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All Forum Posts by: Kat Hughes

Kat Hughes has started 17 posts and replied 65 times.

Hi!

We own a multi unit property in Los Angeles Ca.  Front house and a duplex in the back.  The duplex in the back has been rented since 2012 by amazing tenants who have been paying their rent on time every month.  However, we want to ask them to leave so that my brother can move into one of the units and my parents can move into the 2nd unit.  Is this ok to do?  What legal and valid concerns will the tenants have against us should they wish to sue us for asking them to leave?  And what if this is our true intent but my parents decide after asking the tenants to leave that they no longer want to live in the unit and we end up renting it out to new tenants?  Can the old tenants come back to us and say we tricked them into thinking it was for family reasons but actually not?


My dad recently had a health scare and we wish for him to live closer to us.  We live in the front house.  But the unit behind us is a two-story duplex and my dad is contemplating if that is right for him or not.  And that's why we're not sure.  We would like for him to move in but we're not entirely sure yet.  

Would appreciate some advice, especially since CA laws are more tenant friendly than landlord friendly!

Originally posted by @Shay Ghafoor:

@Kat Hughes I’m looking into this as well. Have you purchased the product? Your thoughts? Thanks in advance.

 Hi Shay!

I ended up not purchasing this product.  I researched a ton on it and couldn't find anyone that I trust that knows about it or has used it so no, I ended up doing a different asset protection :)

Hi!

I recently went to a RE conference and there was a company there called Platinum Trust Group (platinumtrustgroup. com) that told us about proprietary irrevocable spendthrift trust. Basically, they're saying that this is the best and most full proof way of protecting your assets. I said I have an umbrella insurance already as well as a living trust and they said that those are still very penetrable but what they have is absolutely not penetrable mainly because it is a third party entity and not tied to your social security. And also that it has amazing tax advantages... whatever property you have in the trust, if you sell it, you don't incur capital gain tax on it and you also don't have to do 1031 exchange.

Just wondering if anyone has had experience using this trust or familiar with this company.

Hi!

I am looking to do a partnership with a friend from out of state.  We are both very committed and have the same values and we think it's a good match.  We've gone to a lawyer and basically the lawyer just told us that we can put whatever terms we want on the operating agreement and that it's up to us how we want to structure the partnership.  We know so many people do this so we'd like to get some feedback from anyone who's done it before. 

The scenario is that he's got some capital money and I do too.  I'm able to put in 100% for the purchase price and rehab cost but we're investing in his state.  So he'd be the one overseeing the work and managing the process as well as getting it rented and managing the ongoing rental after that.  What would be a good structure for this partnership?  My initial thoughts are that it would be 70/30 or 60/40.  He get the 70 or the 60 and I get the 40/30.  Simply because all I'm doing is putting the money in but he's doing all the sweat equity which in my mind is a lot harder.  If not, what other ideas would you guys have for structuring the partnership?

Thank you in advance for any feedback!

Post: All in One / Vortex Loans

Kat HughesPosted
  • Posts 68
  • Votes 28
Originally posted by @Kevin Romines:

This loan is known as many different names. Our company rolled it out in the summer, but pulled it back due to compliance issues with the disclosures with the investor. We plan to roll it out as soon as the compliance issues have been resolved (soon). I can tell you, that the loan is not for everyone, however it is a great loan for many. 

Its a 1st mortgage line of credit that you can draw on for a full 30 years compared to a standard HELOC with a max. 10 year draw period. The loan is intended to take the place of your existing checking and savings account. To make this loan work the best for you, you want to deposit all your monthly money into the HELOC account and if all goes as it should, you keep more in the account than what the minimum interest only payment is. By doing this, you will increase the amount of available credit to draw on and also pay down your mortgage faster.

The way that interest is charged is on a daily basis, so if you have a large deposit at certain times in the month, and there is lag time before you have paid all your bills out of the account for the month, that means your charged less overall interest at the end of the month, and therefore your balance comes down quicker. This can be a huge advantage to those that save a good amount of money each month. Also, you can always draw on the account up to your maximum limit, so its not as if your money is permanently tied up?

This loan can be compared to a fixed rate loan (your existing mortgage) side by side and can show you that regardless of the higher and adjustable rate, it will out perform a fixed rate as far as bringing the balance down quicker and also giving you more and more access to the equity. A standard 1st mortgage you can't get to any of your equity without refinancing, this one you can. 

