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All Forum Posts by: Nick S.

Nick S. has started 10 posts and replied 48 times.

Post: Seller financing: setup, taxes, and contingencies?

Nick S.Posted
  • Algonquin, IL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Daniel Dietz:
I understand what you are thinking, but in the long run it does not make much difference in the 'real world', on average.

My example I *think* is more what the range might be on what you are thinking. Right now I am dealing on buying some rentals that the owner ONLY wants to sell with 'seller financing' to spread out capital gains tax and to have an ongoing stream on income. He owns them free and clear. I will give an example of what we have been talking about so far.

4 Plex worth about 320K. I presented 3 options;

1) 300K @ 5.7% /30 Years with 10 year ballon if desired by him. $1556 month.
2) 320K @ 5% /30 years ...........same...............
3) 350K @ 4.15% /30 years ........... same.............

It comes down to what his cap ex tax rate is vs in ordinary income tax rate. He needs to talk to his accountant. I am *guessing* that in his case it will be only a few thousand different in taxes over 30 years IF he kept it that long. Where this *could* come into play in a bigger way is with someone that does NOT have much taxable income and they *might* be able to stay in the 0% capital tax bracket. For *most* sellers it is close to a wash, I think.

few questions from me regarding the 3 options example specifically regarding the #'s. how do you do the math to come up with

1) 1556/mo

2) the 3 different purchase price options (300, 320, 350)

3) the varying interest rates. i'm guessing the interest rate was calculated to keep the 1556/mo consistent?

thanks to anyone that can help. i'm attempting to structure my 1st seller financed deal and present options, but i'm struggling with how to come up with the numbers. i'm looking at a property that is worth about 100k in its present date and needs about 60k of work.
 

Post: help with understanding closing costs for sfr under contract (IL)

Nick S.Posted
  • Algonquin, IL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 8

@Zack Karp really appreciate the quick but thorough response. i've submitted numerous mortgage loan applications tonight. if you're open to connecting on wednesday. shoot me a pm. i'd like to decide on a lender by end of day wed.

as for the rehab, luckily my dad's a general contractor so we feel fairly confident that 35k in rehab is overbudgeting....hopefully

Post: help with understanding closing costs for sfr under contract (IL)

Nick S.Posted
  • Algonquin, IL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 8

hi everyone,

after 2 years, i finally got an sfr under contract. the 1st one i had to back out due to the home inspection and after a year of burnout, i've been taking advantage of these work from home times to find another.

i'll provide as much relevant numbers as possible. i also wouldn't mind a breakdown of this deal.

below are deal info and closing cost breakdown

purchase price: 185k in a really nice city in a very good school district, but the neighborhood is way under the median

repair: 35k

arv: 260-275k (my calculations were more conservative at 260)

average rent is: $2k, but i haven't yet decided whether to 2 year live in flip or brrrr. i'm leaning towards the 2 year live in flip so i can put down 10% and pay cash on the rehab

closing cost breakdown from initial lender who helped me with my preapproval. i plan to talk to a few lenders on wednesday

A: loan costs (application and lender fees): 1.3k

B: services you cannot shop for (appraisal fee, credit fee, other): 400

C: service you can shop for (this is where it gets really muddy for me): 4k

1) admin fee: 100

2) chain of title: 250

3) closing protection letter, electronic doc fee: 100

4) lender's endorsements (what the heck is this?): 350

5) lender's title insurance: 1.5k

6) settlement fee (what the heck is this?): 1.2k

7) title binder commitment, title search abstract, title update fee, wire transfer fee: 550

D: A+B+C= 5.7k

E, F, G (these i get): government fees, prepaids, escrow payment at closing. taxes are extremely high here in IL. they included a homeowner's insurance premium. should i shop for this myself? they estimated 133 a month

H: owner's title insurance (optional): 520 (should i be adding this?)

would appreciate any and all feedback soon to help me in my mortgage lender shopping conversations for wednesday

thanks!

Post: using county website - "estimated property value"

Nick S.Posted
  • Algonquin, IL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 8

hopefully i'm allowed to bump this thread, but looking for more opinions. thanks

Post: Whats your motivation in real estate?

Nick S.Posted
  • Algonquin, IL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Jessica Krueger:

@Nick S. "There are no rewards, if there are no risks" as they say. I think since your dent free, have good income and a fund that keeps growing its the perfect opportunity. I myself will be working on getting there before I really dive in further. Is your opportunity fund a savings? Any tips?

love that quote. my opportunity fund is in one of my high yield savings. i have separate retirement accounts (through work and ira), separate taxable accounts (stocks/index funds), separate emergency fund, and a separate opportunity fund for things i can use if i want to buy real estate, fund one of my side hustles, buy stocks/index funds if the market crashes, use for vacation, etc. i keep this fund separate from my emergency fund both in high yield savings accounts. i need my opportunity and emergency funds to be liquid so i don't mind only getting a 2.xx% rate. happy to discuss further as personal financing is one of my big passions. hope that helps.

Post: Whats your motivation in real estate?

Nick S.Posted
  • Algonquin, IL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 8

i'm still looking to buy my first property and take advantage of my dad being a general contractor. for me it's to learn. if i lose money, i'm ok with it because i've stalled for too long because i've been afraid to lose money. i've now gotten the courage to jump in because i'm in a much better spot financially having no debt, a nice income, and an opportunity fund that keeps growing. i've passed on so many opportunities in the past that i just want to learn. eventually i want to use this as a "passive" income stream while being able to flip as well. 

Post: using county website - "estimated property value"

Nick S.Posted
  • Algonquin, IL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 8

right, what i'll do is i'll look at the prices of the surrounding houses using zillow, but then i'll also type in the address on the county website and they provide an "estimated property value" of the specific house. as i said, it rarely matches what zillow's estimate is, but i'm wondering if this estimated property value is a better, more accurate value of the house.

Post: using county website - "estimated property value"

Nick S.Posted
  • Algonquin, IL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 8

hi all, as i'm weeding out properties, i started adding a new tactic to estimate property value besides zillow, which i know isn't always accurate. 

i noticed that when i go to the county site that the property is located in, there is an "estimated property value", which rarely matches what zillow/redfin say. it's under a section called "tax year 2018 assessed value"

what should i make of this? is this a better way to estimate value?

thanks!

Post: Painters and/or drywall guys In Chicago

Nick S.Posted
  • Algonquin, IL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 8

info sent, thanks!

Post: am i reaching here? analyzing deal

Nick S.Posted
  • Algonquin, IL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Aaron K.:

The 1% and 70% rule don't work everywhere and I hate that they have gotten the designation of "rule" because there are so many other factors.  70% is incredibly hard to find in most places unless you are dealing with the low price point homes under $100k.  Run your own comps I wouldn't trust the agent they are trying to make a sale, but it sounds like an appropriately priced house not an ideal candidate for a flip.  But it doesn't sound like a completely terrible rental depending on quality of the neighborhood and property taxes.  A flip generally will need a lot of work more along the lines of $25k plus otherwise you'll be competing against owner occupants.

really good point. unless i go to the boonies, i don't think i've yet to find a property that fits perfectly within these rules/guidelines. my own comps were based on surrounding areas for similar sq ft, br, ba, etc and comps are closer to 240k. property taxes should be around $6k. i haven't heard of that $25k+ generally means it could be a better flip.

after living in this for at least a year or two, i'd probably prioritize flipping this over renting, but open to both as exit strategies. i assume no appreciation will happen.