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All Forum Posts by: Nancy P.

Nancy P. has started 8 posts and replied 319 times.

Post: Tenant threatens to withhold rent?

Nancy P.Posted
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 348

HOLY F*(^ING COW!  David,  I hope you are OK!  That looks really painful.  How long do they expect your recovery to take?   The dogs need to be put down,  not just removed.  PLEASE call animal control, the police, anybody who can help!

Post: QOTW: If you've bought a property in 2022, how did you find it?

Nancy P.Posted
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 348

Current tenant was friendly with a neighbor.  When neighbor said he was going to sell due to job transfer,  tenant said "I might be able to save you the Realtor's fees"  and texted us.  We paid cash.

Post: Tenant threatens to withhold rent?

Nancy P.Posted
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 348

I just want to address your OP where you said  his threatening to not pay rent "did not sit right".  Please let that go.  Men who feel their tiny daughters are in danger say whatever it takes to make him feel his child is safe again.   I'm shocked at the eviction laws currently in place.  I'd at least call Animal Control.  Maybe they can get rid of the dog where you can't, or cite them for not monitoring the dog well.  

Post: STR Neighbor Complaints

Nancy P.Posted
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 348

On a tangent...never believe a realtor who says "nobody owns that".  Somebody owns it.  Always.

My city has banned STR, but I don't know that I could ever do it again. Did it years ago in Park City, Utah, a ski resort, Internet was so new you used a management company that advertised in magazines. (30 years ago). Maybe it was just the ski/vacation mentality but guests destroyed EVERYTHING and it wasn't as easy to chargeback as you seem to say it is now. This has an open stairwell/courtyard concept. Twice had guests puke over the railing down the stairwell--$500 fine both times, as somebody had to get on a ladder ON STAIRS to reach some of it. TV stolen. Chair thrown to the ground from the 4th floor. Dishes broken clearly just for fun. Sheets set on fire leading to building evacuation. The last straw--we put in new carpet and the VERY NEXT GUEST took the fireplace poker, heated it up, and branded his name into the carpet. $1000 in carpet (only 600 s.f., again, 30 years ago) and we had to take him to court. Judge sided with him that he only destroyed a small bit of carpet, he had to pay our court fees plus $100. It took a year to go to court and we were told not to replace the carpet, we needed to be able to show it. Carpet was no longer available. (That was on us, we should have at least gone and got some more matching carpet.) The day after the judgement we moved to LTR and then sold it because the condo board president was insane.

Quote from @Kristina Anderson:

Am I the only one who continues to be upset that purchase price of the business doesn’t reflect that the business isn’t viable at that price? Value add to me is adding a 3rd bedroom, updating the kitchen, not doubling the rent x2. If you bought a restaurant and were told “it works! Just cut salaries in half” you’d say “uh, then it doesn’t work”. Our strategy is to buy based on current rents. Yes, raising 50 a month or so, fine. But when we see properties that sit at the .25% “rule” we don’t even put an offer in. We investors are part of the reason we are seeing so much inflation. And let’s get honest. Most of us don’t own in fancy communities where a family might have resources to pay more. No. We are doing this in C and D areas. We think “well we have to to make it work!” But what if we simply didn’t buy an underperforming property in the first place? I’ll say keep the grandma if you buy. Increase her 50 or so. Be a kind landlord. If that means you can’t afford to eat, then maybe this property isn’t for you.


 Amen and Amen.  We are in class A area.  We are raising rents to cover increased property taxes, and that's IT.  $25 a month, $50 for one because the city it is in decided landlords have to pay the trash bill and the tenants realize we are going to transfer that $17 a month BACK to them.  One tenant actually called me up crying, when she saw the notice for $25 increase she thought it was a typo and I meant $250 (From $1350 current rent.)  Because people ARE doing that,  and they ARE part of the problem.  With fifteen properties we COULD be making at least another $1500 a month,  probably closer to twice that.  But I'm a firm believer in Mark 8:6--"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world if he loses his soul?"  My mom was a widow with seven kids.  People came together and helped us.  Groceries on our porch.  An uncle who farmed got an extra cow to keep us in milk.  Clothing hand me downs.  Doctor never billed my mom again once my dad died for normal visits, vaccinations.  "We'll mail you the bill".  But never did.  Shoe salesman sold to us at cost. Grocer gave us food that was imperfect but still edible--what now you find in the "bargain bin" at Meijer.   We all grew up and went to college (on full scholarships) and became taxpayers.  Isn't that the IDEAL outcome?  But we could very well have ended up in the welfare cycle.  The DIFFERENCE was people willing to help.  And we all seven of us feel obligated to pay it forward. (well, six, one sister has died.)  We have tenants who were 80 when they moved in,  we have not raised their rent in six years, although we told them last year we have to this year.  We've gone from just above breakeven to just below.  But they live in a special building, completely handicapped accessible, and others are paying $1895 now for what they get for $1400.  We're bumping them to $1450.  They used to be our neighbors so there is a relationship there.  And they have six kids,  if necessary I would expect them to help--they are all middle class people.  One of them said two years ago "It's basically like you give them $300 a month (as market rate was $1700 then.)  I was like "And I'm OK with that."  We find it more rewarding than giving to most charities.  So OP,  I would say research SENIOR ONLY Section 8 properties,  the wait list for them is not so long, as well as other charities/kids pitching in/roommate.  And thank you for willing to do the kind thing.  

Post: Where do you buy appliances?

Nancy P.Posted
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 348

Normally Lowes or HD.  However,  in the last year we generally end up at Sears Outlet, now called American Freight, because of wait times/supply chain issues.  I think we've bought six appliances during the pandemic from them.  They are NOT cheaper, though, at least not recently.  It was more scratch and dent with Sears, with AF it's "new but no packaging" and you have to make sure you're getting everything that would have come with new.  Just this week we bought a DW.  Lowe's had the same one for $749 but six weeks at least until delivered.  AF had it for $775 but claimed retail was $999.  I could not find it listed retail any higher than the $749 Lowe's had.  But I'm not asking my tenant to wait six weeks for a dw, and the current one was 18 years old, so not going to fix it either.  So I'm glad they are there for "buy it now" inventory, but it's not a money saver.

Post: Hot water heater replacement estimate

Nancy P.Posted
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 348

I paid $1200 for one installed in December 2021,  Chicago burbs.  Same guy does charge more for hauling down or up stairs, or for tight placement.  Most I ever paid him was $1600.  He is a licensed  plumber.

Post: So confused on how to proceed on this tenants

Nancy P.Posted
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 329
  • Votes 348

I've had several tenants like this.  The lease states that it is JOINT AND SEVERAL, so both are responsible for all of the rent.  It's not uncommon for people just moving in together to break up. IF that happens, don't let #1 leave, make  #2 leave or make them both leave.  (I made that mistake and am about to serve notice on the guy who stayed behind.)  Also, don't assume they aren't a couple just because they are LEGALLY single.  That's most people anymore.  But guy #1 is in good shape, so I'd take them, with a double security deposit.  I have no sympathy for her previous landlord who didn't get one.  None.

Just wanted to say Zillow never DID respond to my emails, or refund my money.