The reason no one knows about it, is that its only offered by limited companies. The loan has been around for years, but most companies are not aware of it or they don't want to take it on and have it compete with their normal HELOC's.

This loan is also great for investors. You can do up to 70% CLTV on this product and you can have up to 10 HELOCS of this type out at any one time. Go find that feature anywhere.......you wont, because its not out there.

If there is any one drawback with this loan, it is that the loan requires the borrower to have 10% of the line amount as reserves. So if your have a $250,000.00 HELOC, then you must have $25,000.00 liquid in reserves at the time of closing. Other than that drawback, its a great loan and an incredible tool if used correctly!!!

 Hi Kevin!

Thanks for the feedback.  And @whitney hutten you got great questions on this! 

I talked to someone from All In One company. He walked me through comparing my numbers on the site aioloan.net I'm the middle of a refinance right now and about to get 3.9% interest on my primary home which still has a balance of 680K. After walking me through the site, we realized that the best way to take advantage of this kind of loan is if I have at least about 15 - 20% of funds left from my monthly paycheck, just sitting on my account after all the bills have been paid. Currently, we have about 10% left over and with that, it will only speed up our loan pay down by a year. Instead of 30 years to pay, we'd be able to pay it off in 29. So that's not worth it for us. But calculating it at 15% extra funds per month, we'd be able to pay it off in 22 years. I honestly think this is an amazing loan. But again, you have to do your numbers to make sure it's right for you. I'd probably have to revisit this in the next year or two once we have a bit more of cash reserves and hopefully, we can take advantage of this amazing loan. I really love that you have a HELOC that is easily accessible. :)

Hi! 

I recently went to a RE conference and there was a company there called Platinum Trust Group (platinumtrustgroup. com) that told us about proprietary irrevocable spendthrift trust.  Basically, they're saying that this is the best and most full proof way of protecting your assets.  I said I have an umbrella insurance already as well as a living trust and they said that those are still very penetrable but what they have is absolutely not penetrable mainly because it is a third party entity and not tied to your social security.  And also that it has amazing tax advantages... whatever property you have in the trust, if you sell it, you don't incur capital gain tax on it and you also don't have to do 1031 exchange.  

Just wondering if anyone has had experience using this trust or familiar with this company.

Post: All in One / Vortex Loans

Kat HughesPosted
  • Posts 68
  • Votes 28

Hi!  Has anyone had experience using all in one loans / vortex loans?  it sounds good but I'm not sure if it's the right way to go.  Basically it's a faster way to pay down your loan because it applies your payments to principal first and not interest...  but if it's a really good product, I'm wondering how come not a lot of people use this kind of loan...

Originally posted by @Eric L.:

@Kat Hughes I would return the refrigerator for a full refund if possible and get a cheaper one suitable for this space. Chances are no one will want to pay to have it moved when the lease ends and it can’t be split 4 way.

I hope these kids learned something from this; always read agreements before signing and due your due diligence before renting or buying a property (talk to the neighbors).

I hope so too.  I advised them on doing the same. I usually always buy good second hand appliances.  My fridge at my house cost me 200 and it's still in great working condition from when I bought it 5 years ago.  I think these things they will all learn in time.  All 4 of them are in their very early 20's and just all moved to LA.  Lots to learn for them (as do all of us no matter what age we are).

Originally posted by @Steve B.:

@Anthony Wick I agree with you, the lease is the place to start and then from there, see if it’s enforceable. Also even if it is enforceable these type of things get tried in small claims court, which is a court of subjective “equity” not law per se. So even if the law is clear you never know what some wacky judge might determine. Also I wasn’t referring to you as one of the ignorant posters, you seem to have very good and experienced opinions on things. There are a couple of guys on this thread that chimed in that I’ve seen consistently give dumb advice based on suspect land-lording experience.

@Anthony Wick   and @Steve B your correspondence to each other helped me learn something new.  Thank you!  Basically, what I gathered is that the lease is a good place to start with but then compare it with the State Law because in the end, that has more weight because a landlord can't just add statements he/she made up or took from the internet and add it to the lease when really, it's not in compliance with state laws.  

Originally posted by @Steve B.:

Some of you guys need to stop saying “is it in the lease” and “check the lease”, As the default answer to every question. State law supersedes whatever arbitrary addendum a landlord may try to add to some random lease he printed on the internet. There are plenty of non-confirming and voidable lease clauses that are completely unenforceable by state law

wow, this is good to know.  thank you!