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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 141 posts and replied 4070 times.

Post: Assuming low-interest loans from sellers -- how to do so as an investor?

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Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Don Konipol

So are you saying if I make $15/hr and have a 550 credit score I should not buy a $300k loan subto even though I can get it with no money down?

Isn’t that what most teach - never about if you can afford it but how to buy with no money in a deal.

You have a very dry sense of humor. ;-) Keep it up.

Aa they say in the "gator lending community". Don't worry about it, there is a lender that will give you money in 2nd position for closing and repairs on an over leveraged property, to buy it Subject To. They just want 1 and a half times their money back. lol

Post: Pace Morbly - Subto - Contracts

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I listen to Pace and he seems to really be sharp on Subject To (creative financing.) However I need to know the best way to get contracts written into templets were I can just plug the numbers into the deals I propose to sellers? 

Any suggestions, or do I just have my agent do this for me? Working in different markets just need to get some feedback. 


 I have contracts that are form fillable.  Hey @Nate Marshall, are you willing to share your contracts?



I've had Due on Sale called twice in 30 years. Once in 2008 and once in 2020. 

He's had it called 10 times recently. He's doing something wrong.


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"yes, I've had the due on sale clause called on me 10 times" (That is NOT something to brag about)


Post: Noob looking for advice on rental properties for positive cash flow in central texas

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Quote from @Bond Dan:

HI all,

Need some help. Trying to get into working towards how to get my first rental property that can provide positive cash flow. 

Appreciate any tips/advice on how to get myself gain the knowledge in this area and also to figure out how to find properties that can generate positive cash flow.

Appreciate your help and advice on this

Thank you very much

I buy off market to get positive cash flow.

What is it you want to accomplish?

Post: Best Cities in Arkansas for Rental Property: Seeking Cashflow

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Quote from @Paul Lynch:

Hi Everyone, I'm aiming to purchase my first rental property and have been looking at NW Arkansas (Bentonville, Lafeyette, etc) and Little Rock. Searching for LTR, high occupancy rate, good cap rate, and more concerned with cashflow than appreciation, though both would be nice. My budget is around $175K in a nice neighborhood w/ a good school district. I'm seeking advice from investors, realtors, or anyone with some insight and experience in the area. I'm really trying to narrow down my search into a couple areas. I appreciate your responses and thanks for reading!

What did you decide to do?

Post: These are the Best Markets and With $50,000 you can buy 3 Properties in 2024

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Quote from @Account Closed:

Here is a big pro tip:

Stop buying on the MLS. It’s too expensive! There is a process called “Subject To” and a similar process called “Seller Financing” that gives 1% or more monthly income.

There are other ways called “SEO” and “Pay Per Click” and “Yard Signs” and so on.

That’s right, you can buy 3 properties for $50,000 “Off Market”. Yes, you get depreciation and tax write offs. And it can be done out of state. These are decent homes in decent neighborhoods. Don’t try this in cheap neighborhoods. It’s too much work.

For instance, This property was bought for $5,000 (Five Thousand Dollars).

Click on images to enlarge Purchase & Sale Agreement (many more examples available).



This is an example of how the numbers work

There are hundreds of people doing these every day around the country.

My experience is the best place to focus on these are the typical places. Dallas, Atlanta, Indianapolis, Columbus. Places where investors are welcome and prices are reasonable.

We’ve had success in WA, AZ, TX, AL, GA.

Oh, I’d not tried in Socal yet, because of the high price point and unfriendly landlord/tenant laws. If someone is buying “off market” in California, please comment.

Isn’t it amazing to see what can be done with investment dollars. Instead of the bank making the money, the investor does. What a thought.

A certain amount of people are willing to sell on Creative Finance, like Subject To, (Subto), Wraps & Seller Finance for various reasons.

It's usually under $15,000 or so in "up front" money, so make sure you have some capital. No need for credit, no need for financing. These properties can be used for a rental, fix & flip, STR, Lease Option, 1031 whatever crosses your mind.

