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All Forum Posts by: Nelisa Lee

Nelisa Lee has started 1 posts and replied 50 times.

Post: Quickbooks for "Active" REI

Nelisa LeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 43
Quote from @Tristan Gardner:

BP Killers,

Who here uses Quickbooks to track income/expenses specifically for resi flip projects? Which plan do you have? Would you recommend it? Any other thoughts?


We've done hundreds of flips and have always used Quickbooks Online Plus. I like the projects feature available in Plus that Simple Start and Essentials doesn't have. But, if you're trying to stay more cost effective, I believe that the lower tiered subscriptions would still give you what you need as long as you set up the system with all the necessary accounts you need.

Post: Keeping track of portfolio financials

Nelisa LeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 43
Quote from @Max Emory:
Quote from @Nelisa Lee:
Quote from @Gregory Schwartz:

I self-manage and use Quickbooks. Personally, I don't like QB because it doesn't give me the info I want about cash flow. Mostly because it's set up to exclude things like mortgage principal payments and generally how it deals with capital expenses and deprecation. 

I also have a monthly tracker for that breaks down our NOI for the previous 12 months per property so that I can get a feel for how each property is performing. I do this on Google Sheets.

Lastly I track my net worth monthly. This is where the market value of my portfolio gets added to the money in the bank accounts, then I subtract the debt on the properties. I do this in Google Sheets and it gives me a birds eye view on how my investments are performing. 


Hey Gregory, I'm curious about why you mentioned Quickbooks excluding things like mortgage principal payments. I'm thinking if you create a simple journal entry to allocate the amount of interest paid, principal paydown and any lender required escrow, that this would help that limitation. I might be misunderstanding what you mean by that though. 

 Hey @Nelisa Lee, @Gregory Schwartz is referring to the profit & loss within QBO not showing the cash flow of each property since it does not factor in things like principal paydown, PITI escrow payments, CapEx, etc (those are balance sheet accounts).

However, the "statement of cash flows" report within QBO combines balance sheet accounts with data from the profit & loss to show cash flow (aka what happened to cash over the period).

And, an easier way to allocate monthly loan/mortgage payments is to split the transactions directly from the QBO bank feed rather than create journal entries. We try to limit the number of journal entries as much as possible as a general rule in bookkeeping. Keeps things cleaner. 

Although, REI does require a ton of journal entries compared to other industries haha.


That makes sense Max! I also try to limit JEs where I can but sometimes it's the easiest route to the same result just not as clean haha I'm wondering though if you use the bank feed to split those transactions, won't the cash balance show specific to that property? That's the only reason I choose JE to allocate the mortgage payments. Since we have a cash account for the business entity, not each individual property. 

Post: Investors who do their own Bookkeeping & Accounting

Nelisa LeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 43

I'm new to the Bigger Pockets online community although listening to one Bigger Pockets podcast episode is what kicked off my original investing journey many years ago! I've been a full-time real estate investor since 2019 and have flipped hundreds of houses and currently own a 50+ SFH rental portfolio (including short-term & long-term rentals).

I'm also a CPA and love the accounting aspects of real estate, probably more than the real estate investing itself! We've managed to keep all of our accounting and bookkeeping in-house so I'd love to connect with more investors and to especially hear from those investors who are doing their own bookkeeping and accounting and any of your current struggles. Happy to try and help with any questions or find solutions to make things simpler :) 

Post: Newcomer to Real Estate

Nelisa LeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 43

Welcome Gavin and congrats on starting your Real Estate journey! I'm a CPA and full time real estate investor, have flipped hundreds of properties and own a rental portfolio (both short term and long term). Happy to help answer any questions you have along the way. I think you found yourself in the right place - soak up as much knowledge as you can but don't forget to take action!

Post: BRRRR Vs Flip When And Why!!

Nelisa LeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 43
Quote from @Steven Garza:

Hello BP community,

I am currently about half way through my 1st Flip or what I thought i was going to flip. How can I determine lets say if i wanted to rent out this property using the BRRRR method rather than just flipping it? Its a condo in Scottsdale AZ. Any and all help is appreciated.

Thank you.


First off, congrats on making it half way through your first flip!

Agree with all the points Ty has already made above as well. I would also say it depends on your goals and what your business currently needs. Do you need more quick capital? Can you afford to hold onto the property even if it sits vacant? Even if you BRRRR it, you might not get as much out of it as you could flipping it. I'm not familiar with the Scottsdale rental or retail market so that might also impact your decision. There's no right or wrong answer here and will highly depend on your current situation. There are properties I wished I kept but needed to sell at the time, (especially in the beginning of my investing career) and vice versa. If it was my first, I personally would flip it. Focus on building up more capital before holding onto rentals even if you BRRRR them out but every investor is different!

Post: Keeping track of portfolio financials

Nelisa LeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 43
Quote from @Gregory Schwartz:

@Nelisa Lee That is a good question. The way my bookkeeper has it set up now is for my CPA more than it is for me. I don't change anything because I don't want to screw up their system that so far has done a good job of keeping me out of trouble with the IRS haha 


 haha I gotcha!

Post: Tax Planning & Accounting

Nelisa LeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 43
Quote from @Kevin Pinkard:

Hello all, 

I am looking for a tax (guy or gal) to help me plan for the future with real estate investing in the Jacksonville area.  Any assistance will be greatly appreciated!!


I'd recommend Matt Lents for this! He's local to Jax and an investor himself so he would definitely be a great person to connect with. https://www.taxadvantage.org/

Post: Fix/flip tracking app/software for a team

Nelisa LeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 43

We also have a relatively small team. We have REISift as a CRM and use what's referred to as "Siftline boards" to create flows for different teams members (i.e. lead management, acquisitions, transaction coordination, etc.) and automated tasks are set up depending on where the property falls on the Siftline board. For all of our renovation projects, we use slack for communication.

Post: Keeping track of portfolio financials

Nelisa LeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 43
Quote from @Gregory Schwartz:

I self-manage and use Quickbooks. Personally, I don't like QB because it doesn't give me the info I want about cash flow. Mostly because it's set up to exclude things like mortgage principal payments and generally how it deals with capital expenses and deprecation. 

I also have a monthly tracker for that breaks down our NOI for the previous 12 months per property so that I can get a feel for how each property is performing. I do this on Google Sheets.

Lastly I track my net worth monthly. This is where the market value of my portfolio gets added to the money in the bank accounts, then I subtract the debt on the properties. I do this in Google Sheets and it gives me a birds eye view on how my investments are performing. 


Hey Gregory, I'm curious about why you mentioned Quickbooks excluding things like mortgage principal payments. I'm thinking if you create a simple journal entry to allocate the amount of interest paid, principal paydown and any lender required escrow, that this would help that limitation. I might be misunderstanding what you mean by that though. 

Post: Quickbooks Online … Class vs Customer

Nelisa LeePosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 43

Hey David, this is a great point! As a Quickbooks ProAdvisor, I spend a lot of time in the system. Based on my understanding of the Customer functionality in Quickbooks, I agree that for real estate investors who might want a more cost effective option can utilize the Customer features (available in the Simple Start and Essentials version) instead of classes.

Since reports are able to be displayed at a Customer level, you would be able to run individual reports for specific properties as well as whole company reports broken down by property.