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All Forum Posts by: Lorenzo L.

Lorenzo L. has started 12 posts and replied 38 times.

Hello,

I am graduating soon and I have the opportunity to either stay in Boston or Miami. My overall goal for my professional career is to start an investment firm and own a big multifamily portfolio and get into development. Personally, i dont have any family here in Boston, just college friends, who will graduate and go to different places or back home. Professionally, i have my license and already started to build some relationships. In Miami, i have my family and also have great opportunities to build a career there from my parents relationships.

Now, im not sure if when i graduate, go to Miami where my family is and start from scratch or if i should stay here in boston and continue building relationships to be much ahead when i graduate.

What do you guys think?

Post: First Single-Family Fix and Flip at 21 (NEED ADVICE)

Lorenzo L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17

Hello all,

I'm looking to do my first single family fix and flip in the Greater Boston/Worcester area. I am reaching out to experienced flippers to help me make the process as smooth as possible. 

Can someone provide me a fully detailed cost plan of every single item that I will need to pay when doing a fix and flip. In terms of, acquisition costs, holding costs, renovation costs, and selling costs.

I want to be able to minimize risk and not be surprised when some other cost comes by.

Right now, this is what i've got:

Acquisition costs:

1. Purchase Price
2. Earnest Money Deposit 
3. Home Inspection Fee
4. Appraisal Fee
5. Title Search Fee
6. Loan Origination Fee
7. Homeowner's Insurance
8. Escrow Account Setup
9. Transfer Taxes
10. Title Insurance
11. Recording Fee
12. Attorney Fee

Holding Costs:
1.Loan Interest Payment
2. Property Taxes
3. Property Insurance
4. Utilities


I'm looking for help on the renovation costs and selling costs.

Thank you!

Post: If I'm good at finding buyers, is this a monetizable skill?

Lorenzo L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17

Hello all, 

I'm just wondering, i really struggle to find off-market deals but I am good at finding buyers/investors. Is there any way I could monetize this? Maybe partner with wholesalers and bring them buyers?

Post: Buying my first property (NEED ADVICE)

Lorenzo L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Tyler Munroe:

@Lorenzo L. good on you for getting into RE investing in college! I think a lot of us on here wish they got started that early, I sure do. Lot of great info on this thread so hopefully you can see how networking can supercharge your investing career (also something I wish I started earlier, ha). 

I've been investing in the immediate Boston area since 2013 and can verify that it is insanely hard to find deals that pencil. I find it hard to believe that investors are actually buying negative cash flow deals, but they are and then banking on appreciation. There are also a lot of foreign investors looking to park cash since US real estate is considered very safe on a global scale. Regardless, just because these properties are trading doesn't mean they're good investments for your aims, so just focus on the numbers you need and keep on keeping on.

One piece of advice is to maybe ease off direct to seller marketing and focus on networking with wholesalers and agents. That way when a deal is brought to you, you know the seller actually wants to sell. I've done a lot of DTS marketing and found that almost all my leads were either tire kickers or if they actually wanted to sell, the property had so many entanglements (multiple family members involved, tons of debt on it, municipal liens, etc.) it wouldn't even be worth it. Can waste a ton of time, money, and effort on this which could be used more effectively evaluating deals, strategies, and markets where you can find returns.

Good luck and feel free to connect if you'd like to chat more about it!


 Thank you for the feedback Tyler.

Where can I find wholesalers to work with?

Also how many should I aim to work with in terms of:
- How many brokers
- How many wholesalers
- And in terms of DTS , how many cold calls a day

Thanks again

Post: Buying my first property (NEED ADVICE)

Lorenzo L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17
Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Andrew W.:
Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Charles Carillo:

@Lorenzo L.

The investors buying these properties could pay cash and make that 5.3% return. They could also be losing money in the short term while value-adding the property (before they can increase rents and NOI).


 This is how. And before someone says just keep it in a HYSA. A HYSA pays 4.5-5%(before rates went down) pre-tax, 3% net tax if you're a high earner. 

When I keep money in my HYSA, I make cash. When I buy property, I am long assets. 

I would rather buy the house at 5.3% cap rate than keep it in the HYSA. Obviously, I want higher so value add or re-finance as things happen I can always own the option. If it's a good asset(meaning primarily good location), you eat the 5.3% cap no problem you own the physical asset. When rates re-trace and other folks start trying to deploy the capital, I want to know I secured the (right) asset.

Right now real estate is a different ball game. For 95-99% of folks, right now nothing is happening. It's a stalemate due to affordability and either wages or prices give, I would bet the latter. 

I agree it’s a stalemate right now but in addition to the affordability, the issue is that it’s easy to make 5% (after tax) in the stock market, and has been for several years.  When you can get a similar if not better return on municipal bonds, after tax, it’s a problem.  The issue is the use of capital to buy a multi family for all cash only to receive a cap rate of 5.3%.  Yes you also get appreciation, but when a total stock market index like  (IVV) returns 30% over the last year and 90% over the last 5, I have a hard time advising someone to buy a property for all cash to receive 5.3% along with the risk, property mgmt etc.  that’s why leverage in real estate is a beautiful thing.  If you leverage, the analysis is much different.  And since the numbers don’t pencil out leveraging certain multi family at this time, back to the stalemate.  
.  

