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All Forum Posts by: Mary Ann Rocco

Mary Ann Rocco has started 4 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: short sale & commisions

Mary Ann RoccoPosted
  • Huntington Beach, CA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by Jon Holdman:
I strongly suspect a better question is what commissions are the sellers/lenders paying? I suspect it is 5%.


Before I go on with more details on my situation I need to first understand this part of the equation. If a seller is broke and a bank is taking a hit on a loan, how is either of them paying a commission? Say I make an offer of 100,000 on a short sale where loan is $200,000. Wouldn't the commisions for the agents come out of the 100,000 that I'm putting into the pot? Or does the bank increase their 100K loss even further by throwing in towards agent commisions? I need to get this part down before I go to the mattresses!

PS- I appreciate all of your responses so far!

Post: short sale & commisions

Mary Ann RoccoPosted
  • Huntington Beach, CA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 0

I'm looking for better understanding about short sales and real estate commissions. I apologize for the length of this post.

The short sale has not been approved because of the 2nd with Chase, but I want to ignore the issue of the 2nd for now. I’m trying to understand certain numbers.

The property is in California and I’m the buyer. I signed a contract saying I would buy a house for 720,000 plus an additional out of pocket expense of 20,000 towards the second and 1% in commissions to the agents and another 1% to the negotiator which is an additional 14,400. I knew the agents were receiving a total of 5% commissions but as a first time home buyer I didn’t think to ask my agent where the other 4% was coming from.

The outstanding loan balance on the 1st (GMAC) is 656,000. The outstanding loan balance on the 2nd (Chase) is 175,000. The issue of the 2nd is a whole other post so I won’t go into detail on that. I have a copy of the GMAC short sale letter. It outlines the following numbers:

We agree to accept proceeds generated by 720,000. Seller to net zero. Net proceeds to GMAC will be no less than 653,000. Yes, that’s only $3,000 short.

It goes on to list all of the closing costs approved (not to exceed)
Taxes title, etc. = 8,515
6% agent commissions = 43,200
Payoff towards second = 15,000

I’m trying to understand the issue of the 6% agent commissions and that fact that I’m paying that on top of the amount owed to the bank. Something about this seems 'off' to me. I was told they moved the numbers around to make this short sale go through more easily. I realize that I signed a contract and the bottom line is what it is, regardless of how it’s ultimately divided, but is this normal practice in how the numbers work? I was under the impression that in a short sale, the banks would kick a certain percent back towards commissions. Since the total loan is only 656,000 GMAC is not really paying anything towards the commissions, I am. My agent thinks this is fine, and I trust my agent, but I can’t let go of this nagging feeling that something’s not right, but I know nothing about the the real estate industry. I feel deceived by how the contract was worded and how the numbers are playing out. Can anyone give me their opinion on this situation? Is this SOP in short sale world?

Mary