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All Forum Posts by: Lu Kang

Lu Kang has started 0 posts and replied 25 times.

Post: Rise48 Preferred Equity Fund / Capital Call?

Lu KangPosted
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  • Lafayette Hill, PA
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 23

Thanks for sharing, saw some of the webinar from the wallstreetoasis link.

Curious how they communciated this to the original investors, cause them seemed to infur on the webinar that the 18% is such a great deal and better then what we would have offered the original investors. With most of the investors buying in 2021/ 2022, doesn't seem like a consistent message. 

Post: REI Nation Property #4 - 7320 Marrs, TX - Thanks REI Nation!

Lu KangPosted
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  • Lafayette Hill, PA
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  • Votes 23
Quote from @Christopher Stevens:
Quote from @Lu Kang:

Hi Christopher,

Now that you are approaching one year with your Dallas property, have you gotten updates on new insurance / property tax rates.


I had a similar experience with my place down in Ark. The carrying costs are low, but tenant was making partial payments by month 2. That's the other challenge that i've learned, with only one month as SD, if the tenant leaves even in a relatively new build the fees add up. 

My Dallas property has been one of my best investments, but it's only been about 9 months. Rent is always on time, and things have been going well. It only has positive cash flow due to concessions by the seller that will last about 2 years.

Property values have seemed to drop in that area, so I'm doing something different by requesting a reassessment of my property taxes. If all goes well, my monthly payments could drop about $60 from a tax reassessment in about six months. So, there's more than one way to create more cash flow than refinancing:-). 

Regarding my AR properties, I, too, have had some significant challenges over the past 12 months with Arkansas renters. I have three properties in AR now, and as of about four months ago, two of them were vacant despite having two-year contracts on the properties. One was evicted after about five months and three months of working with the tenant on rent delays, and the other walked away after about three months in the property and got behind for two months. Then, both needed about $5,000-$10,000 each in repairs and cleanup.

Even with low rents in those areas, renters struggle to pay $995/month on one property and $1,095/month on another. These are lovely single-family homes. It's only been a few months, so hopefully, they will get better at paying rent on time, but they make partial or late payments nearly every month. This seems strange since PPMG (my property management company) is vetting these renters. PPMG claims "...an average length of stay of 5.3 years...", it would take a long time for all my tenants to stay in my homes to get to a 5.3-year average. Of course, it's only an average, so it seems I had some bad luck so far.

My subsequent purchases will be in better areas and will be newer homes. I'm still learning, but I'm glad I started investing in more real estate. In another 5-10 years, I'm confident I'll be happy purchasing more real estate. 

 Hi Christopher,

Thanks for the update. Best of luck with the appeals, while PPMG handles all the day to day, we can do we can to limit expenses on our end. It's also nice that they have their own recommended insurer, those rates are much lower then what I would pay up in the northeast. 

I agree with your approach in aiming for better locations, seems that texas (dallas /FT worth) fits the bill. Until the rates come down to refinance, the key for us is to limit the amount of turnover at the properties. 5K to 10K in rehab basically eats away at several years of cashflow. If anything, when we plug in the details per the calculator we def have to put in higher then the estimiated 3% maintenance costs. 

I also did notice the REI had some newer builds in Ward, AR but those seemed be sold quickly. If recall the prices and rent out were a bit challenging too. Hopefully with the upcoming rental market you will get better vetted tenants in AR.

Post: REI Nation Property #4 - 7320 Marrs, TX - Thanks REI Nation!

Lu KangPosted
  • Investor
  • Lafayette Hill, PA
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 23

Hi Christopher,

Now that you are approaching one year with your Dallas property, have you gotten updates on new insurance / property tax rates.


I had a similar experience with my place down in Ark. The carrying costs are low, but tenant was making partial payments by month 2. That's the other challenge that i've learned, with only one month as SD, if the tenant leaves even in a relatively new build the fees add up. 

Post: 5 Years with REI Nation: Convenience Over Cash Flow

Lu KangPosted
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  • Lafayette Hill, PA
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  • Votes 23

@Jay Hinrichs

100%. 

