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All Forum Posts by: Tim Trumble

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Post: Real Estate Agent Familiar with NACA Process

Tim TrumblePosted
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 26

Thank you Kristopher Fraley! You know first hand that what I (and everyone else at NACA) do is a true passion for us.

For a lot of us like me, it started with the Save the Dream tours and helping people keep their homes after the Great Recession hit. In a lot of ways being "everywhere on the internet" and helping people who what to buy a home through NACA is the most fun part of my job.

I was certainly happy to be a part of your journey to home ownership, and I'm very happy that you have become part of our mission. You don't give yourself enough credit for the outstanding personal strides you made leading up to and since becoming a homeowner.

I'm also grateful for the support and backup I get from you, Rashad and Pratik, especially since I'm back on the road a lot for the Achieve the Dream tours.

Post: Real Estate Agent Familiar with NACA Process

Tim TrumblePosted
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 26

Hello Shadonna N.,

To be specific, the rule states that you may not have an ownership interest in any other property and buy through NACA. Therefore, even properties in an LLC would disqualify you. Also, whether it is a single family or a four-family property is not a factor.

Also, the three-year rule only prohibits you from using the NACA program more often than once every three years.

I hope that clarifies things for you a bit.

Tim Trumble

Online Operations, NACA

Post: Funding a fourplex without ruining the deal

Tim TrumblePosted
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 26

Terre B., I'm not sure why, but your post has several inaccuracies in it, and the general tone seems more as if your purpose is to discredit NACA more than anything else.

Your statement about "$15K for closing costs" is completely inaccurate. All closing costs on a NACA loan are in fact paid by the bank, either BOA or Citi. You do need a minimum amount of funds to purchase a home with the NACA Mortgage. The Minimum Required Funds ("MRF") are funds you must have available to pay costs associated with the purchase of the property, pre-paid expenses at closing and a reserve for costs once you close. The MRF for the NACA Mortgage is much lower than any other mortgage since the lender pays thousands of dollars in closing costs and there is no down payment requirement.


Also, the statement "you must put the difference between what your rent is, and your estimated housing PITI payment into a savings account for that as well. For a year. Over and above the reserve/closing requirement" is also false. If you are seeking a mortgage payment that is more than your present rent, NACA does require that you show that you can afford to make the larger payment each month without fail by saving the difference each month for a minimum of three months, which we call Payment Shock Savings ("PSS"). The PSS is not in addition to the MRF, but in fact can be counted toward saving for the MRF.

Again you have a misleading statement with "I have a 750 credit score, and when I questioned her on the time frame, she estimated it would be two years before I would receive "permission papers" to buy a home through NACA". Credit scores are not a factor in the NACA program whatsoever. NACA is a character-based lending program that reviews your past two years of financial history to determine how much you can legitimately afford and demonstrates that you can make that payment each and every month without fail for the life of the loan.

Then only ways that it would take two years to become NACA qualified (i.e. "permission papers") would be if you either exited a Chapter 7 bankruptcy yesterday or had literally no financial history of any sort until yesterday. No documents are ever lost in the NACA system since we use an electronic document system in which submitted documents are automatically routed to the member's file. As such, there are literally no physical documents to lose. Additionally, requests to resubmit documents are commonplace in any mortgage program, not just NACA, typically to make it faster and easier for the counselor/loan officer to locate specific documents needed rather than sorting through the dozens of pages in the file.

"He is on his 5th loan officer, starting over each time, since no one has a clue what the previous one had done. He also said that they do a hard pull on his credit each time documents are uploaded, or he gets a new LO, and his credit is now 40 points lower than when he started" are also simply gross inaccuracies.

NACA Mortgage Counselors are on a performance-based pay plan just like any other Mortgage Loan Officer. The typical NACA Counselor makes between $60,000 and $100,000 per year based on their productivity. The average loan officer in the US made $64,000 in 2017, making NACAs compensation plan extremely competitive. It's an excellent opportunity to do well while doing good.

