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All Forum Posts by: Sammy Lyon

Sammy Lyon has started 13 posts and replied 186 times.

Post: From teacher to 10 units in 10 months!

Sammy LyonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 192
  • Votes 346
Originally posted by @John Dwyer:

How did you finance 10 units in 10 months? I mean great, just curious. 

Hey John! Just posted that at the end of the thread for you :)

Post: From teacher to 10 units in 10 months!

Sammy LyonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 192
  • Votes 346
Originally posted by @Candace O.:

I work as an emergency substitute teacher and have considered getting my teaching license, but would rather do real estate.  This year I have partnered on a flip, bought a single family home out of state and started house hacking by renting out a room in my house.  I would like to know where you took courses in construction management as I hope to be more involved in flipping in the future.  Also interested in the details of how you did so many deals so fast.  TIA

Hi Candis! Tried to tag you, see the latest post for the answer to your question on details!

Construction Management was Cal State University Dominguez Hills 6 month certificate program: https://csudh.edu/ceie/construction/courses

Post: From teacher to 10 units in 10 months!

Sammy LyonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 192
  • Votes 346
Originally posted by @Renat S.:

@Sammy Lyon

You are super enthusiastic, lets see the numbers. 10 units in 10 months and you only put down for first property? That sounds too good. Let’s see the numbers and details.

Hi Renat, challenge accepted ;)

Deal #1: SFR. 20% down traditional financing. Invested $14,000.

Deal #2: SFR. JV partnership. Partner brought purchase price and renovation costs as capital contribution. My job is to do everything else, we split ownership & all operating expenses and income 50/50. Partner’s capital contribution is prioritized at sale or refinance. On operating expenses since closing I have spent $2,300 (my half of a rent ready, since we had a tenant turnover).

Deal #3: SFR. Hard money lender for purchase. Minimal repairs ~$1,000 at closing.

Deal #4: SFR. Private lender for purchase. Loan was for higher than the purchase price and is not secured only to this property, so I have been able to use some of the funds to make the repairs on deals #3 and #5.

Deal #5: Duplex. Hard money lender for purchase. Have an unexpected rent ready due to a tenant turnover after closing, so using private money for renovations and some of my reserve fund. Will refinance at higher ARV so expecting to get it back but I may end up investing ~$5,000 on the rent ready for about 30 days until the refinance closes.

Deal #6: Duplex. JV partnership. We reinvested the funds from our BRRR cash out refinance (Deal #2). This will be another BRRR.

Deal #7: Duplex. Private lender for purchase and renovations. May end up using $3,000 of my own money for going a little on the higher end of my renovation budget due to an unforeseen issue, so I’ll be going over the borrowed amount. I expect to get this back soon in the refinance since I’m doing a big reno on this one. 

So my own money has come into play twice, both times when I closed on a property and the existing tenant moved out soon after closing. Using “none” of my own money for purchases and for most of the renovations is how I have kept healthy reserves for each property, which can tide me over on a tenant turnover to make repairs until I refinance. All in all it would add up to ~$9,000 of repairs for the 9 units after the first deal, and total $23,000 for all 10 units. Except for the $14,000 from the first deal, I expect to get back most or all of the repair costs since they are BRRRs. Stay tuned for the refinances though.

I consider those "unexpected" expenses part of the normal operating expenses of a property, that are to be expected, rather than initial capital contributions for purchase and renovations. The rent readies did end up helping get me the higher appraised value too, making it easier to recoup the funds quickly through the refinance. I had budgeted for the repairs in my Capex and maintenance reserves—I just wasn't expecting to use them so soon! I don't advocate for people to buy property with no money in their reserves account, personally.

It definitely makes me want to buy more vacant properties so I can just do the repairs right when we close rather than wait around to figure out the tenant is leaving! But I guess it’s part of the stabilization process when buying a property with inherited tenants… That is one thing I am having to get used to—the slower-than-I’d-like post-closing process to get the property up and running smoothly. I have found I enjoy the deal hunt more than the asset management.. and I am definitely learning as I go!!

Post: From teacher to 10 units in 10 months!

Sammy LyonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 192
  • Votes 346
Originally posted by @Dametrius Clark:

@Sammy Lyon this is great to hear! I’m a special ed teacher in Cleveland Ohio and I’m also trying to get started with real estate. This is motivating!

Hey Dametrius - let's meet up next time I'm in Cleveland!!

Post: From teacher to 10 units in 10 months!

Sammy LyonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 192
  • Votes 346
Originally posted by @Doug Peters:

@Sammy Lyon  Congrats!  Way to go!  I hope to meet up with you again.  I met you at a local meet up near USC I think it was.  

Let's connect again!

Oh yes the South LA meetup! I love those meetups. Check the events there's a happy hour tonight in Hollywood too.

Post: From teacher to 10 units in 10 months!

Sammy LyonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 192
  • Votes 346
Originally posted by @Marco Lopez:

That's awesome. I'm an Estimator, previously a PM, for a Commercial Specialty Sub in the LA area and do residential on the side. Let's grab some beers!

Hey Marco, that sounds great!

Post: Cleveland / LA Meet Up #4

Sammy LyonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 192
  • Votes 346

Cleveland out of state investors meetup is tonight!! see you there

Post: From teacher to 10 units in 10 months!

Sammy LyonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 192
  • Votes 346
Originally posted by @Bradley Finn:

@Sammy Lyon I’m a teacher too, waiting to take action on my first deal. Feel like I trained for a marathon but dont know where the start is! Advice on getting the ball rolling out of state?

Hey Bradley fellow teacher! Advice: Research 3-5 markets and talk to a few people in each. Read articles and economic reports, census data, job trends and employers. Then pick 1 and talk to dozens of people who live there and/or invest there (BiggerPockets, etc) and ask lots of questions. Set up a visit and meet your potential new colleagues and team members and drive alllll around so you get a good feel for streets and neighborhoods

Go to lots of meetups and build relationships...ideally by then you will know so so much more and have a better  sense of your next steps!

Post: From teacher to 10 units in 10 months!

Sammy LyonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 192
  • Votes 346
Originally posted by @Craig Clinton:

Thanks for sharing.  Very inspirational.  Question:  who is the author of Your Money Or Your Life?  I found multiple authors with the same titled book.

Vicki Robin and Joe Dominguez! 

Post: From teacher to 10 units in 10 months!

Sammy LyonPosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 192
  • Votes 346
Originally posted by @Lisa Rodriguez:

In the spring Sammy responded to a post I wrote. I had not purchased a property yet, but was eager. Since then, Sammy has been nothing short of amazing. We are both investing in the same market, and he has walked me through every step of the process. I could not be where I am today (getting ready to close on my first SF) if it was not for Sammy. He has literally taken me by the hand and shared every experience, every connection, every piece of information that he has with me. I am forever grateful for Sammy, he has helped me turn a dream into reality. I look forward to watching him grow on many levels. Keep your eyes out for Sammy, he is one of a kind and will continue to do great things!

Lisa - it’s been so fun to get to know you and be on our RE journeys together! I’m so excited for your first deal closing soon and am always happy to help in whatever small way I can, from just a couple steps ahead.

We have to help each other out!