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All Forum Posts by: Logan Tolson

Logan Tolson has started 2 posts and replied 6 times.

Post: Negotiating off market deals

Logan TolsonPosted
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I own two duplexes right next to each other and know the market I am in very well. For the first time I am going to start knocking on some doors that are own occupied duplexes in the area. Obviously if possible I would like to keep all my rentals in a similar area because it makes them much easier to manage.

My question is what are some tips and tricks you use to talk them into/see if they're willing to sell. When it comes to the purchase price of the property do you ask them what they would be interested in receiving or do you give them an offer first? Also when giving the seller an offer, particularly a low one, how do you justify it, respectfully, to them and get them to lower? After all, I am the one that brought up the idea of purchasing their property. Is there a particular script that you use or sayings that get your ideas across and both the seller and buyer moving to a close. 

Any advise is much appreciated, thank you!

@Douglas Spence I have not reached out to any local lenders in my area. I know in really dropping the ball. If anyone knows any good ones in the Akron OH market I would appreciate it! But I will contact the lender I used last time and see if we can work with the out dated breaker boxes. Thank you!

I am looking at a property with federal pacific breaker boxes. My question is will a lender do a conventional loan on a property with those breaker boxes considering there was a lawsuit for them burning houses down. Also what are the other minimum requirement for lenders when it comes to a conventional loan on a property. Thank you.

Post: How/When do I purchase my second property?

Logan TolsonPosted
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@Jake Arnold I use a realtor and found my deals on the MLS so far. I look for properties myself though through a realtor. One important thing is I dont expect my realtor to find me a good deal. I'm the one finding them. I need a realtor that answers her phone right away when I call and handles anything I need handled because I work full time. So she works out for me.

Post: How/When do I purchase my second property?

Logan TolsonPosted
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@Jake Arnold I live in Ohio. I'm investing in a C area because price to rent is very good. My primary residence duplex I bought for 80k and rents for 600 a side. The duplex im signing for tomorrow i bought for 106k and will rent for $700 a side. So the numbers really work out where I'm at. They are also 50 ft away from each other.

Post: How/When do I purchase my second property?

Logan TolsonPosted
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I bought my first property 6 months ago with an FHA mortgage with 3.5% down, used a 401k loan to do some renovations to increase rental values. I did a majority of the work myself to cut down costs and do the property management. I am now closing on my second property this Friday with an investment loan 25% down. I cash flow on my first duplex an amount I am comfortable with and I will cash flow a comfortable amount with this other duplex. So the question to ask yourself is what reserves are you comfortable with? What level of risk are you comfortable with? We make a similar wage and with 0% occupancy I can swing both mortgages so I personally feel very comfortable. I am 24 so I am okay with failing. We have time on our side.

Money for your next property could come from a 401k if you have one to tap into. If you have a roth ira it is to my understanding you can withdraw what you have contributed to it, just not the gains. You can always ask family for low interest loans. 

As for are you ready for another property? That's up to you. I truly believe success is through massive action. I go to work and I come home and work. Work can be painting my side of the duplex or through self education. A lot of my self education is through bigger pockets pod casts, seeing different perspectives how others are doing things. Listening to audio books during work. Educate yourself constantly!

As you probably already know the bigger pockets calculator you can use to analyze your deals. Look for deal killers like higher than expected taxes, or owner paid water sewer bills need factored in. Look at what the market is paying for in rent what your buying. I look for some simple value add. No rentals in my area offer washer dryer hook ups or air conditioning. Those were two things I added right away in my first duplex and I boosted rental income by 25%. Closing on this next property I will be able to do the same thing, add washer dryer hook ups and add air conditioning. Yes I am adding to my expenses, so factor that in. Also I make sure that if I spend $5000 adding these said things then I need to be getting at least a 10% return on that through rental income. Lastly, to my surprise, when I was showing my property, people were surprised on how beautiful my property was. I didn't fix any of the blemishes on the walls. I painted the walls a neutral color and painted the trim and doors white covering the old dated wood trim. Something as simple as new paint makes me stand out in my market. Take that all in account when you are looking for deals and what's your market isn't offering and what you can offer?

I have not done any direct mail marketing so I cant speak on that but If you do go that route I would definitely be sure to have the cash readily available to make moves.

I am definitely interested in what others have to say because we make a similar income and are similar in age, both working on our second property.