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All Forum Posts by: Matt Holmer

Matt Holmer has started 19 posts and replied 105 times.

Post: What am I doing wrong?

Matt HolmerPosted
  • Attorney
  • Bettendorf, IA
  • Posts 106
  • Votes 47

While I know it can carry by area, I agree that insurance rate is way high. Yesterday I purchased a policy with a replacement value of $115,000 and it was $575/year. The ARV of the property is around 90,000.

Post: Best locks for rental

Matt HolmerPosted
  • Attorney
  • Bettendorf, IA
  • Posts 106
  • Votes 47

I like Schlage but any of the major manufactures will work as long as the entire until is the same brand (and therefore same keyway).  Between tenants, I buy a rekey kit like this one for about $11.00  The kit has enough pins to rekey 6 locks and comes with 3 keys.

It might seem daunting at first, but rekey your own locks is pretty simple and only takes about 5 minutes per lock once you have it figured out. 

Post: cash out refinancing strategy

Matt HolmerPosted
  • Attorney
  • Bettendorf, IA
  • Posts 106
  • Votes 47

@Joe Villeneuve

Thank you for all the tips in this thread. I've moved away from private money and took on a partner for my next deal. Based on the comps, I should have about 70% of the ARV into the deal and hope to use this strategy a couple times before the end of the year.

Thanks all!

Post: cash out refinancing strategy

Matt HolmerPosted
  • Attorney
  • Bettendorf, IA
  • Posts 106
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:
Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:
Originally posted by @Daniel Levine:
Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:
Originally posted by @Tammy Vitale:

.............. and rehab timing, the average is between 4 - 7 per year...never spending the money, using the same money.

The numbers:

Average cost per deal including rehab, fess, etc...)          $50,000 - 60,000
Average ARV $80,000 - 92,000
75% REFI (6 month)                                                          $60,000 - 69,000
Average cash out at refi, an additional...                           $ 3,000 - 10,000
Average number of houses per year                                        4  - 7
Minimum added NCF per year (avg. $300/deal)               $  1,200 - 2,100/month
Equity is still around 25% per property

Cash spent total per year                                                    $  0

One of the many added advantages to this strategy is I can outbid most other offers since I can offer more than the AP, as long as my total cost doesn't exceed the 75% of the ARV, since I get it all back at refi.

 I am so excited to try this!!! I guess you need enough cash to purchase 6 months worth of inventory so you can do the 4-7 deals a year. 

 No.  You only need enough for the first deal, as long as the rest of the deals following it are in the same price range.  The first REFI (it's actually an Equity Loan) happens as fast as 2 weeks, but let's say between rehab, appraisers schedule, etc... it takes 2 months.  Then the actual refi I use to hold takes 6 months of seasoning (ownership...not just ental seasoning). The 2nd Refi pays off the EQuity Loan.  Here's how it works:

Time(apprx)    Prop #    Event   Cash In   Cash Out   Cash Flow   Cost (New $ Need)
2 Month (2) 1 LOC $50k $55k $250/m $50k
2           (4)             2            LOC       $50k         $55k           $250(500)               0
2           (6)             3           LOC        $50k         $55k           $250(750)               0
                            1            REFI          0            $  5k            $100(850)                0
2           (8)             4           LOC        $50k         $55k           $250(1100)              0
                            2           REFI           0            $ 5k             $100(1200)             0
2          (10)           5            LOC        $50k        $55k             $250(1450)            0
                            3           REFI           0            $ 5k             $100(1550)             0
2          (12)           6            LOC        $50k        $55k            $250(1800)              0
                            4           REFI           0            $ 5k             $100(1900)             0
Summary             6                           $50k        $100k           $1900/month      $50k

(approx...numbers will vary)    
1 -The Cash in total is only $50k since the refis let me use the same money over and over 
2 -The Cash Out represents the spread from each Cash In/Out event total
3 -The Cash Flow shows $250 for each LOC event, and an added $100 for each REFI
4 -Cost (New $$) Total is only $50k since I use the same money over and over.  Note that when/if I decide to stop doing this, the last refi gets me back the original $50k...thus, I never really spend it.
5 - Notice that I've actually turned my $50k into $100k, so I can start another line of repeating deals with these funds too.      

 Joe

Since you're paying off the lines of credit with a refi on the same property after 6 months, you essentially close the loc correct? Do you get any push back from the bankers who are doing the original LOC since you only have them open for such a limited time?

Thank you for the great info. 

Post: Turnkey Investment Properties

Matt HolmerPosted
  • Attorney
  • Bettendorf, IA
  • Posts 106
  • Votes 47

There is a TON of discussion on these forums regarding the positive and negatives of turn key properties.  Just like anything else, they are providing a service and looking to be compensated for that service.  Therefore, when the property repairs are already complete, expect to pay a premium.

However, some companies offer a discount if the investor purchases the property in cash (pre-rehab) and funds the repair cost.  This way, the turn key provider is not out any of their own money and therefore can offer a discount.  

Post: cash out refinancing strategy

Matt HolmerPosted
  • Attorney
  • Bettendorf, IA
  • Posts 106
  • Votes 47

May be a stupid question, but if you use the same bank will they use the same appraisal from the line of credit as they do the refi a few months later?

I have to think freshly rehabbed property that is empty will appraise higher then one with a tenant that just moved in. 

Post: cash out refinancing strategy

Matt HolmerPosted
  • Attorney
  • Bettendorf, IA
  • Posts 106
  • Votes 47
Originally posted by @Joe Villeneuve:
Originally posted by @Tammy Vitale:

my experience is that my conventional lender won't lend on a just purchased property for at least one year and then up to 80% depending on your credit and income.  Your income ratios improve after you have managed a first rental for 2 years, because the *potential* income from the 2nd rental is added to your income for figuring the ratios.

 6 months seasoning in order to do a cash out refi.

I can also do an immediate Equity Loan (with an all cash deal I have 100% equity) at 70% ARV for 3.875% (NonOwnerOcc), 15 yr amort. No pre-pay penalty. The last one I did took 14 days to cash...had to wait 10 days for the appraisal.

I get my cash all out using the LOC immediately, then take out that with the refi in 6 months, which I use to hold the property. The 30yr amort vs. the 15 yr saves me about $100/month.

 Joe

In this above what is the purpose of the Line of credit? I am doing a all cash deal with 50% private money and 50% from savings. I think the line of credit would be a great option to pay back the private money while waiting for the seasoning period aND would have a lower rate.

Questions

Do you get an apprasial for  the loc?

Are there closing cost for the loc?

Thank you

Post: 1st Property Rehab Buy and Hold, Quite a Success

Matt HolmerPosted
  • Attorney
  • Bettendorf, IA
  • Posts 106
  • Votes 47

What percentage of the new appraised value was your lender willing to do with the cash out refi? Also, what type of terms did you get on the refi?  (e.g. 4.5% interest with 30 year amortization).

Did you use a local lender or one of the big guys?

Thanks!

Post: Buy and Hold: SFH no garage. Put up storage shed?

Matt HolmerPosted
  • Attorney
  • Bettendorf, IA
  • Posts 106
  • Votes 47

Thank you for the comments.  About 80% of the house have garages.  This one used to have a garage located on the parking slab.  However, the bank previously tore it down.