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All Forum Posts by: Maria Vogel

Maria Vogel has started 12 posts and replied 60 times.

Post: Cash out-on rentals

Maria VogelPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Whitefish, MT
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 11

Ok thank you!  Great feedback! I'll talk to some more lenders. 

Post: Cash out-on rentals

Maria VogelPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Whitefish, MT
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 11

Hello,

I need ideas on the best thing to do so I can purchase another rental and utilize my cash/equity wisely. 

Rental A: repo--great deal needed a lot of work. Remodeled it. I had a lot of equity so I took out a HELOC on this house for some cash.

I used the HELOC from rental A for a down payment and remodel for rental B.

Minor remodel for house B ($5k supplies did the work ourselves) and 20% downpayment. Now it would appraise/sell for about 50k more than the mortgage. I haven't owned it for a year yet. I am trying to figure out the best option for utilizing this equity and getting back the cash from my downpayment. 

I currently have about $40k from the sale of another rental and I would like to buy something else but I don't want the cash tied up again and unable to buy anything further. 

My lender tells me a cash out refinance have bad terms.  Ideas? What do the majority of you do in this situation? Do you leave your equity and downpayment in the house or generally try to re-invest it? 

Thank you for your help! This is such a wonderful site! 

Post: Trust

Maria VogelPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Whitefish, MT
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 11

Thank you! I will definitely keep looking for a lawyer I feel comfortable with. Do you remember what the approximate cost was to get it set up? 

Thanks for posting! 

Post: Financing

Maria VogelPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Whitefish, MT
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 11

I own 3 right now but one is under contract (in a town about 4 hours away with a bad rental market) I will make about $40k on this when it closes (hopefully May 7th) I want to reinvest the money but I don't want to just tie it up in something else and not be able to pull the equity out again like my other rental. I need to put together a portfolio but I haven't. I'm trying to find some samples on here...do you know of any samples I can look at? I've always gone conventional financing and HELOCs but I definitely want to explore other creative options. Any advice you have is GREATLY appreciated! 

Post: Trust

Maria VogelPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Whitefish, MT
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 11

Do you all have a Trust that owns your rental properties? I have an LLC-but have not switched the homes into the name of the LLC. I feel lost on how to do this. I have called a lawyer wanted to charge me $1200 and wouldn't even really say what he was going to do for me.

My 401k person at DA Davidson said I should have a trust in case something happens to me. I don't even know where to start. Both with moving the houses into the LLC and if I need a trust.

My CPA said I need a separate LLC for every house but then I have to file taxes for each one! That seems pretty complicated!

Post: Financing

Maria VogelPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Whitefish, MT
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 11

@Wesley Garris I am also interested. I have a few rentals but all my cash is tied up in their downpayments. I have quite a bit of equity in the homes plus the cash from my downpayment and I'd like to figure out how to utilize that to buy more rentals. Its hard to get HELOC's on rentals and refinancing with cash out-you don't get very good rates. Thoughts?

Post: Help: Funding Options & Other Decisions

Maria VogelPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Whitefish, MT
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 11

I'm kind of in the same position you are. However, I did get a HELOC on my personal home to get me started and I now have 3 rentals and have flipped one after renting it for awhile. I still feel like a newbie. I took out a HELOC's on one rental to buy the next one too (down payment and reno).

It sounds like not many investors do the HELOC thing and it is rare, but I did and its works out ok-otherwise I wouldn't have been able to do this. The problem with it is the HELOC's have variable rates so if rates go up they will also increase but right now its at like 3.5% and interest only so its a great loan.

I'm interested to see what other options people share with you. I used the HELOC on my rental to put a down payment and rehab for my newest rental. Now I have over $30k cash tied up in that house plus quite a bit of equity, so I'm trying to figure out how to get that cash out without having to do a refi cash out-(which my lender says isn't the best loan). A lot of lenders won't HELOC on a rental. I think I got lucky on the last one because my lender was my property manager and he pretty much just gave it to me with no questions asked. He's no longer there though.

I just learned this: from other investors and my own experience is if you purchase a "flip" with a mortgage (putting 20% down) then fix it up and try to flip it or refi it within the year or so it won't appraise for high enough. Reason is-appraisors mostly look at square footage and bathrooms/bedrooms etc. So if you are just doing cosmetics the appraisers are going to to look at it and think "This thing sold for $XXX only 6 months ago-sure they did some improvements but I'm only going to appraise it for $5000 more" etc. This happened to me and my mom. 

We completely gutted our house-pretty much down to the studs. It was a 1978 house with dark oak, orange carpet in the kitchen, 7 layers of wallpaper etc. We installed wood floors, new bathrooms, new kitchens with granite etc. $60k remodel minimum and refinanced it a year later and they only increased the value by $5k due to no change in square footage and bathrooms/bedrooms etc and they chose terrible comps. A year later we did another appraisal and got a better number but still not even close to what similar homes are selling for. We did a market analysis and smaller homes that are not remodeled in our neighborhood sold for quite a bit more than ours appraised for. The appraisals are kind of a joke. 

The best thing to do is to buy the house initially with cash so there's no appraisal, then get it appraised after the remodel (whether you keep it or sell it). That's what I need to do now. I'm trying to figure out how to get the cash money up front! 

Post: What's Stopping You From Investing In Multifamily Properties?

Maria VogelPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Whitefish, MT
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 11

I just found an 18 unit 2 br apartment building for sale. I calculated quick numbers using low rental income (I haven't found out how much they are renting for yet) and higher interest loans and it looks like there would be potential to make a minimum of $3000 net after taxes, insurance and mortgages. Does anyone know how to go about getting financing for something like this? 

That's my biggest obstacle. 

Post: Insurance claim during a sale

Maria VogelPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Whitefish, MT
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 11
I have a rental house I've been trying to sell off and on for many years. There was issues with the roof (shingles blowing off) so I filed an insurance claim. It's been over a month but they finally got back to me saying they would replace it but the estimate wasn't enough to fix it because they calculated we could use shingles that aren't available in this area. So I'm currently working with them to get the amount increased-who knows when they'll do that since they're working so slow. They will pay 1/3 of the price to start and the remainder upon completion. Today I got a cash offer on the home with a 14 day close-no contingencies. I've been trying to sell this place for years off and on and would love to just have it gone-I don't want the insurance issue to prevent a sale. Does anyone know how that will work with the insurance claim? A) can I sell it, not fix the roof and just take the 1/3 down and pocket the money? B) can I get complete the insurance transaction and get it fixed after its sold? I'm afraid to ask the insurance company because I don't want to mess up the claim. And I'm not sure who to ask! Any advice would be appreciated!

Post: For those who have flipped houses

Maria VogelPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Whitefish, MT
  • Posts 60
  • Votes 11

@Ubaldo M Gomez Thanks for the recommendation. I'll look! I'm just learning about wholesaling from this site. I had never heard of it before. Why do you recommend BEING a wholesaler vs USING a wholesaler?