 Leverage is a beautiful thing, but also a dicey one. If I can grab a quality location, 5.3 cap all cash right now I do it. The re-leverage aspect is now at my opportunity. Right now, I concern myself with the quality asset. How I cash flow it, how I leverage it, I can worry about to what's the most opportunistic. 

The equity market is a fine comparison, but the reality is if you think every 5 years you're net return will be 90%(not sure if this is pre or post tax) then you can choose that route but you have to mark it to that return annually which is a reach. I'm well diversified in equities, I think the scarcity game of physical real estate then add in the premium which is location will give me a higher yield in the 10-20 year mark and that's my timeline. 

Ideally, you sit back on all assets levered at 20-40% and real estate possibly up to 60%, ideally not north of 40%. Keep your equities levered at 20%(half high vol, 1/4 low vol, 1/4 basic indices) and keep your phys/hard assets levered at 40%. The additional cash you have due to leverage put into more hard assets and the cash flow generated put into fixed income/equities after reserves. It's all going to be a long & quality game. The point of entering it is almost futile, the idea is to acquire it. 

Yes, I ment cash flow.

So if I give you a turnkey, fully tenanted property in a great location at a 5.5-6 cap, buy it all cash, would you take it?

Post: Buying my first property (NEED ADVICE)

Lorenzo L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17

@Warren Lizo @Drew Sygit @Dan H. @V.G Jason

Thanks for the feedback.

My question is , I understand that some people would buy at a 5 cap but if they are getting leverage, are they just going to lose money until rates go down?

I guess its a bad example, this was a turnkey, fully rented 4 unit, and I understand valuations are based on comps not caps but the owner laughed when i gave him a low offer and showed me a list of 3 properties he sold at around that 5.3 cap in the last few months.

Im guessing then, that right now I should try to find 5-10 units that I can BRRRR?

Post: Buying my first property (NEED ADVICE)

Lorenzo L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Lorenzo L.:
Quote from @Robby Sanchez:
Quote from @Lorenzo L.:

Hello all,

I am trying to do my first deal/buy my first MF property but I haven't been able to move the needle.

I am focusing on Small MF (2-4 units), with a value-add strategy. I have been cold calling direct-to-seller and working with brokers to find deals.

I don't understand how properties, in East Boston, for example, are trading at around 5.3 cap when rates are around 6.5%. I was cold calling an off market property and the guy laughed at me because I asked if he would take somewhere around an 8 cap (obviously i didnt say this, I gave him a ballpark number) and he shared with me that these properties are trading at 5.3 cap. I just dont understand how people are buying at such low caps ? Aren't they losing money? Can someone please explain how transactions are being made? (other than the seller financing stuff because I've asked and nobody seems to be interested)


 Have you thought about doing a house hack?

Yep, will do that when I graduate, I am in college still and don't have a W2.
I got about 1 more year so I want to do a flip at least.

Post: Buying my first property (NEED ADVICE)

Lorenzo L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Robby Sanchez:
Quote from @Lorenzo L.:

Hello all,

I am trying to do my first deal/buy my first MF property but I haven't been able to move the needle.

I am focusing on Small MF (2-4 units), with a value-add strategy. I have been cold calling direct-to-seller and working with brokers to find deals.

I don't understand how properties, in East Boston, for example, are trading at around 5.3 cap when rates are around 6.5%. I was cold calling an off market property and the guy laughed at me because I asked if he would take somewhere around an 8 cap (obviously i didnt say this, I gave him a ballpark number) and he shared with me that these properties are trading at 5.3 cap. I just dont understand how people are buying at such low caps ? Aren't they losing money? Can someone please explain how transactions are being made? (other than the seller financing stuff because I've asked and nobody seems to be interested)


 Have you thought about doing a house hack?

Yep, will do that when I graduate, I am in college still and don't have a W2.

Post: Buying my first property (NEED ADVICE)

Lorenzo L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Rafael Ramos:

Hello Lorenzo,

I’am with you 100%… i live in florida and been looking for multifamily all year long and the same issue here. When you do the math you actually loose if you finance. The only option is to purchase cash and at that point it makes no sense due to the fact that a HYSA account or CD can pay you the same interest rate without having to deal with property management. I am curious to see what others say, but I am completely with you on this. I even considered the option of just purchasing 1-2 single family homes per year and growing that way as there is less risks of tying up all capital in 1 property


Yea, its rough right now. Glad im not the only one. 

What would be the plan for the SFH? Buy it and rent it out?

Post: Buying my first property (NEED ADVICE)

Lorenzo L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Charles Carillo:

@Lorenzo L.

The investors buying these properties could pay cash and make that 5.3% return. They could also be losing money in the short term while value-adding the property (before they can increase rents and NOI).


 So its probably a hard time to start out?