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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 31 posts and replied 197 times.

Post: Code Violation Lists

Account ClosedPosted
  • Omaha, NE
  • Posts 201
  • Votes 85

hell of an idea!

 i called my cities code enforcement department ( i call them on every property i offer on to check for any outstanding violations). She wasn't any help, said their were between 3-4 thousand homes in our city currently with code violations and they have no such master list. 

I bet she does or is able to make one somehow.... anyhow.... good idea.

Post: Allowed to seek houses for purchase?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Omaha, NE
  • Posts 201
  • Votes 85

@Dave Visaya @Rob Golob

OP is too vague..... i thought he was talking about pursuing houses that are listed for sale to circumvent MLS fees or somethin...

Post: What does it mean when a property has a 'judgment' on it?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Omaha, NE
  • Posts 201
  • Votes 85

@Tom S. @Stone Wilson

A lien doesnt need to be paid in order to purchase/sell a property. Im in the middle of a contract right now on a duplex with a property that has a $10k lien on it. It depends on how the property is being purchased. A cash buyer can buy a property with a lien on it, the title is insurable, the insurance will simply state that the only outstanding item/excluded item is said lien. You can buy it and simply continue to not pay it. It only is a problem when there is a bank involved who wants 1st lien position. So if your a cash buyer for example and your buying a rental property which has a lien on it and you intend to long term hold the property or even die with it (such as my case), then the lien really isnt an immediate problem. The lien holder needs to sue or attempt to foreclose on the property in order to get paid, at which point then you have to pay them. You need to be able to come up with the funds to pay them if they attempt to forclose, which as most of us see, is a decent chunk of time generally. 

Another reason, almost all, lien holders are willing to accept pennies on the dollar is because in most cases they are not 1st lien position, the bank is. and if the bank/1st lien position ever forecloses on the property due to borrower nonpayment, then the lower lien positions are all wiped out... receiving only remains of the proceeds after the bank takes theirs, and unless there is substantial equity then unfortunately the lien holder receives nothing.

the 2 liens that automatically get bumped up to 1st lien position: delinquent taxes, federal or property. (hence why most banks require escrow accounts on mortgages so they can make damn sure they keep their 1st lien position)

Post: OPM? Help!

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  • Omaha, NE
  • Posts 201
  • Votes 85

@Andriana Babikian 

heres an example, there is a pretty successful whole seller in my area( hes damn near like a mini version of an MLS because he always has so many properties under contract) and this is what he does:

1-  posts bandit signs "buy your house for cash", goes up to houses that appear in disrepair but in good areas and offers to buy their house, sends out letters to specific areas of town that he likes to get abandoned or neglected properties in, etc. 

2 - once he finds a potential property and owner that is willing to sell but for some reason such as property condition cant sell in a traditional manner or simply wants the property gone asap, he will negotiate a sale price with the owner. In his negotiations he will account for: repairs, holding costs, after repair value, purchasing & reselling costs for the cash buyer, profit for the potential cash buyer, and of course his whole sell profit. - If you account for all of these correctly (research the 70% rule as a starting guide but keep in mind some cash buyers use a more stringent rule such as me I use 65% of ARV as my trigger, and remember it doesnt include your wholeselling profit) and are able to get the owner to agree to a price, that is how you have created " a deal".

3 - Now that you and the owner have agreed to a price, you both sign an assignable contract giving you a x amount of time to purchase or assign the contract to a different investor. Simple templates are available here on BP under the Resources tab - Fileplace. You can use them, alter them or choose to use a different version you find by searching past forum threads on here. 

4 - at this point you now have "a deal", the wholeseller in my area primarily uses facebook, craigslist and zillow but NOT the MLS. (you can post on zillow without being on the MLS). his advertizing motto is that you will not find his deals on the MLS. Once you post it, provided its a deal, thats when the herd of buyers start blowing up your phone to beat out the next guy.

Regarding how you get paid, many generally get paid at closing as a contractual party to the transaction, the closing company cuts the wholeseller a check and the owner a check. Some whole sellers get paid at time of assignment, aka over coffee when they meet with the cash buyer to sign over the assignable contract.

