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All Forum Posts by: McKenzie Peterson

McKenzie Peterson has started 9 posts and replied 40 times.

This spicy deal is 5 minutes from downtown Greenville in the hot Nicholtown market! The property has been completely gutted and needs less than 50k worth of work to be a beautiful street facing flip or rental off of Rebecca street. The ARV is between 250-280k plenty of room for ROI. The current owner has a large portfolio and this property is farther away from other investments this is essentially trimming the fat out of her portfolio. I have pictures and more information available upon request closing takes place 12/4/18.

Price Reduction to 38k need to close quickly!

Post: First Deal In Greenville SC!

McKenzie PetersonPosted
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Originally posted by @Logan M. Gibbons:
@McKenzie Peterson

Thanks for replying, I’m super pumped about it. Bigger pockets seems like a valuable resource for sure

How did the deal end up ? Can you give any details ?

I currently have two properties under contract and today I met some guys that own 6 gigantic lots and 4 rental properties who also gave me the number of another guy who wants to sell a property that is my type. I also added a real estate attorney to my team, so now I am a little closer to my power team. I have learned that deals are coming to quickly to try and figure out every little detail as I go. Owner with all the properties are 76 and 86 and just want to play golf everyday. He wants a cash offer, owner financed, and loan financing terms and is ready to jump with the right motivation. Do I need a mentor to help me figure out all my thoughts about this or keep wholesaling away. Real Estate Investing GOES HARD.

This deal needs a bit of work to go into it in order for it to be a great rental although a lot of it is just cosmetics. I have pictures and more information upon request please do not hesitate to reach out. The owners live far away and are just not as young as they use to be and do not want to travel so far when they have many other investment properties. Closing is taking place on 9/28/18. 

Post: Mobile Home Investing

McKenzie PetersonPosted
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Originally posted by @Ingrid J.:

@McKenzie Peterson I can recommend David Rousher's book "How to Invest in a mobile home park - for business profit and money" in this case.

His chapter 6 "Why not just build a mobile home park?" will give you a complete layout of the challanges and costs related to establishing a new park. In summary, it's not cheap and it's not easily done!

 Ingrid thank you for the suggestion and I will be sure to check out the book you recommended ! I think I am going’s to stay away from turning this into a park at least for now so I don’t have to go through the the process of registering for a mobile home park. If you have any advice though on just installing a couple and some challenges or just things to think about doing this I would love to hear about it.

Post: Mobile Home Investing

McKenzie PetersonPosted
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Originally posted by @Rachel H.:

@McKenzie Peterson Check with zoning to see if it's possible. The mobile homes you see around there may be grandfathered in. You'll have to see what the restrictions (if any) are for bringing mobile homes and placing them on that specific property. Good luck!!  

 Thanks Rachel’s as great to be cheered on so to say by fellow investors reassures you that we are chasing the right concepts with real estate and becoming financially free. I checked with the cities zonning department and can fit 3 mobile homes on the property without having to go through any paperwork. 

Post: Mobile Home Investing

McKenzie PetersonPosted
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Originally posted by @David Hildebrandt:

What do you mean by "holding the title with a lien until the loan is satisfied" why would someone do this ? Can you explain some of those strategies to generate revenue from mobile homes.

When you sell someone a traditional piece of real estate they hold the deed to the property. They sign a promissory note with a lending institution and the note is secured the property with a mortgage, thus the property is collateral for the loan. Should the new owner not pay, you have to go through the foreclosure process in order to remove them from the property. With a mobile home that changes. You hold the original title and the lessee gets a copy with an indicated lien holder, which is you if you are financing the home. Thus the process of removing them from the home is much shorter and simpler, much like repossessing a car. This is good, because 9 times out of 10 they wont pay off the note and you will "sell" the home again to the next person on payments with X dollars down.

- How do you calculate lot rent, home rent ?

Sell the monthly payment. Calculate the terms so that the total payment (lot rent + mobile home payment) comes out to be 80 to 90% of what someone could rent and apartment for of the same size/floorplan. 

- And how can you make revenue off utilities ?

Some responded that you can't make money off utilities. In a traditional sense gas and water cannot be marked up such that your tenants are paying more in total than you are charged for the bill. But if you think outside the box a bit to less traditional utilities then its possible. Lets say you have 100 serves of cable in your park. Normally each tenant would pay the cable company $40/mo for cable tv. You negotiate with them to buy the serves in bulk at $20 per and make the spread. If a park has individual propane tanks at each trailer, you can absolutely negotiate a reduced rate for propane and charge back the tenants.

- What are some other ways I can generate revenue from them seems like there are more ?

You have too small of a potential park for some of the ideas above to work. Some others might not make sense either but are big money makers. Coin Laundry, Snow Removal (if your streets are not dedicated back to the county), Lawn Mowing (technically each is responsible for their own lot, but you end up with several heights of grass and random lawnmowers strewn about)

 - Thank you for the information about lien that would definitely be beneficial if someone did not pay and knowing we can get the out fast is important as well. 

- I understand what you mean about making a profit off utilities basically saying if you buy in bulk then there typically deals to get them for less but your tenants do not need to know what you paid to do that which makes an abundance of sens is very smart! 

- As of right now if I wanted to stay away from the mobile home park then I would need to have 3 or less mobile homes on the property. Thank you for the knowledge again David sparked me to ask different questions to things I did not even know I did not know.

Post: Mobile Home Investing

McKenzie PetersonPosted
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Originally posted by @Janice V.:

You're idea is great but putting it into fruition can be tough. First, even you own the property/land you will need license/permit from the city before you can put a MH in your land. That land itself has to be zoned for MH and even you got that small piece of land get rezoned for MH, it will cost at least 30k or more each pad to set it up.

Also, its illegal to make money off utilities.

Thank you for your advice the city zonning and planning commission said I do not need a permit if I keep it to 3 mobile homes or less. 

Post: Mobile Home Investing

McKenzie PetersonPosted
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Originally posted by @Hai Loc:
@McKenzie Peterson

Depends on zoning restrictions. You need to find out if the surrounding mobile homes are grandfathered. You may be seeing 6 homes on each acre but that may have been decades ago.. you need to call county building and development committee.

Developing a park is not feasible especially under 6 units.. grading water and sewer hook ups will eat you alive. Development cost would be shared more efficiently with 50+ units but even that wouldn't be feasible in terms of development equity return.. just not there

It makes more sense to expand on an existing park and buying adjacent land to combine and expand..

I see new mobile homes dropped to you in the Midwest for $46k. 4 bed 2 bath 1100.sqft.. these can rent for $1200 all day in Franklin County. I plan to expand my park and make a small court of these new mobile homes segregated from my other lower end mobile homes.. I can easily hook up my existing private water and sewer lines to accommodate.

Also I don't even have to buy the homes. I can make a pitch out to investors on how they can make $700 net per month on a $46k investment. There expenses are $300 for lot rent $120 for management and $80 for trailer tax, insurance and capex.. tenant pays for utilities and trash...

Do your home work on zoning..

Good luck

Thank you so much for this info and sorry it took so long for me message back I finally had time to go up to the city and talk to the zonning department. I can fit 3 homes on the property without it needing to be in mobile home park regulations. I am not in a postoin where I can get started with that many homes whichever is why I want to get started with a smaller amount. I appreciate your knowledges and will be sure to ask more questions when I have the capital to actually install the homes on the property.