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All Forum Posts by: Steve LeBlanc

Steve LeBlanc has started 9 posts and replied 71 times.

Post: Portfolio Loan interest....is it deductible?

Steve LeBlancPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 72
  • Votes 39
Originally posted by @Basit Siddiqi:

@Steve LeBlanc

You will have to follow the interest tracing rules.

If the new loan balance is the same, likely deductible.
If the new loan balance is higher, you may need to track what the additional funds are used for to make it all deductible.

Well you just made this next level difficult.  Never heard of these interest tracing rules, but it makes sense.

The new loan balance will NOT be the same.  The current balance on the 5 existing mortgages is $600,000.  The new loan balance will be $750,000.  The purpose of the loan is to do a cash out as I'm leveraging the equity for another business venture.

I typically do my own taxes.  The new balance will be higher and the extra $150,000 not being used for Schedule E investment real estate, but rather for business startup costs and operating expenses.  My research shows me that only $5000 of business start up costs are deductible, up to a certain amount of expenses.  Therefore, how would one go about interest tracing the $600,000 amount against the 5 properties. Sounds like a fun math problem. 

Post: Portfolio Loan interest....is it deductible?

Steve LeBlancPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 72
  • Votes 39
Originally posted by @Shaun Weekes:
Originally posted by @Steve LeBlanc:

I'm in the process of combining 5 of my investment properties (currently individually mortgaged) into a portfolio loan.  Is the interest paid on this new portfolio loan deductible just the same as the mortgage interest on the conventional loans?

If your portfolio lender issues you a form 1098 then your CPA will put the mortgage interest from your investment homes on line 12 of your Schedule E. If the portfolio lender doesn't issue you a 1098 then your CPA will need to get an amortization schedule to figure out the interest and put it on line 13 " other interest "

If the interest is on line 13 you will need to get a CPA letter stating how they came to the number listed on line 13 of your schedule E so that the Underwriter understands that it's mortgage interest. This is how you'll be able to add back line 13 for conventional loans.

I hope this helps and have a good one.

Definitely helps, thank you. 

Post: Portfolio Loan interest....is it deductible?

Steve LeBlancPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 72
  • Votes 39

I'm in the process of combining 5 of my investment properties (currently individually mortgaged) into a portfolio loan.  Is the interest paid on this new portfolio loan deductible just the same as the mortgage interest on the conventional loans?

Post: Ronald Wilson (Ron) & Sierra Real Estate Services, Toledo OH

Steve LeBlancPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 72
  • Votes 39

@Tara Croskey they got what they deserved, for the most part. Both ended up in federal prison as a result of their cons and theft

Post: Seasoned investor without W2 income seeking loan products

Steve LeBlancPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 72
  • Votes 39

@Tim Fazio thanks for the suggestion. Ill reach out to you for some additional cost details.

Post: Seasoned investor without W2 income seeking loan products

Steve LeBlancPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 72
  • Votes 39

@Stephen Mackivitch not just yet. In the middle of a move. I am in comms with a lender that loans against the numbers of the property being financed. It has to be purchased within an LLC with this lender.

Post: Seasoned investor without W2 income seeking loan products

Steve LeBlancPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 72
  • Votes 39
Originally posted by @Shawn M.:

@Steve LeBlanc

Try CoreVest or visio lending for no doc loans

Ahh yes, I kind of forgot about CoreVest. I had a $2M LOC with them last year but never acted on it unfortunately. CoreVest left a bit to be desired on their costs for residential products.

Post: Seasoned investor without W2 income seeking loan products

Steve LeBlancPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 72
  • Votes 39
Originally posted by @Nurzhan Abenov:

@Steve LeBlanc

You can do commercial loan. I just did one with finance of america.

Would you mind sharing the cost and terms? I'm curious what the lending fees were, and the term and rate of the loan?  Would be interesting to see the difference between comm and residential. 

Post: Seasoned investor without W2 income seeking loan products

Steve LeBlancPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 72
  • Votes 39
Originally posted by @Stephen Mackivitch:

@Steve LeBlanc,

Would condensing your 10 properties into a portfolio loan be an option and then open up the opportunity to acquire more Fannie/Freddie loans? I have heard of local investors doing that and in some instances increasing their cash flow by eliminating all the fees from numerous loans all the while securing a good rate too.

Stephen

Stephen, this has been a consideration, but, it's really hard to give up 3.5% to 5% interest rates that I have on the existing mortgages.  Indeed, it would resolve the issue of having the 10 mortgages, but the overall cost I think is a bit prohibitive.

Alas, I did come across a company called LendingOne. You don't have to have W2 income. But you do have to have capital and assets, you have to get the loan in an LLC, and you have to investor experience. The lending fee is a bit high at $2500, but you can get a 30 year term at about 4.5% to 5.5% depending on if you do a purchase or a delayed financing product.

Thank you to the others for your inputs and suggestions.  

Post: Seasoned investor without W2 income seeking loan products

Steve LeBlancPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Posts 72
  • Votes 39

@Wenda Wang

I was not aware of this. I’ll research. Thank you.