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All Forum Posts by: GL L.

GL L. has started 12 posts and replied 30 times.

Anybody gotten quotes from GR  and used their services  or backed away?   Their Fees and  closing cost estimate seam high.   1200 lender flat  fee , no matter price of loan,  and estimated closing cost  and other fees like appraisals  of at least  7,000 for 400k loan.  I did a  First American Closing cost calculation for my state and scenario  it worked out to be around 1400.    So wonder if anyone has had experience with them good or bad? 

Post: "Contingent on Financing" time limit?

GL L.Posted
  • Investor
  • TX
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Wayne Brooks:

Let me guess, dealing with that Texas contract again? It's simple.....read the purchase agreement.  Each state has a slightly different version.  Generally, ALL purchase contracts have a time limit on the financing contingency.  You think a seller would want to find out the day before closing, after they've moved out, that you can't get financing and you get your EM back, no harm no foul?  Here, if you put 40 days for financing, then the seller can cancel the contract any time after that, if the contingency is not removed.  The Buyer has up until 7 days prior to the scheduled closing to get their EM back, based on failure to obtain financing.

 Yes that the way it should be but according to my agent it is not.  You lose money no matter what if financing falls through.  I agree if seller want to back out after deadline for closing they can but  buyer should not be paying EM if it was contengent on finaincing. 

Post: "Contingent on Financing" time limit?

GL L.Posted
  • Investor
  • TX
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Kyle J.:

It's not a matter of finding an agent who "does not believe this". It comes down to what is actually written in the contact. 

Typically there is a date/deadline that you must remove a financing contingency (if there is one) or cancel the contract (unless both parties agree to extend it). For instance, in California, the standard contract language/timeline for a financing contingency is 21 days. However, in reality it could be any number of days that both parties agree/stipulate to in the contract. 

If you were to remove the financing contingency and then later try to get out of the contract because your financing fell through, then yes - you could be at risk of losing your earnest money deposit. 

 Thanks for the reply.  I definitely don't want to remove the contingentcy.  I think it was my agent trying to remove .   Any way I am working with somene who has more experiences in these areas. now.

Post: "Contingent on Financing" time limit?

GL L.Posted
  • Investor
  • TX
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

The time limit is usually the amount of days to close in your contract 45,60 etc.The banks today many times take much longer then these time limits so extensions are requested when approaching the deadline.If the buyer does not want to extend you would get your deposit back as your contract is written with a financing contingency.I did 3 sales a short time ago and in all 3 cases I had to grant an extension averaging 2 weeks. I had a sale 3 years ago that I had to extend over 6 weeks. Usually when you are that far along in the process most sellers don't want to start over because it would be another 60 days for a sale. The most common delay from the banks happen in the final stages of underwriting .Find a new agent who knows the process

 Thanks that is what I know as well  and have done.  Im  am not  sure why she wanted to add wording that would allow the seller to keep earnest money if bank bails.   I wanted it contingent on finacing which not what she wanted  to put in the cntract.  

Also my agent want to put in the contract  21-30 days for closing  and if bank did not come through  by then, she was wording  it  so that I would lose my  earnest money.  So much for "contengent on financing"  

Originally posted by @Greg H.:
Originally posted by @GL L.:
Originally posted by @Greg H.:

What ????????  Can anyone that reads the several helpful posts that I took the time to write in this thread come to the conclusion that I was judging her?

Ok I take that back!  How about dripping with  Condescension?  Is that better?  The option is just that an option and is negtionable.  I ahould be able to negtioniate my terms and not have them forced fed to me.  

Originally posted by @Greg H.:

Personally, I can't think of a deal where I haven't double and triple checked the numbers.  Maybe that's why I have been doing this 25 years

FYI- Something I did forget to mention.  There is a box on the contract that can be checked that credits your option fee back to you at closing.  So if you go through with the purchase , your option period costs you $0

If you must know (which you really shouldn't and has nothing to do with my question)  Is I have been waiting for a house to come on the market on that street for years!  And if you must know,  It will be used as a owner occupied, high end vacation rental investment not as a low income rental or a flip.  Please do not judge me or my knowledge just because I ask a question that should not require every detail of type of purchase.  Thanks

Yes I understand   I get the money back  if past terms of option fee.  But her terms of how  they get this option  money back  include :, "does not pass inspection past  the 14 day option deadline" and other crazy   terms  that she can come up with that only  benefit the seller. 

I also understand  I have the option to put zero  in the field but my real estate agent  all but told me she would not submit if less than $200.  Consequently She is not my agent anymore, for this and other reasons.   

Post: "Contingent on Financing" time limit?

GL L.Posted
  • Investor
  • TX
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 8

Hello,

I have an agent telling me  that there is a time limit for financing and if bank does not come through or bails then I lose my   earnest money?   I told her I was going to find an agent who does not believe this.   Anyone heard of such an agreement?  

@Greg H thanks for the info, but it is not that kind of a deal where I need to double and triple check #s or getting it rented out. 

Also I have every intention in putting a decent amount of earnest money to show good faith.  I just don't like being nickeled and dime to death  

I wish I was where you were at in you REI portfolio and business where money is no object.

So do knowledgable TX REI's from Bigger Pockets play this game that Texas RE agents have set up?

@Greg H.

  Why is paying necessary?   Isn't it expected that it will take an amount of time  to get inspection?   Why are you paying to have that time?