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All Forum Posts by: Michael Jones

Michael Jones has started 5 posts and replied 44 times.

Post: Oregon Sheriff sales and foreclosures

Michael JonesPosted
  • Flipper
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 19

@Kari Bennett I've never heard of it taking 6 months.  But then again I'm only active in the Portland metro area.  If you obtain the redemption rights and exercise them you should have title within or soon after 60 days.  

Post: Oregon Sheriff sales and foreclosures

Michael JonesPosted
  • Flipper
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 19

Don't lose sight of the fact that people often make agreements to purchase redemption rights before the auction.  You're wise to contact the owner before the auction.  You don't want to purchase and then talk to owners just to find out the rights have been purchased.  Hope you are doing your title work research as well .  

Post: Oregon Private Loan Paperwork

Michael JonesPosted
  • Flipper
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 19

I've had title do this for me numerous times.  

Post: Should I be upset with my lender?

Michael JonesPosted
  • Flipper
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 19

@Chris Mason  Yeah I've stayed away from lending for listening to too many horror stories of how the documentation is insane.  But I haven't gone through the process.  The way you've explained it, I think, though it'll still be a pita I shouldn't have too many problems. I've maintained a bank account that is only for business and can verify the transactions and can show decent honest tax returns.  I think the big issue I need to get through is to maintain higher (non working for me) funds for a few months in the bank account.  

Final question(s).  I just bought a house 6 weeks ago and will be putting a renter in it in 3 weeks.  So, I go into the bank/credit union to get a loan, does it count against me if they say no I need to hold the house for a few more months?  My scenario: bought for 300K, putting 45K into it and want to pull financing for 270K.  Value 430-460K. Rent: $2475.  Would like to pull money back out the soonest I can. Thoughts? 

Post: Should I be upset with my lender?

Michael JonesPosted
  • Flipper
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Chris Mason:
Originally posted by @Elena Jobson:

I would be upset with them. If they were missing information from you, they should have asked instead of making it a last minute scramble. All lenders are different, but my opinion is that 6 weeks is enough time to get done what needs to be done and push a loan through underwriting. Just as long as it was not you dragging your feet in getting them their required items, I would say you have every right to be upset.

 They likely didn't know about all these random transactions ahead of time. 

Towards the end: "Hi, will you please send me a transaction history showing your cash to close clearing your account?"

Look at transaction history. 15 large deposits. They ignored my guidance. Great, thanks for helping me help you.

Need to source all 15 deposits.

Need transaction histories associated with the bank accounts all 15 large deposits came from, and two months of regular bank statements if this came from an unverified account, which in turn will also need to have all large deposits sourced.

Can cascade from there. 

Relationships are a two-way street.

When I write a preapproval letter, that means I've captured a moment in time. When the shutter clicked on my digital camera, there was $100k in this account, $75k in that account. Any significant departure from that not pertaining to buying this house and sending funds directly from there to escrow, voids my preapproval. If the loan has been formally underwriting approved, this activity voids that approval and now I need to collect a bunch of BS to send it back to be re-underwritten.

You can collect rent from your tenants and pay from your employer. That's OK and was captured by my digital camera. You can randomly move money around all you want, and I'll keep doing my job and harassing you for updated bank statements, and keep sending it back to be re-underwritten, and we will never close until you stop it. That's how this two-way relationship works.

 @Chris M  

Please expand on this. I haven't gotten a loan since 2004.  I know it's changed a lot but what I can't figure out is how does underwriting work in regards to self employed investors.  I have thousands of dollars moving on a consistent basis.  My account may have 200K in it today and then in three weeks might be down to 20K.  And it might be just a few transactions or it might be several smaller transactions to pay for contractors etc.  I just can't stop working my plan so my bank account doesn't have activity.  

How does the lending community deal with people like me?  Or a better question is how do I set up for a smooth transaction as I'm just now starting to seriously investigate holding rentals with bank lending.  

 Other than the disruption I'm wondering why you want them out during inspection.  If it were me, I'd want them to stay.   I doubt this happens very often but requiring them gone for the inspection opens the door to claims of missing/broken items.  It's disruptive but they know the house is being sold and I'm sure you told them about the process.  I'm sure it would make it easier but I wouldn't want that exposure.   

Post: Low Doc HELOC for Self-Employed?

Michael JonesPosted
  • Flipper
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 19

Julie Martin at the Hollywood branch is pretty knowledgeable and understands investors.  

Post: Investor new to Portland

Michael JonesPosted
  • Flipper
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 19

Welcome Mason.  This is a great place to get lots of info.  You might look into the local reia or Rarebird. 

What kind of investing are you doing?  flips, wholesales? 

Mike

Post: A potential property

Michael JonesPosted
  • Flipper
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 19

I've owned townhouses and condos in the past. Most often though I've rehabbed and flipped them. Like said above, HOA's can increase monthly fees and have capital calls for repairs. You definitely need to investigate the HOA, see the financials and meeting minutes for the past year at a minimum. This should let you know the health of the community. You should also be able to chat with a hoa representative.

Red flag for me is when the hoa fees are so cheap like this one. Does it just cover landscape and exterior? If it covers water/sewer and garbage, as well as landscape and reserves for repairs, I'd say it's collecting way too little in reserves. Any HOA in Portland that doesn't collect at least $300/month would be suspect to me. It's a bigger chunk but HOA's that collect and maintain consistently are the ones that don't get run down.

Investigate before you buy. Your purchase contract should allow for review of HOA docs.

We all get excited with a potential opportunity and we need to avoid paralysis and pull the trigger.  However, there's always another deal around the corner.  

Good luck. 

Post: New investor - Opinion on plan for getting started

Michael JonesPosted
  • Flipper
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 19

@Ben D. 

Ben, I only asked because I thought I might be able to give you specifics on the areas but truly I don't invest much on the west side.  I'm much more familiar with Southeast Portland.  Like Michell Prunty noted, the areas you're looking are cheaper and rents cheaper as well.  Not that you can't do well in lower income areas and many people have, you might want to consider the area and the headache factor with lower income neighborhoods. The Portland metro area is quite pocketed.  Might be nice in one block and sketchy the next block over.  This is one reason why you need to know where you are buying and knowing your values.