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All Forum Posts by: MarieChele Porter

MarieChele Porter has started 24 posts and replied 184 times.

Post: A talk in a bar about real estate investing

MarieChele Porter
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  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 186
  • Votes 98
Originally posted by @Terry Lao:

@MarieChele Porter

Even Bradon of Bigger Pockets says that 90% of people on BP will never take action. You can call it negative, liquid, or whatever. I tend to think it is the risk factor. Everyone has their risk factor. Some have high tolerance, others low. For those that have low risk, can put in bank and get 1%. For those that have high, can play the stock market.

I like RE due to the cashfow, appreciation, and equity build up with monthly PI payments.

Terry Lao

 I have a passion for real estate as well. And unfortunately people with low/no risk tolerance sit there money in the bank and can't even get 1% more like .01% :( there's also the people who just don't know that there are other things that can be done to grow their money. That's why it's good to talk to people because you never know who could be your next private money lender...

Post: A talk in a bar about real estate investing

MarieChele Porter
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Posted
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 186
  • Votes 98
Originally posted by @Rogers Smith:

@MarieChele Porter the guy was right about lack of liquidity from a financial perspective. A real estate investment is less liquid than an investment in a publicly-traded security. But, he misses the whole point entirely that rentals are buy-and-hold investments. And you were right (in your attempt) to point out that rentals provide ongoing income, not just upon exit.

Sounds like he comes from a Wall Street or banking upbringing wherein you cannot get a good night's sleep unless you can convert your investments to cash in a nanosecond.

No worries. Less competition for the rest of us.

 Exactly and I agree with all those points. His degree was in political economy so there was probably something with that psychology as well. Like you said less competition for us all! :)

Post: A talk in a bar about real estate investing

MarieChele Porter
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  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 186
  • Votes 98
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

I have to admit that there are very few people who I've shared my passion for REI. Quite simply, because many can't afford to invest. It's more like the fox with the grapes fable. Because he couldn't reach the grapes, he said they were sour. Because they can't afford to invest.. many are struggling to make ends meet, they find many reasons why we shouldn't risk our money.

 That's true. But I have also talked to many people who are interested in investing who may not be able to afford it or think they can't afford it. I've learned a lot of the time people have money saved up that they don't think is enough, but there are so many ways of using other people's money it may be possible. I get intimidated sometimes because I think people may give me funny looks and doubt me I'm trying to get over that.

Post: Building a team in Ohio!

MarieChele Porter
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  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 186
  • Votes 98

Prices in my range, growth of millennials in the area and an ok job market.

Post: Building a team in Ohio!

MarieChele Porter
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  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 186
  • Votes 98
Originally posted by @Gwen Fyfe:

@MarieChele Porter, I used Mike Bernhardt at Wells-Fargo. He is super friendly and accessible (often answers my texts at 9 PM) and has done a lot of real estate investing himself, so he know what we're talking about.

 Thanks Gwen.

Post: A talk in a bar about real estate investing

MarieChele Porter
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Posted
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 186
  • Votes 98
Originally posted by @Jeffery Waicak:

I was in a multi level marketing company. You try to get people to join and make money off their efforts. Not everyone wanted to join. The head guy in the office said no, not everyone will join, but someone has to make my fries so that's ok. 

That said,  I think I can learn something from anyone, rich, poor,investor, renter. 

  And go cavs

 We were friends until you said go Cavs aha... But I agree with that everyone can teach you something and it would be surprising sometimes how much people know about a subject but never do work in it. Wts I agree with the previous comment and probably wouldn't take advice from someone who maybe knows a lot about real estate investing but lacks any experience in it.

Post: A talk in a bar about real estate investing

MarieChele Porter
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Posted
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 186
  • Votes 98
Originally posted by @Anthony Gayden:

@MarieChele Porter

I talk with everyone who will listen about real estate investing. However I never take advice from those who do not invest in real estate. A lot of the information they spread is garbage.

There are also a lot of people who seem to think they know all about real estate investing based on their negative experience renting out a former primary residence. I don't listen to them either. They almost always paid too much for the house, and the rent can't cover the PITI. Not only that but they put a garbage tenant in the property who ends up trashing the place. Then they go around and tell everyone how awful it is to be a landlord and that real estate investing is a waste of time.

 Exactly and not only that they are the people who are working W2 jobs (which I still am) that won't open up their minds to the idea. I like that idea tho I'll be very cautious of who I take advice from even if they are investing!

Post: A talk in a bar about real estate investing

MarieChele Porter
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Posted
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 186
  • Votes 98

Hey everyone,

I just wanted to bring up a short talk I had with someone while getting food at a bar before the warriors game. I met these 2 guys in a bar who were friends (I was by myself). They were really nice and we just began talking. Eventually, we talked about careers and I mentioned that I wanted to get into REI and day trading. What came next actually kind of shocked me. One on the guys said "well don't get into real estate investing". He began to explain to me how "iliquid" the real estate market is and gave this example of how I would just have to wait for years until I ever seen a return when the properties were sold. (Never mentioning at all the ability to receive passive income in the process). I tried to get that point in a little but with all the bar noise I kind of just gave up.

The reason I'm hoping to start a conversation about this topic is the fact that you should talk about your real estate investing ideas with anyone who will listen. The reason is you never know what your're going to hear. When I first realized the power of real estate I thought "this is crazy, this can't be real, why isn't everyone doing this?!" But instead of letting his negative feeling about real estate investing put me down or  make me not want to do real estate investing anymore it opened my eyes to the thoughts and answered my questions of why everyone isn't doing this. It made me realize that I can do this along with all the other people who are doing it because there are people out there who will just never do it and I'm sure he's not the first who I'll meet. It made me feel good about the fact that everyone doesn't want to be a real estate investor so that's 1 person who I may rent to and not compete with.

I know this is a long forum post and probably will be better off as a blog post but I don't have one yet and just wanted to start the conversation. Thanks for reading if you got this far. Maybe I will make a blog now... :)

Post: Building a team in Ohio!

MarieChele Porter
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  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 186
  • Votes 98

@James Wise Hey thanks for the info!

Post: Building a team in Ohio!

MarieChele Porter
Pro Member
Posted
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 186
  • Votes 98
Originally posted by @Daryl Anderson:

MarieChele Porter what areas are you looking at? I have a lender, Max Eble who has helped me out a lot.

 Cleveland and it's suburbs.