiate the cards that declined him were saying he had too many inquiries which was our fault bc before going with fund grow we tried to get 0% cc on our own without having to pay $3500 

While going through this proces we found out that our religion which is Islam forbids the signing of contracts that involve interest rather up front future etc as the mere signing of the contract means u are agreeing to the interest see here if you’d like proof https://twitter.com/1MMeducation/status/953270714265632769

https://abdurrahman.org/2015/11/27/can-i-use-the-credit-card-if-i-duly-pay-the-bills-without-paying-interest-riba/

https://abdurrahman.org/2014/01/27/debitcards/

Therefore we contacted our agents as I was just about to get started bc my seasoning period was just about over and explain we could no longer go forward with the process due to religious reasons we DID NOT ask for a refund bc it was no fault of theirs however after a day or two I woke to an email from the director explaining that they normally wouldn’t refund it but she extended a refund with small cancellation fee as we had only started the actual process within the 60 day cancel period that I didn’t even knowthey had needless to say we we’re ecstatic and super grateful as our whole business model was to use 0% intersert cards and refi through a shariah complaint mortgage company and pay the cards off before the interest hit our  back up plan was to grasshop the balance to another 0% interst cc if the project went beyond the 0% period if we were not able to put a mortgagae on the house worst case we’d sell the house. 

To pull the cash from the cards my business credit consultant investor etc gave me this idea he does it for clients all the time he said 

Here’s how we planned to go about it

Create two completely separate businesses completely different names address phone numbers etc.

open up business bank accts for those businesses at two separate banks

Create a business PayPal acct attached to those bank Accts

Have business ABC write up a contract for let’s say a consultant job and bill via PayPal business XYZ for x amount of dollars (as u are able to PayPal much larger sums under a business acct with PayPal)

business XYZ receiving the bill pays the bill to business ABC PayPal acct with their cc from fund grow

Once the monies post to the business ABC PayPal acct he cashed it out to his business bank acct withdraw the funds and distribute amongst necessary parties (best of u do this with a trusted business partner spouse etc other than that someone may charge u for the service)

Now for tax purposes business XYZ request a refund and the release of monies back from business ABC to business XYZ will clear business ABC from any tax liability

Also we were going to use the cycling business credit which is to use one cc to pay the monthly bill on the other cc to keep our out of pocket cost low while the project was under way check out that concept here https://youtu.be/o13-tPEOhX0

If it wasn’t for my religious commitment I’d definite keep going with Fund grow the numbers my husband was getting wasn’t great but I understood the circumstances surrounding his situation I do believe I would have came out better and they also do three rounds of funding.

I hope it this makes sense. And may help

Post: How To: Cash out 1-4 unit Property

Nyelle JohnsonPosted
  • Philadelphia , PA
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 7

@Brian Garrett thank u now I guess my question is how do u go about getting a loan for your LLC without the LLC having any creditvestablish ...can u tell I'm a newbie...if your able to DM for further tips I'd appreciate it I'm a newbie but I learn quick so I won't b a bother

Post: How To: Cash out 1-4 unit Property

Nyelle JohnsonPosted
  • Philadelphia , PA
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 7

@Andrew Postell thank u for responding so quickly is it possible to DM me when u have a chance I have a few additional questions i tried to DM u but it keeps going black and taking me to the home page 

Post: How To: Cash out 1-4 unit Property

Nyelle JohnsonPosted
  • Philadelphia , PA
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 7

@Andrew Postell this is an amazing strategy I just purchased a home cash fixer upper in my name but I have an llc however it is new and I don’t have any credit built under my llc I myself have a 730 credit score is there any way to do this in my case?  

Post: Best way to borrow-LLC or personal?

Nyelle JohnsonPosted
  • Philadelphia , PA
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 7
@Chris Martin so what do your do to purchase up to 10 properties u set your own name at 3.5%-4% down only time I see those options is when purchasing as owner Occupied

Post: Best way to borrow-LLC or personal?

Nyelle JohnsonPosted
  • Philadelphia , PA
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 7
Hello guys I had the idea of purchasing a property as my personal residence but renting it out my realtor spooked me saying if the banks find out I’m not occupying the property they could sue me for mortgage fraud any thoughts on this

Post: LLC Property Affect Personal Home Purchase

Nyelle JohnsonPosted
  • Philadelphia , PA
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 7
Hey BP Community I am in the process of buying a new Home for myself and purchasing a investment property under an LLC with cash. Mentioned it to my loan officer and he’s saying that the property for the LLC may come up when the underwriters do the search. I close on the investment property next week Tuesday and my personal home the end of April. My debt to income ratio is already a concern do u think the LLC property will show in their database being as though it’s such a recent purchase.

Post: Investing Checklist A-Z

Nyelle JohnsonPosted
  • Philadelphia , PA
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 7
Hey BP Community I know there is a wealth of information out there and trust me I have been reading a lot and getting plenty good advice from BP and outside of BP. All the information is helpful but I feel like I’m all over the place. I have created an LLC partnership and soon to close on our first investment property. I know we need to build creditability and set ourselves apart from the Mom and pops shop build credit for our LLC etc. I know each real estate strategy has a different manual but we plan to buy two properties sell one and hold one. This is best for us being as though we are required to avoid interest. We figure we build our portfolio from the muscle and then go to investors to ask for a loan that support our terms. But that’s like letter M right now we are more at D but we didn’t go A-D more like B E A D wait we miss C please help lol.

Post: Financing via LLC structure

Nyelle JohnsonPosted
  • Philadelphia , PA
  • Posts 37
  • Votes 7
Shawnda Velador My partner and I are closing on a property next week. We are paying cash. We originally had the idea to do cosmetic repairs throughout the home over time then sell it but would like to speed the process up by refinancing the home to fund our next project. We have a unique hurdle to overcome as our religious obligations require us to keep away from interest and as u know all hard money loans have interest. Is it possible to get a hard money loan and just pay a flat return that will be a little more aggressive than the norm. Please help.