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All Forum Posts by: Manolo D.

Manolo D. has started 45 posts and replied 4269 times.

Post: Paying a Contractor Before the Work is Done

Manolo D.#3 Contractors ContributorPosted
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  • Los Angeles, CA
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Quote from @Wendy S.:

@Bruce Woodruff

Bruce this would be good but what choices do we have when the client is buying the materials and the contractor still asks for $6,000 upfront before they start, 30% after framing is done and final upon completion or 40/30/20 and balance on completion or some other variation.

The client argues, why should I pay you on labor before you start. The contractor argues, in order to start I have to commit a team to your project and ensure I can make payroll.

Sorry, for the ops friend and piggy-backing on post.


 If no material up front, he doesn’t have any cost incurred to date, major red flag there to ask 40%. I would suggest a sign up fee no more than $1000 or no more than 10%, whichever is lower. You can decide to pay him weekly on progressed work, but that’s just a headache, maybe milestone is best protection, or at least bldg inspection sign offs if you have that.

Post: Paying a Contractor Before the Work is Done

Manolo D.#3 Contractors ContributorPosted
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Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Michael Mannino II:

No payment until the project is done! Our company will pay for materials once they are (confirmed) on the property, but the labor is not paid until it's completed and approved. We have a few crews that we have established a full spreadsheet list of every product we use and every dollar amount for labor we pay for each item (ie- to install a bathroom vanity, or price per sq ft we pay to paint the interior, etc.). This has taken out any question of what they get or when, our systems and processes take out the hassle of negotiating labor prices and payment schedule. Would love to chat more on what we do if you have any questions, please message me any time! (: 

So you get a licensed GC to pay for materials and have them delivered before he gets any money from you? I guess if I had done a lot of work for you already, that would be comfortable, but never for a new client. Not because I couldn't afford to, but I expect the client to put some $$ in the game before I trust them. It isn't about the money, it's about the trust.

There are a LOT of scammer customers out there. Not you maybe, but Contractors (especially young ones) need to be really careful. I would never do business the way you're describing...but if it works for you and your guy, then keep it up.....
I think it’s like a JOC contract, like line item bids/contracts. but i don’t believe it needs to be after the job is completed, maybe milestones or can bill for completed work. if the company does volumes, and credible, then most likely they run the show and you play by their rules, or… just go away and cater to others.

Post: Paying a Contractor Before the Work is Done

Manolo D.#3 Contractors ContributorPosted
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Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
Quote from @Eliott Elias:
Quote from @Mark S.:

@Eliott Elias So you think the contractor should front all the money for supplies, risk spending days/weeks/months on a job in the hope of getting paid? Haha good luck in hiring anyone. No they shouldn’t get 100% up front but no decent contractor is going do do an entire job, unless perhaps a very small repair, without getting something up front.


 Pay for the material directly to the supplier, never to the contractor. Especially if the relationship is new. 


You've obviously never done this. No good Contractor will allow you to go around them and buy materials (unless a really small job). 

Who picks them up, who unloads them and stores them? Or who meets the delivery truck with his crew and supervises delivery, signing off for the product? Who is responsible for their security until being installed? Who  does the owner go to when there is a defect?

No, your method never works and will only cause a multitude of issues. If you hire a Contractor, let him do everything and stay out of the way....


 He might love the headache. I’ll allow this, ill receive the materials at ground level, tell them what to buy and charge them for delays if they buy the wrong product or materials don’t arrive on time. more like time nd material contract, any issues, their fault and pay up. 😇 i might be too nice with people penny pinching. pretty sure they can’t beat my 35-65% off shelf price though, but they can spend however much money they want, not my money not my problem.

Post: Line of Credit options under corp

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Hello, long time member here but company got too busy so i didn't contribute for a while. I'm here because I found bp to be a great resource. I'm here because I am at a point where I need to find a line of credit product where a company owns (or will own in my case) a piece of asset (real estate or another) and back it as collateral for the LOC. I do prefer that this loan be solely be qualified via the company, as i have plans on the personal side in the near future.

Any advice is gladly appreciated.

Post: Hiring a General Contractor, but selecting the Subs myself

Manolo D.#3 Contractors ContributorPosted
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Quote from @Ron Hollingsworth:
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

No GC will do this, they up-charge on the sub work. If you want to hire sub contractors directly you will need a project manager to manage them. 


 that's just it.  i am NOT willing to pay them to up-charge me and then also charge me cost plus.  Not happening.


 It’s not your business, you can’t tell other people how to run theirs. How about if other people tell you how to spend your money? How would you feel about that? lol. what a joke.

Post: Newbie Investor & Eco-friendly Contractors

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@Christine Lai I’ve had great luck with calling supply houses to connect with a tradesman. Don’t think about LEED, it’s like asking for bids to do a metal gate at your house and you want their shop to be ISO certified.

Post: hiring "under the table" labor

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@Frank Maratta You dont seem to know the horrors of the contracting world. All the horrors of claims on 1099 vs employee has occurred, more than a dozen fold. We as contractors see it all the time, it’s not a pigment of an imagination, they are stories that occur day in and day out. It is not a question of IF it will happen to you, it is a question of WHEN it will happen.

Post: Merging an REI group and Remodel company

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@Matt Romme You’re overthinking it. Contractors mostly want to get a job done and move to the next. Tbh, investors are the lowest paying clients, contractors might be busy catering them, but that’s only applicable to 2 guys and a truck kinda. Other forms are just investor with a contractors license and crew. Haven’t seen a group chug on one remodel company. Not saying it’s not possible.

Post: Contractor threatening collections after unfinished work

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@Steven Wilging Your situation is very easy, you can blue tape all the poor work, give the contractor a chance to finish it (in CA, this is a requirement - to extend and exhaust all possibilities before arbitration). Ask for UNCONDITIONAL lien waivers from all his subs together with a letter certifying that all his subs are being paid, a CONDITIONAL waiver from him. Now with regards to him not finishing the job and/or correction of unfinished work, get someone to give you a price to finish/correct the remaining work, and deduct it to his contract. If the original contract is 20k and your new contractor to finish the work gives you a 5k bid, the older contractor will only get 15k. Check your bond law and call his bond company. You have an empty threat. When you file a claim, stick to the facts, not heresay, you mentioned he tried to file a claim on the insurance company from his subcon, if you don’t have proof of this, don’t even mention, ultimately, it’s his fault.

Post: Tenants supplying their own credit reports?

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@Natalie Schanne I like it, i do hate the fact that it will show up on credit report as hard inq. My credit score is spotless with 0 late payments and 1-2 hard inquiries, if I apply for a rental and they’re all hard inq, i will not be happy. Some

say they’re doing a soft inquiry, not true in some cases, makes you question why.