The fact is that the NACA program's below market fixed interest rate, with the ability to buy the rate down to nearly zero, with no down payment, no closing costs and no PMI makes it a truly unbeatable plan, even compared to the CHFA program. And unlike CHFA, the NACA program has no income limits.

The reality behind the NACA program is that it works in Denver and across the country.

Tim Trumble

Online Operations, NACA

Hello Jennifer Ouch,

The lien isn't as big an obstacle as you may think it is. It exists mainly to enforce the owner-occupancy requirement. If you at some point want to refinance, a lien release is easily obtained from the NACA Member Assistance Program (MAP) department.

Tim Trumble

Online Operations, NACA

Post: Want to buy my first property and continue from there

Tim TrumblePosted
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 26

@Stephen Pereira From what you describe, you may well be a good candidate for the NACA program, even though you have had multiple employers. I suggest you go to our website and sign up for a workshop.

Tim Trumble

Online Operations, NACA

Post: SFH + SFH or House Hack - 1st Time Home Buyer

Tim TrumblePosted
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 26

Hello DMac7

Actually, NACA is still a possibility for you in Option 2.  Just as with FHA, you may purchase up to a four unit property through NACA, but are required to live in one of the units as long as you have the NACA loan.

Tim Trumble

Online Operations, NACA

Post: Real Estate Agent Familiar with NACA Process

Tim TrumblePosted
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 26

Hello @Ana Garrido,

Based on what you have written, you will not be able to use the NACA program. NACA first and foremost is an advocacy organization, committed to neighborhood stabilization through owner occupancy. We require that not only do you live in the home purchased through the NACA program, but that you remain there for a minimum of three years before selling. Furthermore, the LLC and partnership you describe would also be prohibited since it is also contrary to our goals.

Tim Trumble

Online Operations, NACA

Post: Real Estate Agent Familiar with NACA Process

Tim TrumblePosted
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 26

Hello ,

Unfortunately, is reading way to much into the owner occupancy requirement of the NACA program. The requirement and the lien exist for the purpose of preventing property investors from abusing the NACA program. You are absolutely correct that we are focused on long-term ownership, as long as the home is appropriate for you, as part of our objective of community stabilization.

With regard to your question of "what happens if you have a job change, your family grows (added children, etc.), you have a job transfer, etc.", you are free to sell or refinance after three years of ownership. This of course removes the lien since the owner occupancy requirement and thus the lien exist for the duration of the time you have the NACA loan.

We will not accept a $25,000 payment to remove the lien just so the home can be turned into a rental property.  This would violate the very purpose of the occupancy requirement and lien.

In the case of unforeseen circumstances, simply get in touch with us and let us know the situation and how you wish to proceed, along with information to support the case.  The occupancy requirement and lien are a policy designed to support our mission, not a jail sentence.  When and where warranted our CEO or National Director of Underwriting can grant a waiver on a case by case basis.

Tim Trumble

Online Operations, NACA

Post: Helping my Parents Not Become Homeless

Tim TrumblePosted
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 26

Hello Cara,

We're glad Georgette mentioned us.  We would be happy to work with your parents on buying a new home.  Also,

George's idea of a two family property/duplex could also be a very good possibility that we could work with you on.

Tim Trumble

Online Operations, NACA

Post: FHA of NACA financing for first househack

Tim TrumblePosted
  • Charlotte, NC
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 26

While you would save tens of thousands of dollars, even over an FHA loan, strict adherence to our rules is a must. As for the comment "NACA doesn't check to make sure that you are living in the property", this is true. However, the BANK will find out if you move out of the property and will report it to us. You are in fact required to live in the property for the entire time you have the NACA loan. The only way to avoid the owner occupancy rule and the $25,000 lien we place on the property to enforce it is to either sell or refinance the home, which you may not do for the first five years.

The NACA program is strictly for the purchase of your primary place of residence. If you are planning to try to "get around" some of the requirements of the NACA program, then unfortunately, I have to suggest that you not use our program.

Tim Trumble

Online Operations, NACA