This is just one example of my personal experience with wholesellers (from the perspective of the buyer). As to how much the wholeseller can make on the deal, depends on how low they got the purchase price in the first place. For me as long as I get a deal in a good area at 65% ARV(minus repair costs obviously), I tell whole sellers I dont care how much they make, without them (atleast for that specific find) I wouldn't of had the deal so the more the better.

if you want, send me a PM with your email and I will forward you the last email I got from him (im on his email list), shows his various properties he is wholeselling right now. probably help give you an idea of how he does it

You dont have to wholesell the deal either, if you want to do the work and flip the property yourself you can, but you will find less investors that want to only be a bank, and the ones that do will generally want you to have more then just a deal, they will want you to have some percentage of cash/skin in the game.

Post: OPM? Help!

Account ClosedPosted
  • Omaha, NE
  • Posts 201
  • Votes 85

@Andriana Babikian I wouldnt worry about the conversation part. Find the deal first, get it under assignable contract, and the buyers will come to you. Minor networking at a REIA or simply posting a cash only on craigslist. You will be amazed, if you have an actual deal it will be like a heard of elephants coming to you in a day. If they are not then it wasnt a deal.

Cash buyers are constantly searching, daily, some times all day (like me), for a deal. Because its known that the second a deal is found, its typically only hours before the heard follows. So dont worry about finding cash buyers, they will turn every stone because they are more concerned about finding you ( IF you have a deal).

@Account Closed JP Morgan Chase

@Ryan Dossey when we found out about the 10k lien and him having to bring 5k to closing (which he was refusing to do) I kept looking to see if I was comfortable paying the extra 5k just so he could leave without paying and be willing to do the deal. But to be honest, i truly did make him my absolute highest and best offer. anything higher and no question I would walk. 

I had to go get approved for a 30 yr conventional mortgage to make it make sense when normally I would only be interested in the typical shorter commercial loans and keeping them in my LLC.

@Rob Beland Thats what I keep thinking - thats what title insurance is for. 

I just have this feeling that something bad could happen to me down the road and theirs some loophole in title insurance or something - (i know thats an inexperienced statement). The sketchy'ness of the seller regarding how he is willing and wanting to not pay the mortgage which he knows he took out isnt helping me feel better.

So, im under contract to buy a duplex for $68k, actually nearing the end of the contract period. 

its kinda turned into a hairy mess. Heres the key notes:

- Title company found a $10k judgement against the seller which is tied to the property.

- Seller has a 59k mortgage, after all is said and done he would end up having to bring approx. $5k to closing due to judgement & misc. He is not willing to pay anything, sounds like he is financially stretched and has messed up his credit in recent years. (commented to me that he would let it go into foreclosure before paying)

- I go to the deeds office with the seller (we've become somewhat friendly acquaintances) and find out there is no filed mortgage on the property. This blows the sellers mind because he is actively paying on a mortgage. In Douglas county the Deeds Office is the one stop shop for mortgage filings, if there is a mortgage on a property thats the place it is filed. I call the Title company and they confirm, although the seller told them he has a mortgage, they did not find a mortgage on the property either. 

- Seller got his lawyer involved to attempt to negotiate down the 10k judgement with the creditor (a defaulted LOC apparently) so he could atleast walk away at closing with nothing out of pocket free and clear. No progress was able to be made.

- Seller is now wanting to still sell without paying off the mortgage, pocket the $50k+ cash after paying the 10k judgement and default on the mortgage. 

- Title company contacted his bank for a loan payoff amount (confirmed $59k), it does in fact show this property as the security.

- I asked if the title company would still insure the title without paying off the note, they hesitantly said yes, then also said they wouldnt recommend buying without paying it off.

- im concerned about his bank possibly coming after me later with some document they found somehow, maybe a messed up filing at the deeds office. Or something and me now either getting forclosed on by them or me now owing that additional 59k)

what the hell do i do? run? allow the transaction?

@Owen Dashner    

Post: Can someone be successful, if they're Ugly, because of dental issues?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Omaha, NE
  • Posts 201
  • Votes 85

HERE WE GO AGAIN. this is gonna be just like the " should you disclose a haunting" post. sucks us all in, cant help but click on it, and after reading truly realize we just wasted 5 min of our lives. lol

100 posts here we come...