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All Forum Posts by: Michael Sokolski

Michael Sokolski has started 17 posts and replied 64 times.

Post: Advice on possible 1st deal

Michael SokolskiPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Stony Brook, NY
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 5

I guess this is all part of the learning process. I've tried learning about the 50% rule and everyone's take on it and now my head is spinning. I'll sit down tonight and really work on figuring it out.

Again, it's hard to determine how much is needed in repair and how long the life tenant will live but when I see a home for sale on Long Island for this price, I can't help to not get excited.

I know this much from reading the forums, if the numbers don't add up, don't do it. I'm just having trouble seeing how this isn't a decent investment. I'll dedicate some time tonight trying to figure it out.

Thanks.

Post: Advice on possible 1st deal

Michael SokolskiPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Stony Brook, NY
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 5

Just looked at the pictures again. the outside looks fine and I don't even think it needs new siding.

Post: Advice on possible 1st deal

Michael SokolskiPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Stony Brook, NY
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by Frank Adams:
I wouldn't walk down the street to look at this "deal"

Fire is one of the hardest repairs, as far as getting an accurate estimate of what went on underneath. And of course you have the water damage on top of that.

One unit is UNRENTABLE, and what happens if she lives to be 106?!!! The other unit is $1300-$1400/month. I can easily see your repair costs exceeding $150K, as fire damage also often requires EVERYTHING in a house to be brought up to CURRENT CODE.

frank

I should have added that I've seen some pictures. Structurally, it looks ok. I would be doing some of the work myself. I would get someone to do the roof and siding. The rest I would be involved in.

I ran some numbers and after repair, I would just about break even renting the 1 apartment. I’ve estimated loan payment, taxes, and insurance to be $16,117.64 per year. Renting just the one unit for $1300/month, which would give me an annual income of $15,600? This would be my first REI and I would also be creating an LLC. The $518 difference each year would be offset by depreciation and other business write-offs and tax benefits.

Assuming I would rent the 1 BR for $950/month after she passes, my annual income would jump to $27,000 with all expenses being the same. That would give me a positive cash flow of $10,882.36 per year. Since I’ll be doing most of the updates now, maintenance for the first 10 years should be minimal.

Now, like I said, I haven’t physically seen it yet. I’ve only seen pictures. If it costs me $50,000 - $75,000 in repair costs, I could handle that. Of course, repair costs could skyrocket if there are problems that have not been mentioned. That would be determined by a visit and a home inspection.

Given my description above, isn’t it worth a visit?

Post: Advice on possible 1st deal

Michael SokolskiPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Stony Brook, NY
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 5

I came across a possibilty I saw and am currenlty waiting on some info from my real estate agent. Just looking to run this one by you guys.

Legal 2 family with Fire damage upstairs and "extensive" water damage. (According to the listing agent, it's not bad but I haven't see it yet).

Waiting on property taxes but it's around $6,000 - $7,000 per year.

The house has a Life Estate tenant where the woman lives in the bottom apartment until she passes away Rent Free. She is 86. Lots of Section 8 in the area.

They are only accepting cash offers becuase the house is not mortgagable in it's present condition. Tenant is living in Florida until repairs are done in her apartment by the new owner.

There is one offer for $135,000. My agent sold a 2 family on the same street for $292,000 four weeks ago. I can't estimate the repair costs site unseen.

1st floor - 1 Bedroom - 1 bath (Life Estate Tenant)
2nd floor - 2 Bedroom - 1 bath (Will be able to rent this one)

Rents in this town for a 2 BR go for about $1300 - $1400. I'm waiting on more details but just wanted to get some thoughts for now.

Thanks all!

Post: Unusual Situation -- advice would be most appreciated

Michael SokolskiPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Stony Brook, NY
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 5

Did you consider buying a 2 family - living in one while renting the other?

Post: ....and we are in

Michael SokolskiPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Stony Brook, NY
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by Doug Henson:
Short term rentals. there is a property management group on site that handles the short term rentals. They do take 45% of the rental income but they handle everything four us. This makes it a hands off operation for us. Again, for a first venture I thought this best.


That's great! 45% is a nice chunk out of your bottom line though. Does the rental market slow down in the winter? If you're making money, you made the right move.

Stories like this motivate me. I feel like I'm standing at the edge of the diving board going over all the things that can go wrong. I guess I have to learn as much as I can to minimize risk and jump!

Post: ....and we are in

Michael SokolskiPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Stony Brook, NY
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 5

Do you rent it to vacationers on a weekly basis or long term residents?

Post: Need help with first steps

Michael SokolskiPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Stony Brook, NY
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 5

I appreciate the replies but the purpose of my post was to ask experienced investors:

If you had $50,000 and you wanted to start investing in real estate today, knowing what you know now, how would you begin (If your goal was to buy, rent, and hold for the long term)?

Post: Need help with first steps

Michael SokolskiPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Stony Brook, NY
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by Michael Rossi:
The key to operating rentals is to buy at a deep enough discount to market value that the properties will cash flow (using real world expenses). So, I would begin by finding a property at a huge discount (that will cash flow) and buying it.

If you don't KNOW market values in your area yet, then I would get out of the house and look at 100 or more houses for sale in your target market.

Finally, you should certainly be making friends with the other successful investors in your area.

Good Luck,

Mike




Thanks, Mike. One thing I did forget to mention was that the market in my area isn't possible to cash flow. On Long Island, just the taxes alone are enough to put you in the red so I'm looking to invest elsewhere. Most likely out of state.

Post: Need help with first steps

Michael SokolskiPosted
  • Homeowner
  • Stony Brook, NY
  • Posts 69
  • Votes 5

At this point, I think I've gotten all I can from reading and must start "doing" in order to begin life in REI. I'm looking for a little advice on where to start. I'm lucky enough to have saved money and I don't think I need to get involved with Wholesaling, shortsales, etc to raise money. I have $50,000 to get started.

Honestly, I'm scared. I guess that's normal but with my own mortgage, wife, and kids, I have enough worries. My goal is to buy rental properties for long term investments that will pay for themselves and cash flow monthly for me.

I'm just looking for some advice from experienced investors. If you had $50,000 and you wanted to start investing in real estate, knowing what you know now, how would you begin?