Anybody can research this, it’s been done for over a hundred years. But most investors use a mentor or coach to be trained, just because it speeds up the learning process so much. If you have the time though, you can learn all of this on Bigger Pockets and on the internet.

Have you found any Propstream or Auditor lists tend to have people who are interested in selling their home this way?

Your Question: "Have you found any Propstream or Auditor lists tend to have people who are interested in selling their home this way?"

Not really. I think if a list like that was published, first it would probably be illegal under the FCRA information to publish and second no one who had the list would ever reveal it. :-)

It's gold! That's why we teach how to find these. It's a little work but well worth it.

There is no published list of people wanting to sell with creative finance. Plus keeping it current would be an incredible task.

Post: How To Know You Have A Good Deal

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A Good Deal means different things to different people.

After many years of investing, A Good Deal to me is one that is:

1. Bought "off market" so I can buy below market price. I like this one because I have "instant equity" that protects me in the event of declining values

2. It needs to cash flow at $200 a month - I don't like negative cash flow for the sake of "appreciation". 

3. I don't buy for "future appreciation". It takes time and money to see if a property will appreciate. Between risk, tenant hassles, vacancies, mortgage payments, property taxes, insurance payments, replacing a roof, water heater and so, it takes a lot of appreciation to actually get ahead on that. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes not. So I don't gamble on it. 

I've been around a while so I understand that when prices drop, they can drop quickly and takes years to rebuild in inflated dollars. 

4. I buy in decent neighborhoods where you can walk at night. Dicey neighborhoods are harder to keep rented with good tenants Decent neighborhoods are a lot less hassle.

5. These are readily available, so I don't worry about finding "good deals".

Post: Latest & Greatest Searching Tools --- AI?

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Quote from @Micah Lynell Mortag:

Hi Y'all :) I'm curious what are some of the latest & greatest programs y'all are using to find and under write deals on or off market..  How is AI helping?

I haven't seen anything that is impressive enough to write about. It's still the same methods used for the last 5 years.

Post: 💥SUBTO FOR ASSIGNMENT Chandler AZ 85225

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Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Michael Malyszko

Curious why someone would subto a loan that high? We don’t do subto but invest in debt and just curious.

Because the wholesaler doesn't understand basic math, risk or profit. ;-) It's what he has to offer, so by golly, he's offering it.

Post: After you secure OPM / creative financing (verbally)... what next?

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Quote from @Holly Ross:

Hi! I'm trying to figure out how to get into real estate at a low cost of entry (~$50k cash), and so I'm of course trying to learn about how to use OPM and other creative financing options. 

So far I've kind of got the general idea behind subto, wrap loans, lease to own. And I know OPM just means sourcing friends and family / within your network largely. 

But for as many podcasts as I read, books, etc. The one sort of obvious piece I'm missing is what do you do once you actually have these people on the hook? Say I was able to get 4 people in my network to commit an amount of money... at this point would I meet with an attorney and ask them to draw up paperwork? What type of paperwork am I even asking for? I'm just a little lost with what kind of legal binding is in place and how to get it set up. Also curious what a normal interest rate and turnaround time would be for OPM. 

I know these things are highly variable, but even just a rough example scenario would be helpful to wrap my head around it! Thanks so much to anyone who could weigh in or give pointers to connect the dots for me.

Well, you could do a joint venture agreement. An attorney would draw up the agreement and inform you about how many investors under what conditions can join your joint venture with whatever restrictions. Then you open an escrow account and everybody wires funds, the escrow company gives an accounting and you put the money into the LLC account. From there you buy  and manage properties.

Post: Off market deals

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Quote from @Mashal Choudhry:

Hi, everyone how do you find off market distressed properties other than the mls?

Well, if it's on the MLS, then it isn't off market.
All I do is "off market". You can find them in a variety of ways like driving for dollars, post cards, cold calling, hanging posters, bandit signs, talking with friends and neighbrs and so on.