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All Forum Posts by: Stephen D.

Stephen D. has started 11 posts and replied 50 times.

Post: Newbie in Chicago!!

Stephen D.Posted
  • Investor
  • Lake Zurich, IL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 12

Welcome @Drew VanEe 

Post: 7 buildings 20 units 18 months thanks to BiggerPockets

Stephen D.Posted
  • Investor
  • Lake Zurich, IL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 12
Originally posted by @Ben Leybovich:

Guys - there is no magic to this.  Always remember the following 2 things:

One - you don't know what you don't know...in fact, you don't even know to ask!

This is not a commentary on anyone's intelligence, but on experience

Second - stumbling blocks and stepping stones look a lot alike...the problem is that most people learn which is which by stepping on one.  Unfortunately that's painful indeed.  The other way to negotiate this obstacle course is with the hindsight of - experience.  Experience ...!

Now - you can tell me that this is exactly what you are doing - buying units to gain experience.  No - you are playing the game.  You won't learn until you sit down and study the tapes of this game - what did they do, how did you respond, what can you do different next time, why bother...?

Investing is like wine - seasoning is key.  Seasoning = Perspective

I applaud action - this is the first step and one that most people never take.  But, it is not the most difficult!  Sitting quietly in the dark and taking stock of where we are is a lot harder - takes discipline.

In music, we have notes and we have rests.  Most people focus on the notes - I focus on the rests.  The rest, the quite silence, puts color to the notes...

This is a blog post in the making.  You guys mind if I reference this thread? 

 @Ben Leybovich

So true.  Can't wait to read the blog.

Post: Quit my full-time job

Stephen D.Posted
  • Investor
  • Lake Zurich, IL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 12

@John Blackman Congratulations on your achievement.  QQ - when did you realize your job was starting to interfere with your biz and how long before you decided to quit?

Post: Researching foreclosures efficiently - Holy Grail?

Stephen D.Posted
  • Investor
  • Lake Zurich, IL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 12

Thanks Joshua.  I'll give that a shot. 

Post: Researching foreclosures efficiently - Holy Grail?

Stephen D.Posted
  • Investor
  • Lake Zurich, IL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 12

In our county, the foreclosure amount (opening bid) for any property going up for auction is generally available after 5PM on the day before the auction.  So if the property is going up for auction on August 8th, the opening bid will be available on August 7th, after 5PM.  

The problem is that in many cases there are a lot of properties going up for auction that have a high starting bid amount (generally low or negative equity for my target market) and I have no interest in bidding on those properties but since I don't know the starting bid, I can't eliminate them from my research until the night before the auction.  Had I known the starting bid ahead of time, I would have eliminated them from my 'to research' list a long time ago.  Not to mention auctions that are cancelled or where the dates are changed but I don't think I can do a whole lot about those types of issues.  County offers a limited amount of documents for online viewing but the problem with the electronic research is that generally the information is incomplete and sometimes clearly wrong.  

So let's say all the stars are aligned and a property that I've researched ahead of time has a starting bid amount that's in my price range but then I want to have a look at the actual case before bidding so I run over to the Recorder's office to review (opens at 8:30AM) the full documentation (since I already know that the electronic search is incomplete) and then run over to the Sheriff's office for the auction which happens to start at 9AM.  So I basically have 15 minutes to scan the documentation.

So now the scary part - since the electronic search is incomplete and I barely had 15 mins to look at the actual documentation, I'm bidding on properties with limited information.  Understand that perfect access to information would be nice but not sure if that's a possibility.

Yes, I could go to the recorder's office, bite the bullet and do the research on all the properties ahead of time but have a full-time 9-5 job so can't do that either...

There has to be a better way to do this and am looking for ideas/suggestions on what others do to (a) eliminate properties with low equity from their research list and (b) have enough time to review the actual court documents before bidding on the auction while keeping a 9-5 job.

TIA

@Jonathan W. - One of them is close to me.  Will contact him tomorrow and see if I get a response.  Yes, we should try to meet.  Will send you a PM shortly.

Jonathan,

After replying to your post, I used that infamous search function.  Works pretty well.  Hahaha

Looking for the same.  Any recommendations would be appreciated.

Post: Discrepancy between judgement amount and auction start amount

Stephen D.Posted
  • Investor
  • Lake Zurich, IL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 12

@Jon: Thanks Jon.  Yes, it did draw 14 bidders to the auction :) and of course the auctioneer waited till the end to auction this piece of property.  Wanted to get rid of the easy auctions first.

@Joshua:  Yes, I'm in Illinois it went for $78K which was significantly higher than the expected amount.  BTW, we did have a bank attorney bidding at a different property.  Went all the way to $416K before the attorney stopped.  Property finally sold for $465K.  

The auction was really an educational experience for me. 

Post: Discrepancy between judgement amount and auction start amount

Stephen D.Posted
  • Investor
  • Lake Zurich, IL
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 12

I went to my local Sheriff's auction to bid on a property.  Before the auction I went to the court house to look at the foreclosure documents and noticed that the judgement amount for the property was $112K but the Sheriff's auction started at $46K.  Also checked for other liens on the property and there weren't any.  Is this normal?