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All Forum Posts by: Lee Whitford

Lee Whitford has started 10 posts and replied 27 times.

Post: Looking for invest friendly realtors

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Ill admit that its been a struggle for me as well, especially one that’s knowledgeable about areas outside of major metro areas, however, the method I’ve found best thus far is simply googling and reaching out to every real estate agent that pops up as licensed in your area of influence. Be as concise and poignant with your answers in your first email and if they come back with simple one word responses - they either don’t have the knowledge or bandwidth to be a good investor friendly agent. 

Just my two cents, but hope you’re able to find someone!

Post: Upcoming areas near Cleveland?

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I have been looking in the area for a few weeks now and my real estate agent is a brilliant former Marine with many properties of his own. If you are still looking for an investor-friendly Real Estate Agent DM me and I’ll connect you. He is more than willing to hop on a call and answer any questions to get you moving in the right direction!

Post: About to start sanity check

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BP Family,
As I am about to enter the Real Estate journey I thought id put my baseline COA out there and see if the minds more experienced than mine can see any areas I might be missing or not considering in my plan. I am in Sterling, VA.

In order to get started, i will be using 1031 funds from my recent home sell to purchase 2-5 properties (4-10 units total) no farther than 2 hours from my primary residence for LTR. Real Estate has a very expensive barrier to entry in the immediate area. This will still allow me to do the property management myself so that i can learn as much as possible before handing over the reigns to a PM company, making those decisions with a bit more knowledge and experience.  The properties have to meet a certain criteria as far as being able to immediately host tenants , no major reno needed, etc. Is there anything else i need to consider as i push through? Are there any major gaps in my COA?

I will admit that as i get closer to finally starting (the sale of the house is already underway, as is the 1031 attorneys, and identifying replacement properties) i do find myself beginning to worry or second guessing. However, understanding that a major part of failing is never starting so i am eager to really get going!

Thanks for reading and any input!

Quote from @Jason Baik:

Hello all,

I’m a former corporate data scientist turned full-time investor. I’ve had a tough but rewarding journey these past few years and I’d like to share my personal experience to hopefully help others in the early stages of their investing journeys.

I want to give you what I wanted myself – an honest understanding of what it takes to get over that initial hurdle. While I love listening to the Brandon Turners of the world, their success always felt so far away. I prefer to learn from those who are just a step or two ahead of me so... if I'm a step ahead of you, hopefully there's value in this post.

My start:

In 2020, I decided to quit my six-figure career in data to pursue real estate full-time in arguably the worst housing market of the last decade. The day before I left my 9-to-5, my managing partner conducted an exit interview during which she asked, “I hear you’re going to be a real estate investor… so, how many houses do you own now?”.

The moment lingers in my memory because I remember so very vividly the wave of nausea that overtook me. I managed to choke out, “oh, just a few rentals…”. The truth? I had zero investment properties and I hadn’t even bought my own house before.

It wasn’t a malicious lie but one born out of fear. I was about to throw away a decade-long career and I was too embarrassed to admit to anyone that I had no idea what I was doing.

My reason:

The first question most people ask then: why’d I do it?

My answer is simple but two-fold.

1) I needed to take care of my family at a level that my career couldn’t provide. Data scientists make a great living but my family is dirt poor: blue collar workers who have lived paycheck-to-paycheck their entire lives. If I had any hope of providing my parents with a remotely stable retirement, I had to generate some wealth.

2) Equally as important, I wanted to prove to myself that I could. As the child of immigrant parents, I spent most of my life believing that there was only one way to live life: go to a good school, get a good job, work until I retire. I was great at following directions from others but I never took a chance on following what I wanted out of life: freedom to enjoy time with my loved ones and not worry about finances. It wasn’t until I was 30 that I mustered the courage to try to follow my own path.

    My progress:

    Year 0: I'm not as reckless as my intro may imply... I spent 3 years reducing my expenses by over 50%, paying off all of my debts and growing a small nest egg. I decided that if I was going to invest in myself for the first time in my life, I was going to go at it 100%. There's nothing wrong with straddling a full-time job and investing on the side like most people do - I just knew I had to do it differently.

    Year 1: I liquidated my meager life savings and bought 7 single-family homes. I stabilized those in 9 months, refinanced by the end of month 12 and moved onto multifamily. I met my current business partner during that first year through organic networking. A mutual colleague put us in touch, I met him at a real estate event, and eventually spent a week with him in Cincinnati, looking at properties and enjoying some casual time together.

    Year 2: My partner and I bought 60+ units as a lead sponsor and co-sponsored 260+ units. Today, we’ve got a few deals in the pipeline, a 25 unit owner-financing deal, a 50 unit portfolio, and a 100 unit complex.

    Year 3: I’m aiming for larger, more profitable deals and growing into a scalable business.

    My advice:

    I know the pain of getting started since I was just there not long ago. I’ve made a ton of mistakes so based on my personal experiences here are my recommendations to getting traction.

    1) Focus on yourself. Real estate investing is a personal journey that requires a high EQ (at least in my opinion). Learn to meditate, exercise, eat well, spend time with friends and family, read, watch TV, whatever it takes to not burnout and keep going.

