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All Forum Posts by: Logan Lambert

Logan Lambert has started 2 posts and replied 96 times.

Post: Four Unit Multi-family, Owner Occupied Investment, Loan Interest Rate Question

Logan Lambert
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  • Kingsville, MD
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Michael Allen:

Hey everyone!

I'm not new to purchasing properties, but this will only be the second property I've ever purchased and the first in this new area. My first property was a Single-Family home right before the pandemic in late 2018. 

I've gone through the process of shopping out a loan for the property and it was decided that I'd go with a loan originator who initially told me the interest rate would be anywhere from 5.5-6%. Now I'm being told that the interest rate is more realistically going to be 7.125-7.6%, which makes the purchase significantly less desirable.

So my question: Is 7.125% market rate or is this something I should be looking into?

Necessary Stats:

Credit Score: 740+
Loan Type/Amount: Conventional/$320K
Projected Income: $3100 (including me paying myself rent)
Down Payment: 5%

Let me know if there is extra info needed and thanks ahead of time for any advice that is offered!




 Hey,

I am not sure where the conventional rates fall in your market but I originate DSCR loans and that rate is closer to where we would be on our side.

Post: Purchased property listed and sold as a triplex just found out from city it is a SFH

Logan Lambert
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  • Lender
  • Kingsville, MD
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Karin Recalde:

Purchased a property that was listed by sellers agent on Zillow realtor.com etc as triplex with rents listed etc. my realtor verified the rents, as it has been rented as a triplex for 25+ years, worked with both my realtor and listing agent through the sale. Spent a few months and about 40k rehab and was just told by the city it's not a triplex, or even a duplex but a SFH. Located in Kansas.
anyone been through this and/or suggestions on what to do? 


 Super sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, your only option is to apply to get it re-zoned. Just curios, were you trying to refinance it and that is when you discovered it is not an actual triplex?

Post: If You Never Want To Hear About Columbus In the Forums Again, Reply Here

Logan Lambert
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  • Kingsville, MD
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

Do you feel continuously assaulted by the Columbus Mafia on BiggerPockets?

If any newbie utters the word Columbus, Midwest, or Ohio, the entire brokerage descends upon the forums with post after post. It's absolute madness. I believe this behavior also goes over the DMs.

In the beginning, it was funny. Now, it is spammy. If you read the majority of the replies by the Columbus Mafia, it's only about Columbus or the general area. Some of the responders know more than others, but some are just complete spammers. It's a strategy.

I've been answering questions on BiggerPockets for 10 years and never once asked for business or DM'd for business. People find me because I answer questions, sometimes about the area, most of the time about investing. If we built a spreadsheet of the overall responses from the Mafia and how many were veiled attempts at business, I would bet it is close to 80 percent.

I know I am not the only one annoyed every day, so please post your thoughts here so BiggerPockets can review them.

I do know someone who bought multiple properties with a former Mafia member and the properties are still performing so this isn't a referenda on how good the agents are. I have not personally worked with them. What this is about is the constant and unabashed spam sham on every post that mentions anything even close to Ohio. Like maybe just round robin it, bros. Watching you all post after each other is embarrassing.


 I originate loans all across the country and almost everyone I spoke with that is out of the country and looking to invest in the states is looking in Ohio lol. 

Post: Thoughts on Using DSCR Loans

Logan Lambert
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  • Lender
  • Kingsville, MD
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Connor Hibbs:

Hi Deborah, I'd be happy to answer some of your questions on DSCR loans as I've been originating them for a while.

1. The approval process is much less intensive than it would be for a conventional loan as the DSCR loan is low doc and will primarily be based off the cash flow of the property and your FICO Score. Most Lenders will want to see that the property does cash flow well (typically over a 1 and 1.2+ for 5+unit properties), is the property itself a match for that lender's guidelines (rural? min property requirements, state they lend),does the borrower have enough liquidity to close on the loan (liquid assets, not DTI and no need for tax returns).

2. Most common you will see the following for MAX LTV; 80% on purchase, 80% on rate/term refis, 75% on cash-out refis. Some lenders can go up to 85% on purchases and 80% on cash-outs but most tend to stay with the initial LTV's. The rates are constantly changing with the market. the lowest I've seen was a 3.49% in the last 2021 to early 2022 (right before everything launched up in rate), but as of 10/1/2024 the lows that I'm seeing are at 5% for an SFR with rate buydown/ reduced LTV etc.

3. Lenders may have subsets of rules or guidelines for areas that have very high default rates such as increased min property values or experience being required, but other than LTV's going down for a while by 5% in late 2022 I haven't seen anything crazy. I'd say over the last 9 months that lenders have gotten a bit looser with DSCR requirements (scaled with the borrower's FICO).One challenge though may be vacancy on refi's. Some lenders will cut your LTV if you want to refi, but do not have tenants in place yet. Regarding reserves keep in mind that your taxes and insurance get escrowed so if they are due in 2 months then your reserves at close will be much higher than if you'd just paid them.

4. I've been more on the origination side here so I can't speak too much personally as I try to get some investments under my belt, but from working with investors over the years it is a key part for them to pull additional liquidity for new projects they pursue as well as a great tool to keep their properties profitable over a long-term period. I'd highly recommend looking more into the BRRRR section on BP to learn a bit more about how they use DSCR loans to scale.


This is really great insight. I originate DSCR loans as well and you nailed this response!

