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All Forum Posts by: Mike Sangapore

Mike Sangapore has started 3 posts and replied 20 times.

Post: Good time to Cash Out Refinance?

Mike Sangapore
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Quote from @Steven Foster Wilson:
Quote from @Mike Sangapore:

Hey Guys,

I have a duplex with 100% equity that's probably worth around $325k and is rented for a gross total of $2,450/mo. I'm looking to buy a rental to rent as an Airbnb. I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to take advantage of this market (before it really takes a downturn) and cash-out-refinance and sit on the cash until I can find the next good deal. If it's worth $325k, which is conservative, I'd likely be able to walk away with somewhere around $225k which would decrease my cashflow from about $1,850 to about $700/month. The Airbnb range I was looking to be in would be around $300-400k so I would be taking out another mortgage but of course making sure the numbers would make sense and would generate more than the original net $1,850/mo that I'm sitting on now. Let me know your thoughts - this would only be my second rental so I'm very new and trying to make sure I cover all my bases. 

Thanks!

Mike


 I have only regretted things when I did not try hard enough. I feel you should go for it. What are you gaining by waiting? I would put an option of buying a multi-family home though and seeing how much passive income you could get from that? You could easily pick up a great property (or multiple) in Ohio with that money that will cashflow and appreciate. 

Couldn't agree more! I appreciate the feedback!

Post: Good time to Cash Out Refinance?

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Quote from @Joshua Messinger:

Hey @Mike Sangapore

I like the idea of cash-out refinancing and am assuming you'd like to go the 1031 route if you're looking for something within the same price range as where you are at right now. But, I agree with @Scott E. 100% on this one. If you don't have to pull out all of your equity at once then why would you? This way you can utilize more than one HELOC at once and get more properties than just one this way you are dealing with a lower overhead on each property and dealing with a higher scale.

Otherwise, if something works out conservatively numbers wise I would jump the gun on it ASAP. You seem like you're in a position to move forward so get it done! 

I hope this helped and if you ever need anything don't hesitate to reach out! Keep crushing it!! 

All the best, 

Josh 


Thank you Josh! I appreciate the feedback. Definitely going to shop around for good HELOC options - any recommendations would be much appreciated!

Post: Good time to Cash Out Refinance?

Mike Sangapore
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Quote from @Scott E.:

Why do you think the market is going to 'really take a downturn'

If I were in your shoes I would tap into the equity of your rental now that way the cash is on hand and ready to deploy when a deal comes up. But instead of a cash out refi I'd shop around for a HELOC. This way you don't need to start paying on the money until you use it.


Well properties in my area seem to be dropping quite a bit compared to 6 months ago - I'm not convinced that it will *really* take a downturn, I just want to be prepared in case it does. And thank you for the HELOC suggestion - I think that might be a good plan as well. I suppose I didn't care so much about having to start paying off immediately because I wouldn't have to dig into my pockets and still cash flow nicely.

Post: Good time to Cash Out Refinance?

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Quote from @John Underwood:

You missed the boat on low interest rates. Do you have an existing low rate?


 I don’t, I will likely be around 5%.

Post: Good time to Cash Out Refinance?

Mike Sangapore
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Hey Guys,

I have a duplex with 100% equity that's probably worth around $325k and is rented for a gross total of $2,450/mo. I'm looking to buy a rental to rent as an Airbnb. I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to take advantage of this market (before it really takes a downturn) and cash-out-refinance and sit on the cash until I can find the next good deal. If it's worth $325k, which is conservative, I'd likely be able to walk away with somewhere around $225k which would decrease my cashflow from about $1,850 to about $700/month. The Airbnb range I was looking to be in would be around $300-400k so I would be taking out another mortgage but of course making sure the numbers would make sense and would generate more than the original net $1,850/mo that I'm sitting on now. Let me know your thoughts - this would only be my second rental so I'm very new and trying to make sure I cover all my bases. 

Thanks!

Mike

Post: Is there enough room on this refinance?

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It looks like this will be the best route for this property.. I don't know if there are any better options other than a HELOC or waiting it out.. thanks for sharing @Brent Kane! I appreciate it!

Post: Is there enough room on this refinance?

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Nice! I just moved here back in April, I like it so far.

I haven't really considered a HELOC for this property but am digging into it more. That said, yes, any recommendations would be very much appreciated! Thank you!

Post: Is there enough room on this refinance?

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@David M.
That's kind of what I was thinking as well - it would help for another deal, but wouldn't make a world of difference.  I suppose if there are low cost updates I can do that will create better returns I can fish those out, otherwise, I will let it sit and potentially refinance in the future if things makes sense. Thank you for input again. 

Post: Is there enough room on this refinance?

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Hi @David M. I appreciate your response - sorry about the confusion. By 60%, I mean I would be recouping about 60% of my down payment after refinancing. My thoughts being: 210k* 75% = 157,500. 157,500 - 135,000 (now really about 133,500 after paydown) = 24,000. 24,000/40,000 (40,000 being my down payment) = 60%.  Thank you again for your help!

Post: Is there enough room on this refinance?

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Hey Everyone,


I'm thinking about refinancing and I wanted to hear your opinions.. I bought a single-family house in Middletown, CT in April for $172,500 and took out a loan for about $135,000. It's a relatively decent deal and I am currently house hacking. It was in good shape so not the best deal for a BRRRR but the plan is to rent it out once I move out. Now things have changed and I will likely be living here for another 1-2 years but want to pursue another deal without dipping too deep in my pocket. I estimate that the property is now worth somewhere in the neighborhood of $210,000. Assuming 75% of LTV, would it be worth refinancing and only taking out about 60% of my equity? There doesn't seem to be much else I can do to enhance the value of the property to receive justified returns. This will also (likely) be a long term hold and I estimate that vacancies won't be much of an issue as it is a high rental area.

I'd like to note that this is also my first of (hopefully) many deals to come. This particular purchase happened to be for an investment but also a place for me to live so I didn't have the time to wait for the "perfect" deal that would be a good BRRRR property.

Thanks guys and gals for your help!