These days all investors need to have more realistic expectations. Gone are the days prior to 2019 where I as a complete newbie could buy and get instant equity, use financing at sub 5% and still cash flow while maintaining a reserve balance. If anything it just means that initial newbie tax / buffer is going away. 

Post: 5 Years with REI Nation: Convenience Over Cash Flow

Lu KangPosted
  • Investor
  • Lafayette Hill, PA
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 23

@David B. Glad you have had success and continue to do well with your portfolio

@Chris Lin  Sorry to hear about your place, hoping you get resolution to your issues.

I bought two places with REI in 2024, one in Huntsville and one in Little Rock. The process of buying, getting a loan and settling to closing was extremely smooth. They also have blanket insurance coverage which is much lower then policies in Philadelphia. Part of the allure was the holding fees (insurance / property were several thousand less then up north)

After one year, my Huntsville tenant had to move out early for a job relocation. They ended their lease early. REI has processes in place so portion of the Security Deposit/ missing rent had to be covered by tenant. Even with that, I had vacancy for 3 months, turnover expenses (rekeying, deep cleaning, etc), paying the one month lease to find a new tenant and also the new tenants are in at a lower rental rate then the prior tenants. (1500 to 1350)

My Little Rock tenant has been paying but already slightly behind. I'll have to reach out to my advisor to get an further update. Was told initially it was a banking issue, but we will see what the latest is . I have been getting updates / communcation on my properties, but also after one year I'm on my third service advisor due to internal org changes. 

My conclusion is that take the provided ROI calculations from REI as purely estimates. Having a problem tenant and dealing with eviction could happen in any market. Know the reason why you are investing. I knew for me this wasn't going to have instant cashflow especially when buying a turnkey and in 2024. Longterm I believe this will work out, but also can't provide a full picture after only holding for one year.

Post: Decided to focus on investing in Philadelphia

Lu KangPosted
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  • Lafayette Hill, PA
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Quote from @Sudhir N.:

Hi Stuart - My investments (primarily multifamily dwellings) are just outside of Temple's student housing zone, near Girard. I don't get the student population at all. My tenants are professionals for the most part. Yet, I have seen absolutely no rent or property appreciation. In fact my average rent/unit is exactly what it was 5 years ago. Philly has seen no meaningful population growth in the last decade or so. In fact the population has only declined in the last few years. It's not a Miami or Austin or what Seattle once was by any stretch of imagination. There is a never ending supply of new construction units as well. Often it takes one desperate investor/ owner to drop the rent by a few hundred $ to get the ripple effect going. Property assessments are out of whack. Tradesmen charge as if it is the most expensive city in the world. My investment goals are modest (say, 9-10% IRR over a 7 yr period) and I am convinced Philly will not generate that. I am very data driven and I simply don't see Philly as an attractive destination unless you are -- local, hands on, DIY, don't have prop mgmt expenses, don't pay leasing commissions, get preferred rates from lenders, know a guy who does handyman work, etc. There could be a very few pockets like you describe, but that's like less than 10% of the city. I have 7 years of data from multiple properties and pore over a ton of new listings literally every day and I don't see a pathway to rental investing success in Philly.


 I actually looked at quite a few of these around temple. Also curious based on the rent rolls, but as you stated, when new the rents were high but as your multi gets older the rents drop due to more competition. Those really made more sense for someone who could be more local and then find own tenants, cause college students / young professionals seem to turnover more quickly. 

If you are remote, tenant turnover is a killer. When I was starting in 2010's, Philly had the advantage vs the suburbs due to the lower property tax vs the suburb tax. But now the taxes are also higher as without good schools, you don't get the super appreciation vs having a suburban house. 

Post: Decided to focus on investing in Philadelphia

Lu KangPosted
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  • Lafayette Hill, PA
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Insurance companies have any begun to charge more for Philly row homes, and the property assessment continues to increase year after year. 


It really depends if you can get a great deal on the purchase price, and yes adding value seems to be the smartest play. 


