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All Forum Posts by: L. Brown

L. Brown has started 22 posts and replied 66 times.

@Simmy Ahluwalia it will be an investment (rental) property

I have a friend who wants to sell his home and buy another home out of state. He is open to selling it to me as an off market deal. He wants $375k for it. Based on my numbers, using traditional mortgage, I will breakeven (income=PITI,expenses, cap ex, etc) if I buy at $285k. I got him down to $330k. I spoke to him more and found out he needs $120k proceeds from the sale of his current house to go towards the purchase of his new home.

I am trying to come up with some creative financing to make a deal. One thought I had was to give him $120k cash and then assume the mortgage on the house. The issue is I’m not sure if I can assume the mortgage if I plan to use the house as an investment property (the house is currently his primary residence).

I welcome any other ideas, thoughts and suggestions!

Post: Overly competitive market- need help

L. BrownPosted
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Quote from @Michael Glunk:


-Look at properties that were listed and taken off the market. Reach out to these owners (or have your realtor reach out).

@Michael Glunk- following up on one of your ideas- how do I find properties that were listed and then removed?

Post: Overly competitive market- need help

L. BrownPosted
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Quote from @Michael Glunk:

Everyone has listed great points. Double-clicking on a few of those points and adding a few more...

- Look for properties that have been on the market for a while like @Carlos Ptriawan mentions. 

-Look at properties that were listed and taken off the market. Reach out to these owners (or have your realtor reach out).

- You might consider sending direct mail. You can go and buy lists and whatnot, but based on what I understand your approach to be, I would research properties that are interesting to you. Do some drive-bys. Get the addresss. Look up the owner information on the county website for that location. And reach out to them! Properties that might need some work or look like no one has been there in a while or have been owned by the current owners for a while or just properties you like (you never know the owners situation!) and send them a letter. This can be cumbersome, but if you are only doing a few, it's not bad. And I have found about a 30% response rate with handwritten and/or typed and then a personal note and signature on these letters. I always ask for a response back even if they aren't interested again so I know their interest or lack there of. And so I know they got it and I stop bugging them. And I provide phone, email, and address so they have options to reach me. Again, not an approach for mass mailings.

- Reach out to wholesalers and tell them what you are looking for. Not every property a wholesaler finds needs a gut reno. You might get lucky here.

Don't forget to remind yourself that you are doing awesome! You've already purchased a property that seems to be working for you, it just feels a little inconvenient right now. Get comfortable inconveniencing yourself. Most people don't want to do this and this factor alone stops many people from starting or continuing to invest in real estate. It will pay off in the long run!

 @Michael Glunk- Awesome advice, many of the things you mention I haven't done, and am more than willing to try. Thanks!

Post: Overly competitive market- need help

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 @Carlos Ptriawan - Great idea, hadn't thought of that!

Post: Overly competitive market- need help

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Thanks for your advice, Benjamin. Yes, I can certainly hold on with living in the attic- at the end of the day, I have a roof over my head, running water, and temperature control. Just not happy with my living situation. I'm unhappy, but it's not death. :-)

At first I was looking for duplexes or more but I was getting beat out on numerous bids so recently I switched to looking for single family houses that I would live in and rent out if/when the market got better, just so I could have some more space. Maybe I'll rethink what I am looking for.

Post: Overly competitive market- need help

L. BrownPosted
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Quote from @Joe Villeneuve:

First, there is no such thing as an "overly competitive market".  When you encounter a market/property where there are many, many offers that end up raising the end purchase price to a number much higher than you thought it would (or higher than what it should have been), all you di was run into a group of buyers that are focused on the property and not the deal.  They did you a favor.

Learn how to design offers into deals (strategies).  Learn how to analyze markets (based on dollars, not school systems, etc...) not properties, and instead of looking for deals, look for opportunities.  You won't find an "overly competitive market" there because you're the only one that knows how to buy there.

The best "deals" are generated from opportunities.  They are not just "found".  What you've experienced is just one reason why.  All deals are made up of two things:

1 - Minimum cost to the REI. The only cost to the REI is the cash they put in, so this starts with the smallest DP possible, and positive CF.
2 - The terms where someone/something else pays for the rest.

How you design those two things are based on the strategies you develop over time, an in depth understanding of math (geometry and algebra) as it applies to money, and your ability to correctly (mathematically) analyze markets. That's it.


Joe, thanks for your reply. I'd love to dig deeper on some of your points. Can you explain what you mean when you write "learn how to design offers into deals". Specifically, what is the difference between an "offer" and a "deal"? 

Also, how does one analyze markets (instead of properties)? What is the difference between looking for deals vs. looking for opportunities? Specific examples are welcomed.

Lastly, you mentioned it's important to develop strategies that lends itself to minimum cost to the REI and terms where someone else pays. Can you suggest some of these strategies?

I'd love to consider your comments in the context of clear action items/steps. 

Post: Overly competitive market- need help

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Quote from @Dylan Speer:

Have you considered 1031 exchanging into a DST? Or other syndications? Those will remove the competition and provide consistent cash flow and growth.


Dylan, I am familar with 1031 exchanges, but have never heard of a DST. I will look more into this and follow up. Thanks for the suggestion!

Post: Overly competitive market- need help

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Hello BP,

I really need some advice. I bought my first duplex in 2020, where I rent out the larger part of the house and live in the attic apartment. The plan was to live in it for a year and buy another investment property (a duplex or higher that I would live in). High rocketing home prices, increases in the mortgage rates and insane competition has kept me from buying my next property. Living in the attic apartment was ok for 1 year but we are not into year 3 and I can't take it anymore. 

At first I wanted to buy close to where I live, but it's a high cost of living area and I would consistently get beat out by people offering way over asking/market and/or cash buyers. So I decided maybe I would look farther out, but alas, the same experience. The last property I looked at had 25+ offers and was under contract a few days after being listed. I am somewhat surprised as I thought the high interest rates would keep some from buying. I guess not.

 I admit, I'm pretty frustrated and not sure how to move forward. I would welcome any suggestions you may have.

Post: Home reno to increase rent

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Hey BP, I currently have a house that I rent out but would like to remove the current tenants, renovate the basement (by adding a bedroom) to re-rent the house at a higher price. This is my first time doing this, any would love recommendations on resources about how to do this, ie. how to budget for the renovations, how much to increase the rent by, cost/benefit to see if it’s worth it, etc.