Post: Thoughts on Using DSCR Loans

Logan Lambert
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  • Kingsville, MD
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Deborah Wodell:

Hi fellow investors,

I've been hearing a lot about DSCR (Debt Service Coverage Ratio) loans lately, especially in the context of long-term buy-and-hold investments. For those of you who've used DSCR loans, I'd love to hear your experiences! Here are a few specific questions I'm curious about:

  1. How does the approval process differ from traditional loans? Was it easier to qualify based on the property’s cash flow?
  2. What kind of terms have you been able to secure? Are interest rates and loan-to-value (LTV) ratios competitive compared to conventional financing?
  3. Have you noticed any challenges or downsides? For example, are lenders stricter about DSCR ratios, or do they require higher reserves?
  4. How has using DSCR loans impacted your overall cash flow and ability to scale? Did they allow you to grow your portfolio faster than traditional financing would?

I'm thinking about recommending DSCR loans to some of my clients who are buy-and-hold investors, but I want to make sure I've got the full picture. Would love to hear your insights, tips, or any lender recommendations you've had success with!

Looking forward to learning more from your experiences!


For buy-and-hold investors, DSCR (Debt Service Coverage Ratio) loans are an excellent choice for a few key reasons:

1. **Cash Flow Focus**: DSCR loans are based on the property's income, not the investor's personal income. This is ideal for investors with multiple properties or self-employed individuals, as it allows them to qualify based on the cash flow of the asset rather than personal tax returns or W-2s.

2. **Scalability**: Traditional financing can limit how many properties an investor can take on due to personal debt-to-income ratios. With DSCR loans, you can continue scaling your portfolio as long as the properties generate enough income to cover the loan payments, which supports long-term growth.

3. **Flexible Underwriting**: Many DSCR loan programs offer flexible underwriting, allowing investors to qualify with lower credit scores or unconventional income documentation, making it easier to secure financing compared to traditional loans.

4. **Interest-Only Options**: Some DSCR loans offer interest-only payment options, which can maximize cash flow in the early years of ownership, making it a great choice for investors focused on maintaining liquidity.

5. **Long-Term Viability**: Since DSCR loans are structured around a steady, income-producing asset, they support long-term stability and wealth accumulation, aligning perfectly with a buy-and-hold strategy.

Overall, DSCR loans offer the flexibility, scalability, and cash flow potential that buy-and-hold investors need to grow their portfolios efficiently.

Post: Columbus, Cleveland and Cincinnati OH - Out of state investor looking to build team.

Logan Lambert
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  • Lender
  • Kingsville, MD
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Nick Lanza:

Hi - I'm an out of state investor looking to build my team in Columbus, Cleveland and Cincinnati, Ohio. I'm looking for property managers, agents, lenders and licensed general contractors. I'm currently looking for SFH 3+bed/2+bath over 1000 sq ft for long term rentals, mostly turn key but would consider small cosmetic rehabs in A to C+ neighborhoods.

I'd also be interested in connecting with other real estate investors that are currently in the area.


 Hey Nick,

Ohio is a great market. Great idea to build a team out there. I am a lender and would love to connect with you and help you better understand that market. 

Post: BRRRR in Akron Ohio

Logan Lambert
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  • Kingsville, MD
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Mavely Pazmino:

Interested in thoughts/experiences with the initial purchase and the refi on a BRRRR in Akron. I'm an OOS investor. We're interested in cash flow and recycling our money. (Our first BRRRR but not our first rental). Interested in section 8 tenants.

We will be using a HELOC as down payment, however what can we expect when buying a distressed property in B/C neighborhoods in Akron for a BRRRR?

We want to use a hard money lender and use HELOC for 20% down payment…
should I be worried that once I buy and rehab I wont get a high enough ARV to refinance in order to payback my HELOC and HML?


What's the lowest hard money Lenders lend with SFR/Duplex properties in Akron?


 Hey Mavely,

Ohio is a great market to invest in, even if you are out of thet state. I have a lot of borrowers who invest there. There are some outlets that you can utilize the heloc for down payment. I would connect with a solid agent also that knows the area so you can ensure that you have the correct ARV going into the deal.

The lowest amount is 100k for us if your using a heloc, but I do have an outlet that you can utilize but need funds in a bank account. I will direct message you.

Post: Investor Friendly Agent in Philadelphia

Logan Lambert
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  • Lender
  • Kingsville, MD
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Zeliang Zheng:

Hi I am looking for an investor friendly agent who is expert in Philadelphia market. I am looking to BRRRR small multi-family units. Let's connect if you are the right fit.


 Hey Zeilang, do you have a specific lender you are working with?

Post: Baltimore BRRRR Advice

Logan Lambert
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  • Lender
  • Kingsville, MD
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Nidja Bell:

Currently in the process of a BRRRR in Baltimore (duplex). Nice, safe neighborhood in 21215 area code. Contractors are working on it as we speak. Looking for advice on what I should do with the property. My original plan was to rent out the space to Section 8 tenants, but from my experience so far, dealing with Baltimore City housing and inspections can be a serious pill. My other options would be to Airbnb it (property close to Morgan State, JHH, and more) or rent it out to a regular or student tenant. Anyone with experience in Baltimore have any suggestions?


 Hey Nidja,

Would love to connect with you and help you in the Baltimore area. The owner of the lending company I work for owns 160 rental properties here in Baltimore and we understand the market very well. I am here to just help you and give you insight.

Post: short term rental

Logan Lambert
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  • Lender
  • Kingsville, MD
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 35
Quote from @Robert Young:

Hello, I'm new to short term rental and I was looking into finding my first property. I was wondering if there were any short term rental host out of Bakersfield, CA. 


 Hey Robert,

Welcome to the short term rental world. I work for Beltway Lending, we are not located in CA but loan all across the country. Would love to connect with you!