Back in the late 2010's, Philly had potentially due to the low tax vs the comparable rent. But now it seems taxes have increased, additional government fees, ie lead testing for any property built prior to 2017, and also increases in sewer / water rates. Philly also has 2% transfer tax, vs 1% across the other parts of PA

Other factors like the current investor loans charging at 8%. Not to say it can't be done, but it will be a uphill battle. 

Quote from @Melanie P.:

@Lu Kang Thanks for sharing your opinion, which you go on to acknowledge is based on zero experience. Guess that sales rep caught you by the tail. :eyeroll: Please come back and let us know how your gambling with an investment tout turns out.


Thanks for the vote of confidence in my investments :) . 

Hoping to keep things cordial and keep away from the personal attacks but I estimated wrong. 

Quote from @Melanie P.:

@Brian Adams To be clear I'm referring to those GPs who use BP for lead generation

The reason I know this is simple. This forum is a honeypot of people new to real estate, who would like to make money at real estate, with the least effort possible. Sounds perfectly tailored to most syndicator's pitch, no?

If they were one of "the good guys" they would not take money from investors when they know they have zero real estate experience, cannot evaluate the risks presented by the investment or flat out say they are looking for a SAFE income producing investment. 

Syndications are only suitable to players who have experience with deep due diligence, basic understanding of fraud prevention/detection techniques and enough real estate experience to understand the market, macro economy and how those factors will impact the investment. 

There was a guy here who described this as his number one lead source for investor money on multiple podcasts. I won't call him a GP because I never could verify that he was a GP in any syndication, ever. He would post continuously "conversation starter" type posts to pose as "the expert investor." He started attacking me for being down on syndication investments, going post to post of mine with a snarky comment. In under an hour I discovered that his company didn't close several transactions he claimed to have closed. Where there's smoke there's fire and upon additional diligence found his company didn't syndicate the deals they claimed and was operating what amounts to an unlicensed broker-dealer business. Investors sent him money and he made an LP investment in another syndicator's fund. He's gone from here but still working other lead sources. The companies he was bundling for failed to report equity compensation he received in their SEC filings. The law moves slowly but it will catch up to this sort of conduct. 

What percentage of investors do you think check to see who actually owns the properties touted before sending money? How about verifying that ownership leads back to the person they're sending their money to? How many new investors would know it's as simple as address lookup -> tax rolls (check transfer date and purchase price matches marketing materials) -> EDGAR (verify filing made by owner-entity) -> state corporate lookup (verify the partnership entity leads back to the person who sold interests in it.

You bring up some valuable points and truthfully I didn't do any of the steps you mentioned in last paragraph. But I also believe you are pointing out to extreme situations that hopefully with the information provided can be avoided. 

In my opinion, syndications are just a way for investors to pool into larger deals especially apartments, which offer more consistency but less upside. Yes you give up control, but I don't see the issue since I'm not an expert at managing an apartment nor do I seek to be one now. Even if the hold period is longer,  I would argue you would need similar timeline if you invested today in single family homes , stocks or generally any other type of investment. End of the day, you usually lose money when you sale at bad times and just likely you gain money when you score a good deal. 

Thanks for sharing your view points, at the end of the day investing carries risk. It's up to each investor to gauge how much they want to take on and how much effort they want to do it in.  










Hi Forest. 

My personal experience is two short to give a full answer as the funds I've invested in have not gone full cycle. I've got into Apartment syndications in 2020, one fund I found via Biggerpockets and several others that I've learned after I joined the PI club. 

The best part of the club is the information I've learned about these investments. Allowed me to make a more informed decision versus just relying on the marketing materials from the syndicator. 

In terms of results, as you can imagine the current environment is not great for syndicators. I do note, none of my funds have required any capital calls. If anything the timeline of the hold increased a few years. Luckily most of them are locked in fixed rate loans which gives both the syndicator and investor more leeway and time. 

I would like to hope that everything works out, but right now its mostly a waiting game. I did know coming into these, that it would be a longer hold and my goal would be to increase investments year over year, almost like DCA into syndications. 

Best of Luck