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All Forum Posts by: Mike S.

Mike S. has started 5 posts and replied 44 times.

@Matt J. Thanks for asking this question. I, too, have been especially curious about the Walla Walla market. It's such a great town and seems to be on a strong trajectory on many levels.

@Tony Wooldridge Congrats--between your flips, rental, and the meetups, it sounds like you're cooking up some great things. I've enjoyed your blogs and you did a beautiful job with that flip you posted about. Thanks for sharing your insights and your enthusiasm for Walla Walla. It sounds like you self-manage your rental, but do you have any recommendations for property managers in the area? And, for that matter, an investor-friendly realtor? Thanks in advance, Tony!

John, I appreciate your vision for that property and your ability to see potential. I can't speak to the financial viability of the rental model you propose, but it's definitely worth carefully considering the cost of restoring that cabin. Despite its small size, the associated expenses--especially if you hope to add in a loft, address sewer/septic needs, and bring it up to code--may be significant. Would you be doing the work yourself or hiring it out? One's tolerance--and desire--to navigate some of these issues stands to vary greatly based on whether it's a true labor of love or something you hope to hire out free of worries.

With the cabin--before diving too deep into financial calculations--it would be good to get a clear assessment of its condition. Are there any logs that are rotten or insect-infested (this is can be especially common with the sill--i.e. bottom--logs)? Can you detect areas that have sustained damage from moisture over time? What's the condition of the chinking--and has it succeed in keeping moisture out of the house or simply channeled moisture onto the logs? What's the shape of the foundation? Etc.

If you're interested in learning more about the project you might have on your hands, I recommend The Classic Hewn-Log House: A Step-by-Step Guide to Building and Restoring by Charles McRaven. Although the book focuses on, as the title suggests, hewn log homes, much of its content stands to be incredibly helpful with a cabin such as the one in your photograph. Even if you don't plan to do any of the work yourself, it provides a quick and accessible overview of the issues you can anticipate needing to address. I hope this helps--and best of luck with your decision.

@Dave Passey Thanks so much for your insights. I'm glad you're able to at least retain your current tenant while so many other properties in town go vacant. Given this, it's understandable that a lot of these rentals are now being sold. I've definitely seen quite a few homes that are listed as being both for sale and available to rent . . . and seemingly have no success on either front for months on end.

It's been great to see some wonderful homes and buildings in Butte get a second life in the last decade or so, but it seems like the low costs and barriers to entry into the market have now left to a surplus of rentable properties. Thanks again, Dave!

Greetings to Everyone in or invested in Butte,

I'd be grateful for any insights on the current rental market there. I really like the town--grit and all--and have been looking at properties from a distance. When I watch Craigslist, rental property/property management website listings, etc. it seems that there is a tremendous surplus of properties and that places sit vacant for quite sometime. I place an emphasis on "see," as my observations are backed up not by data but antidotal observations.

So for those of you with a horse in the race or boots on the ground, do you have any insights on the current state of the rental market in Butte (especially with regards to single family homes)? Is there a surplus of rental properties at this point and an especially high vacancy rate?

And--as long as we're talking about Butte--do you have any advice or perspective you'd share with a person thinking about investing in Butte and the community?

Thanks in advance for your insights and assistance.

Mike