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All Forum Posts by: Lionel Mosby Jr

Lionel Mosby Jr has started 4 posts and replied 95 times.

Post: Creative Finance Help?!?

Lionel Mosby JrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @Kenyon Berry:

@Joe Homs Awesome advice! Thank you for your help

Hey! What did you decide to do on this deal? Did you move forward with the hard money lender or find private funding for the rehab?

Post: What contract do you use for partnership on a fix & flip deal?

Lionel Mosby JrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @David M.:

@Lionel Mosby Jr

This has been discussed several times before somewhat recently, but I can't find the threads right now..

First, most I believe use LLC's for the limited liability. A multi-member LLC is taxed like a partnership anyway by default.

the business structure is an exhausting discussion. You can take Title into one LLC, or use separate. I believe TX allows for series LLC's so that could be a route, but I hear the main issue is that they are so knew there is very little case history on it. Otherwise, for a fix and flip using separate LLC's for each property is nice because any "lingering" liability is tossed away with the LLC.

If you really wanted to get complicated, you could each form a single member LLC. Then, each of your single member LLC's would be a member on a multi-member LLC that took Title. this more complicated but gives high flexibiilty, in my layman's opinion. Maybe not all of you want in on the deal. Maybe your splits will be different on a specific deal. All of this can be addressed in the Operating Agreement of the multi-member LLC. Meanwhile, each of you has their own LLC for marketing/branding purposes if you should so care. Some people like the 1 LLC per property since its common to name the LLC the street address for the property. Makes it easier to keep track instead of using a bunch of fancy names. Here some posts I found quickly:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

As for the splits, there are some discussions on that.  In my opinion, it comes down to who is taking the risk.  Everybody needs to be clear as whether they are "investors" or "workers."  The former loses money when the deal doesn't work out, the latter still gets paid.  Those "investors-wannabe's" who say that they will put in their labor for free but their subs and material costs have to be covered.  To me, that's not an investor.  One partner putting up the capital and the other "doing the work" usually doesn't work well either for real estate.  Again, whatever one stands to gain must/should be what one stands to lose.  As an investor, I don't get paid until the deal is completed and the property is sold (in the case of a flip).  So, how does this "other guy" going to "cover the loss" if they never put anything in (and usually wants their expenses covered up front).

For some, it has worked donig 50/50 (for two people) because both sides are happy.  Okay, I have no issue with that...

My point is you need to look at the risk, as well as the contribution.  Many times, all those that aren't putting up funds really should just be paid accordingly to the "work being done."  if you try to calc a percentage, its usually quite measely.  If they are putting any "skin in the game," how can they be responsible for a loss?  Again, investors can lose money, workers get paid...  

I'd be happy to chat and save my fingers :)  Just let me know.  Otherwise, good luck.

Hey David, thank you so much for the response! You have given me so much to consider and think about. 

We did discuss and decide that everyone needs to create their own individual LLCs that will then be part owner of the multi-member LLC for the flip property. At this point we plan to create a new LLC for each property and dissolve the LLC after everything is done.

I totally agree with the investor vs worker thought process. My idea was to split everything based on the percentage of funds everyone puts in to the deal. 40k total split up into 20k, 10k and 10k means person A gets 50% of the profit/loss and persons B & C each get 25%. That's the simplest and easiest way to go about it to me.

I sent you a link to connect. Would love to talk more when you have time. Also, I'll be in NJ at the beginning of next month. Don't know exactly where you are in relation to where I'll be but if we could meet up for lunch, maybe that could work as well. Blessings on your day!

Post: What contract do you use for partnership on a fix & flip deal?

Lionel Mosby JrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 32

I am working with a few friends to start purchasing properties to fix & flip. I am wondering how others go about creating the contractual agreement for a partnership on fix & flip deals. Do you create a partnership or an LLC for each property? What do you do if people are bringing different things to the table (i.e. money vs. time vs. deal, etc.)? Any feedback would be helpful. Thank you!

Post: Financing set, starting fix and flip or lot purchase/development

Lionel Mosby JrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @Wale Lawal:

@Lee Hampton Yes, We can make this happen. I normally host a local meetup every last Thursday of the month in the Heights.

I can bring you in as a Guest Speaker for the June Edition.

Are you available on June 24th at 6:00 pm? I will call you to discuss it further.

That would be great!  

Post: Newbie feeling stuck

Lionel Mosby JrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @John-Patrick D. Bailey:

@Lionel Mosby Jr Wow! that's a loaded recommendation. There's so much to unpack! So focus on learning creative financing, and ways to be a part of the deal that doesn't necessarily require me to be the "money" partner. If I'm missing anything (which I'm sure I am) please let me know!

Nope! You got it! Start there and build. If you have any questions and I can help, just let me know. We're all still learning and building. 

Post: Houston fix and flip and buy and hold

Lionel Mosby JrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @Jasmine Ward:

That's so much for replying! I'll be in Houston the May 8-11 and then again in July. I'm looking for fixer upper 1-4 units, FHA financing with possible 203k. 2bd 2br condos, or multi family. 3 bd 2br single family homes. I aim for neighborhoods that show a lot of appreciation potential as well as room for cash flow. My budget is $200k

Why Houston?

How did your visit down here go? Would love to connect with you to discuss the market here in Houston and really understand what your goals are. If you are looking for appreciation potential, then you are going to need to shoot for the next up and coming area instead of coming in late on already highly appreciating ones. Also, keep in mind that the multi-families here in Houston are very, very scarce as you may be aware after you traveled down.

Post: Financing set, starting fix and flip or lot purchase/development

Lionel Mosby JrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @Lee Hampton:

@Daniel Kim  

If you are looking to self execute a fix/flip, and you need someone to provide oversight and ensure success, I have a service that provides the structure and instruction for you to execute. Essentially, you are the project manager, I oversee. I'm not fishing on your behalf, I'm teaching you to fish. If you are looking for someone to execute fix/flip, that's not my business model. There are many others that are equally skilled at fix/flip that would be interested, not me. However, if you are looking for someone to execute lot/land development , this is where I have an advanced skill-set and a unique set of experiences that are ideally suited(see my bio on my website). The other area I am uniquely positioned is small multi-family construction. I'm happy to have a 30 minute zoom session to explore. I'm an engineer, not a salesman, thus I despise hard sales as much as anyone.

I would love a chance to sit down and discuss the lot/land development piece. I'm growing more and more interested in going this route vs the fix & flip route. Would love to understand your model and hear your thoughts of which model may work best.

Post: How should I start investing?

Lionel Mosby JrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 32

@Robby Williams It's a good choice! Blessings on your investing journey!

Post: New real estate agent

Lionel Mosby JrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @Alvaro Rodriguez:

Hello

I just became a real estate agent a week ago in Houston Texas. I am still learning and would like to know what strategies did you implement to get your career started as soon as possible? Any suggestion on where to get potential buyers/sellers? Any networking strategies?

Any feedback will help a lot

Thank in advance

To be honest almost every strategy works. The most important thing I've realized we need is consistency. I suggest creating a daily plan and stick to it EVERY SINGLE DAY. The more consistent you are the better. If you focus on cold calling, door knocking, networking events, social media, etc. neither will matter if you don't stay focus and consistent. Most of my leads come from social media and FSBOs.

Post: Finding Off market Deals

Lionel Mosby JrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 107
  • Votes 32
Originally posted by @Lawrence Johnson:

@Lionel Mosby Jr thank you for that Lionel. I would like to connect with you here in Houston and build a relationship with you if you’d be up for it.

Sending you a DM. Let's connect!