    2) Leverage your existing skills and find a niche. For me, I knew nothing about real estate but I knew numbers. I think like an engineer / an economist / a statistician. My ability to create spreadsheets and track everything helped me find partners who filled my gaps and to who I could provide concrete value. Saying you "can do everything" is an open invitation to be ignored or to find other partners who have no idea what they're doing.

    3) Push yourself beyond limitations. Investing in real estate is similar to losing weight. You already know exactly how to succeed, it's just a matter of pushing yourself there. If you want to lose weight, eat less and exercise more; if you want to buy properties, make relationships, analyze deals, and take risks. Learn to enjoy the burn.

    4) Attend events. There is a plethora of online resources – courses, webinars, YouTube videos, podcasts but the one thing that cannot be “taught” digitally is a genuine human connection. As a hard introvert, I hate events as much as the next INFP but they're a necessity.

    5) Take (calculated) risks with your money. Being a real estate investor means never being 100% sure. It’s not just about buying houses… joining masterminds cost $40k, and even events cost thousands of dollars. Do your research to mitigate and hedge but ultimately, know that you have to spend money to learn with no guarantee of success. Losing $10k to learn a lifelong lesson is worth it, I promise you.

    6) Respect the probability. One lucky occurrence does not = skill, and one failure does not = stupidity. Sometimes you get caught in a storm without an umbrella when it was a 10% chance of rain and sometimes you hit a jackpot on the slots. Basing decisions on logic and numbers is the ONLY way you maximize your chances of success.

    7) Be patient. Finding a property can take 6 months and closing can take 3. Accept that success will take a while and enjoy the process.

    8) Stay true to yourself. I’m a data nerd, an introvert, and a frugal nitpicker. My first “mastermind” in multifamily was with a group that touted yachts and brightly colored cars. While I don’t judge people who fit that persona (too much), boats and country clubs are just not me. You’ll meet fellow investors with a wide variety of personalities – your particular tribe may be hard to find but this is a long, patient game. Stay genuine and eventually you’ll found some great mentors, friends and colleagues who click with you.

      9) Figure out what you want out of life. I've met so many investors who follow Grant Cardone religiously who also want a quiet, humble life. Don't fall prey to the glamor and remember why you do this. If you want to be the next Warren Buffet, go for it. For me, I'd much rather be taking a walk with my wife or laughing with friends so I work towards building that life for myself. I spent my corporate career collecting fancy titles and aggressively pursuing salary bumps - trust me when I say that the sigma grind for 30 seconds of an endorphin rush is not a good ROI.

      10) Decide if this is right for you. Real estate is years of blood, sweat, and tears before the "passive income" phase kicks in. Be prepared to devote lose tens of thousands of dollars, fight with loved ones, lie awake at night, and miss important life events. If you simply want to DIVERSIFY your portfolio, find another full-time investor with whom to invest passively. You can enjoy great returns comparable to stocks, have limited liability, and avoid the struggles. Decide if you want some returns or potentially the hardest challenge of your life.

      My parting thoughts:

      It’s easy to write about all of this as I look back on my journey but during month 1, month 3, month 9, there were some incredible lows. This past year has been a whirlwind of uncertainty, fear, and exhaustion but also of elation and relief.

      If it gives you any hope in your own journey, I literally knew nothing about real estate, and I had no connections when I jumped in. Real estate investing is hard but it’s not particularly difficult. Do your homework, put in the time + effort, and you’ll find success with enough patience.


      Great job and truly inspiring. Could you potentially elaborate on how you made the move from your original SFR properties to the impressive MF portfolio in under 2 years? How was that structured and how were you able to negotiate into something so quickly? Really awesome for you man! I look forward to seeing what's next!

      Thanks so much for the response Justin. When vetting Real Estate Agents what are some big red/green flags you look out for? it seems that with the “local” agents i get very few that seem “interested” in the search for investment properties. A lot of one word responses… 

      Hi Bigger Pockets Family,
      I am new to the RE investing adventure and trying to get all my proverbial ducks in a row. The one major road block i have been consistently running into atm is finding a GOOD (as i am often reminded to be on the lookout for) Real Estate Agent. I know there are plenty, especially here in this community. But how does one go about finding these quality agents, that know the areas, in towns and outskirts that aren't popular or populated? I currently have my eyes on a few MF properties in Western MD/VA and Eastern WV - but as they are often far from the "bigger cities" even searches here on the "Find an agent" page pulls few results.

      Are there any recommendations for finding agents in these types of areas. Also feel free to recommend any RE Agents you may know in the areas listed :)

      Thank you in advance!

      Hi Bigger Pockets Family,
      I am new to the RE investing adventure and trying to get all my proverbial ducks in a row. The one major road block i have been consistently running into atm is finding a GOOD (as i am often reminded to be on the lookout for) Real Estate Agent. I know there are plenty, especially here in this community. But how does one go about finding these quality agents in towns and outskirts that aren't popular or populated? I currently have my eyes on a few MF properties in Western MD/VA and Eastern WV - but as they are often far from the "bigger cities" even searches here on the "Find an agent" page pulls few results.

      Are there any recommendations for finding agents in these types of areas. Also feel free to recommend any RE Agents you may know in the areas listed :)

      Thank you in advance!