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All Forum Posts by: Michael Wyatt

Michael Wyatt has started 13 posts and replied 27 times.

I just noticed this thread from 5 months ago.  This happened to me as well and I lost a ton of money with the deal because of it.  

@Jeff S. I definitely didn’t assume this would be a gimme.  Interested in learning what the actual process is like, how much underwriting and what not is the broker responsible for, what docs are required so that you get paid the broker fee, etc.  

Is the broker doing 99% of the work up front and pairing with a lender? Or do you collect info and work with a loan officer for a terms sheet and just add your points on top. Or a little of both depending on lender.  

I think I’m pretty good at deal analysis and I enjoy it.  I guess my other main question outside the above are how much the broker is involved in the process after pairing a borrower/lender.  

Quote from @Nick Belsky:
Quote from @Michael Wyatt:

Would love to chat with a broker - how you got into the biz, how it works, etc.  

I have referred many people to hard money lenders that I have worked with and had a good relationship with.  This was just to be helpful to them and share my good experience.  Only once did I receive a small referral fee.  I haven't really asked or wanted one, but now I am realizing that there may be potential in brokering a deal rather than just referring people to lenders. 

Wondering what this would entail.  


 This is exactly what I did about 4 years ago.  Finding a mentor is key to help understanding the ropes of commercial lending.  No two lenders are the same and all are not playing from the same Fannie/Freddie guidelines that you find with agency and government loans.  Each one is truly unique.  So to echo what a few others have said, you need the following:

1. A lender network.  You can either be a niche or cast a wide net and provide resources for all loan types.  Personally, I stay away from wholesale lenders and focus on syndications, hedge funds, and HNWI Family Offices.  They offer the most flexibility and can get really creative.  I carry a few banks as well, just because, rarely end up submitting a deal to them.  I was fortunate enough to find a few AEs whom I called up at random (Google search to find them) and met some very humble folks who were patient and willing to teach me.  Once I learned more, I was able to apply that knowledge and gain the respect of other AEs at other lenders who would then share.  It is amazing to me now how I teach some of the AEs I work with!

2. Client network.  I am not a large fan of advertising.  Nearly all of my business is word of mouth, referrals, or repeat clients.  BP is the only place I am regularly posting/reading forums!  Residential focuses heavily on cold calling and realtor relationships... blah blah.  I don't like or do that either.  Getting started was tough, for sure, but once I got a few loans under my belt and showed clients that I was not one of those brokers that "throws crap against a wall to see if it will stick", their confidence as well as mine went way up.  Too many "brokers" out there want to make an introduction then get paid for doing nothing.  Stand out and be an example.  Work your files, talk to your AEs/lenders/clients to make sure the piece of the puzzle your client has fits where you are trying to place it.  Ask the hard questions and don't be afraid to tell someone you can't help them.  Sometimes the ask is a unicorn and there's nothing you can do.  You will learn to manage your time wisely and when not to waste it. 

I'd be happy to share some insight with you but at the same time, I worked hard to build my network and vet my lenders.  I don't give them up quite so easily!  Lol!

Cheers!

Thanks for the info Nick.  I sent you a DM
Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Michael Wyatt:

Would love to chat with a broker - how you got into the biz, how it works, etc.  

I have referred many people to hard money lenders that I have worked with and had a good relationship with.  This was just to be helpful to them and share my good experience.  Only once did I receive a small referral fee.  I haven't really asked or wanted one, but now I am realizing that there may be potential in brokering a deal rather than just referring people to lenders. 

Wondering what this would entail.  


 I know an individual who does just this, he around 1/2 point on each transaction and does business purpose short term loans for fix and flips or those who could not get more traditional lending. He found a unique niche with people who have $ but its tied up elsewhere.


 Hey Chris, any chance you could connect us?

Would love to chat with a broker - how you got into the biz, how it works, etc.  

I have referred many people to hard money lenders that I have worked with and had a good relationship with.  This was just to be helpful to them and share my good experience.  Only once did I receive a small referral fee.  I haven't really asked or wanted one, but now I am realizing that there may be potential in brokering a deal rather than just referring people to lenders. 

Wondering what this would entail.  

$1800 in "junk" fees isn't too high.  

I have seen 0% origination, but high rate, about 16%.  What are they quoting you? 

To answer the question, nothing really raises a red flag, but I bet with less points you are getting a higher rate.  Personally I would go with a lender that offers 1-2.5 points and try to get your rate down to 12% or below.  If you have a project that drags, the higher monthly interest will start to add up quickly.  

Val, I would try to save up 20-30k and in the meantime go to REI meetups, watch youtube videos, read this forum and the Bigger Pockets books, etc. There isn't a whole lot an investor will be able to do with 1k. You could potentially look at lending your 1k to someone for an EMD. You could also potentially partner with a wholesaler or other investor and see if there's anything you can do to help them in exchange for learning what they do.

Hi - looking to connect with those who have bought a rehab type property with the intention to place a tenant and sell as a turnkey rental to other investors. Specifically have the following questions:

1. How do you determine ARV/sales price? Assuming the rehab and finishes will be more rental grade. Are you running comps both on recent sales and also on rents to see if it will cash flow for the future buyer?

2. How do you connect with buyers? Do you list on MLS or try to build your own buyers list similar to how a wholesaler would go about this?

3. What is most important to turnkey buyers - cash flow, recent updates to property, current condition of the property, neighborhood, do you want a property manager in place or do you want to bring your own, do you prefer the tenant in place or find your own, etc.

Hi - looking to connect with those who have bought a rehab type property with the intention to place a tenant and sell as a turnkey rental to other investors. Specifically have the following questions:

1. How do you determine ARV/sales price? Assuming the rehab and finishes will be more rental grade. Are you running comps both on recent sales and also on rents to see if it will cash flow for the future buyer?

2. How do you connect with buyers? Do you list on MLS or try to build your own buyers list similar to how a wholesaler would go about this?

3. What is most important to turnkey buyers - cash flow, recent updates to property, current condition of the property, neighborhood, do you want a property manager in place or do you want to bring your own, do you prefer the tenant in place or find your own, etc.

Hi - looking to connect with those who have bought a rehab type property with the intention to place a tenant and sell as a turnkey rental to other investors.  Specifically have the following questions: 

1. How do you determine ARV/sales price? Assuming the rehab and finishes will be more rental grade. Are you running comps both on recent sales and also on rents to see if it will cash flow for the future buyer?

2. How do you connect with buyers? Do you list on MLS or try to build your own buyers list similar to how a wholesaler would go about this?

3.  What is most important to turnkey buyers - cash flow, recent updates to property, current condition of the property, neighborhood, do you want a property manager in place or do you want to bring your own, do you prefer the tenant in place or find your own, etc.