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All Forum Posts by: Michinori Kaneko

Michinori Kaneko has started 40 posts and replied 545 times.

Post: Tax consequences on insurance payouts

Michinori KanekoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York
  • Posts 571
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This is very helpful thank you for this. In your last scenario where payout was $400k and only $350k was used to rebuild, do I need to go through a special closing procedure to use that extra $50k kind of like with 1031 exchange? And if so what time frame do I have to use this $50k for it not to be taxed (maybe same calendar year for tax purposes? But then you would be screwed if you get the payout in December!)


Quote from @Ashish Acharya:

@Michinori Kaneko Insurance payouts for property loss generally follow IRS involuntary conversion rules (Section 1033), which allow you to defer capital gains taxes if you reinvest the proceeds in a similar property within a certain time frame. Here’s how your scenario would likely play out:

If the house burns down and you receive $400K in insurance proceeds, but use the full amount to rebuild, you won’t be taxed on the difference. Your cost basis remains $200K (option 3). The key here is that you must reinvest all of the proceeds into rebuilding the property to avoid capital gains tax.

If you take the payout and don’t rebuild, then the difference between your insurance payout and the adjusted cost basis ($400K - $200K = $200K) is taxable as a capital gain. This is because you effectively “sold” the property to the insurance company for $400K.

If you rebuild but don’t use the full $400K, say you only spend $350K, then $50K could be taxable unless you invest it in another qualifying property.

In short, if you fully reinvest the insurance payout into rebuilding, there’s no immediate tax hit, and your original cost basis stays at $200K. If you take the payout without reinvesting, the excess is taxed as capital gains. Hope this clears things up!

This post does not create a CPA-Client relationship. The information contained in this post is not to be relied upon. Readers should seek professional advice.


Post: Tax consequences on insurance payouts

Michinori KanekoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York
  • Posts 571
  • Votes 332

Yes really hoping it's no.3 in my scenario but if it's 2 that would be really bad and even in 1 you are paying lots of tax payments upfront and you would have to depreciate the increased cost basis over 27.5yrs so would not be ideal.

Post: Tax consequences on insurance payouts

Michinori KanekoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York
  • Posts 571
  • Votes 332

Hello, 

I am trying to figure out the tax consequences on insurance payouts as I'm thinking about having a more tightly secured portfolio.

Lets say that the house has adjusted cost basis of $200k.  The options for insuring the properties are fair value approach or full replacement cost. The fair value you can insure for whatever you feel is fair value (let's just say $250k in this instance) and full replacement will cost $400k.  

If the house completely burns down, under fair market value approach the tax consequences are pretty easily determined by taking difference in payout vs the cost basis as the gain. However I'm wondering under full replacement cost, how this works out. Let's say the house was fully rebuilt for $400k. Under this scenario am I:

1) taxed for the excess $200k ($400k - cost basis) as capital gain and my cost basis is now $400k.

2) taxed for the excess $200k ($400k - cost basis) as capital gain and my cost basis remains as $200k.

3) not taxed for capital gain and my cost basis remains at $200k.

if it's either 1 or 2 I would almost steer away from full replacement cost since that would mean I am paying for a phantom gain that I will never realize (I would assume the fmv will most likely still be around $250k even if it was fully rebuilt with $400k of cost/labor).  Thank you in advance for your help! 

Post: Looking for commercial financing solution on an unique residential property

Michinori KanekoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York
  • Posts 571
  • Votes 332
Quote from @Brandon Croucier:

I've got one I just closed like this, only 1 or 2 lenders in the space will do this kind of stuff.


 who is your lender? can you please provide me info? 

Post: Looking for commercial financing solution on an unique residential property

Michinori KanekoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York
  • Posts 571
  • Votes 332

I'd assume if its rented out by room then it has locks on every room sure, but how is that any different than student housing or other multi family houses?

Post: Looking for commercial financing solution on an unique residential property

Michinori KanekoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York
  • Posts 571
  • Votes 332

Hi, 


I am in contract to purchase a SFH which was converted into a boarding house. Basically it was a 4B2B house which was converted into 5 bedroom apartment, where the rooms are rented out individually. I had DSCR lender (to whom I disclosed the situation upfront) who just told me (after I paid for appraisal and wasted several weeks) that no DSCR lender would lend for this type of property, which I don't understand why since student housing can be funded via DSCR and this is a very similar concept.

In any case, if DSCR is not an option (or maybe i just need a better DSCR lender), I need a different option for financing but I need a commercial loan because I do not want the loans to show up on my personal credit. The property will be purchased by a single member LLC (which I am the sole owner). Please let me know if there are any leads in someone who could work out a lending option for scenario like this. Thank you for your help in advance!

Post: Over 20 Side by Side Duplex's

Michinori KanekoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York
  • Posts 571
  • Votes 332

how did you financing the 1.94M? did you need to invest any additional cash for renovation? how much are you renting for? 

Post: Fort Wayne, IN - Submarkets advice and Building a team

Michinori KanekoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York
  • Posts 571
  • Votes 332

nice, are you looking to sell this property? what is it renting for?

Post: BRRRR Deal Fort Wayne

Michinori KanekoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York
  • Posts 571
  • Votes 332

That's great. what rent are you collecting, and how much are your cashflowing? what is your ROI?

Post: Capital taxes on sales of house hack homes

Michinori KanekoPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • New York
  • Posts 571
  • Votes 332

Hi I wasn't planning on a house hack but I have a house that I'm considering renting out portion of it. It's not a multi family, it's a SFH. The question is on capital gains tax treatment when I sell the house down the line. I understand that when you sell your primary resident that you lived 2/5 past years you can get $500k deduction on your capital gains. I plan to rent it for few years then use the entire house as my resident when my kids get older and I need the additional space. My tax accountant told me that once I rent out a portion of the house that part becomes forever business property and while I can continue to take depreciation post rental period I will not be entitled to the capital gains treatment for that portion. Is this accurate? Is everyone that's house hacking paying capital gains taxes on portion they are not living in? Thank you for your help in advance