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All Forum Posts by: Landon Ross Cobb

Landon Ross Cobb has started 1 posts and replied 10 times.

Post: Need help! How to approach someone about seller financing

Landon Ross CobbPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Shreveport, LA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 5

@Rachel Barrett

Hey Rachel!

Sending some flowers and condolences sounds like a good way to get the ball rolling with the conversation. Be considerate though, because they've just lost a loved one! 

When they call & thank you, have a casual conversation and bring up the point to ask them what the plans for the house are? Then mention that you are an investor and may have a solution for the home. Assuming their first thought is to put it on the market with an agent, mention that it is a great idea but you have some second options that may be able to help them faster than putting it on the market. It really depends on their situation, ie, if they need money now, you could offer them a win-win price to get them out of the situation. If the home is paid off (or depending on mortgage payment), transition the conversation into seller financing. Open by letting them know that you can pay "X" price, and it would just be over "X" amount of time in monthly payments. 

Like I mentioned, it really just depends on their situation and formulating a problem to their unseen problem.

If they don't make the initial call, then go down there after a few days to see how they are doing, if they need anything and see if they got the card/flowers.

Good luck!

Post: Generating Hot Leads

Landon Ross CobbPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Shreveport, LA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 5

@Kimberly Veloz

There are roughly 3 effective ways to find great leads in today's markets.

#1. Cold Calling 

Cold calling the off-market multi-family/SFH homes that you are interested that may look poorly managed or distressed in neighborhoods you are looking to purchase in. Inquire about the property to see if there is any motivation (there are plenty of good scripts out there, google is your friend :-] ). Once you see there is some reasonably high motivation, start analyzing the deal and seeing what numbers make sense for you then present them with a win-win offer.

#2. Building relationships with brokers. 

It may be hard because you have to catch the attention of brokers who get at least 5 of these calls a week wanting to take them to lunch or just chat to "build rapport." 

You have to set yourself apart from these people by knowing exactly what you're looking for. So going in, let them know your buying criteria & price point. Ask them if they will set you up on an auto-email for deals matching this (some will, some won't). After they start sending you some deals, look them over and analyze them to see if they work or don't (most of them won't.) But the broker is wanting to see if you're active or just another person on their auto-list. After you analyze it.. Either call or email the broker that sent it to you and thank them for sending it and either say you want to make an offer (if it's a good deal), or explain to them why it doesn't work for you and what would work and if the seller would entertain that. There's always a number to make the deal work, do your homework.

#3. Direct Mail

This will generate the most leads (if you set it up properly) but you have to have a good in-bound call system setup/scripts ready for the phone calls. This is also the most expensive way of marketing for deals. There is so many different forms of letters/postcards you can use but I highly recommend viewing ANY of Michael Quarels content and use yellowletters.com for your direct mail campaigns.

Hope this helps.

Post: Got a lead on 3 MF's in Bloomington, IL

Landon Ross CobbPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Shreveport, LA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 5

Hey Brian, can you send over the deals? 

Post: PARTNERSHIPS - BEST STRATEGIES FOR MULTI-FAMILY INVESTING! :-)

Landon Ross CobbPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Shreveport, LA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 5

@Ivan Barratt

You as well!! Thanks again for sharing some insight 😎

Post: PARTNERSHIPS - BEST STRATEGIES FOR MULTI-FAMILY INVESTING! :-)

Landon Ross CobbPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Shreveport, LA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by @Ivan Barratt:

@Landon Ross Cobb Lindahl is a good foundation to start. There's lots of fresh/relevant data out there as well.  My suggestion is find audio/video material that resonates (BP is a good place to search) and listen to it 10 times over! Exceptional material read over and over is far better than always looking for the "next" biz/real esate/self development book!

 When I started my company in 2010 everywhere I drove I was listening to Lindahl's apt house riches course. I nearly broke those CD's I listened to them so many times over!! ;)

Today I don't listen to much real estate. Books I continue to re-read:

If you're not first you're last (Cardone)

10x (Cardone)

Think and Grow Rich (Hill)

RDPD (Kiyosaki)

Anitfragile (Taleb)

Nice! I'll have to check out some of Lindahl's audio. 

Love GC! Currently replaying in my office while I work is Sell or Be Sold. Also replay Lead the Field by Earl Nightingale..

Going to get Anitfragile now and check it out. Only one on the list I haven't heard of. "Fooled by Randomness" by Taleb is on my list of buys but hadn't heard of Antifragile.

Thanks for the recommendations Ivan!

Post: PARTNERSHIPS - BEST STRATEGIES FOR MULTI-FAMILY INVESTING! :-)

Landon Ross CobbPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Shreveport, LA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by @Chase Louderback:

These seem like perfectly realistic/good scenarios to me.  I think you can go either route and you shouldn't have too much of an issue doing the second approach as long as the deal is very good.  There are a lot of hard money lenders out there so it should be relatively easy to source that capital.

Definitely going to echo the thread sentiment that you shouldn't be looking to syndicate those smaller (or cheaper) deals since it is more expensive and there are moving parts that are unnecessary for the price range that you would likely be operating in.  

 Hey, thanks for the feedback Chase!!

I've secured funding for the deal already but was just wanted some feedback from fellow BP members for future deals.

Post: PARTNERSHIPS - BEST STRATEGIES FOR MULTI-FAMILY INVESTING! :-)

Landon Ross CobbPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Shreveport, LA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by @Theo Hicks:

For these smaller deals, you'll want to JV as opposed to syndicate. Putting together a syndication is pricy. But your partner will need to have an active role in the project for it to qualify as a JV.

50/50 sounds realistic based on your strategy.

Thanks for your reply.

I believe I'm going to go down the JV route!

Post: PARTNERSHIPS - BEST STRATEGIES FOR MULTI-FAMILY INVESTING! :-)

Landon Ross CobbPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Shreveport, LA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by @Ivan Barratt:

@Landon Ross Cobb keep studying real estate finance and syndication for more sense on where the market is for cost of equity. You're on the right track!

study: preferred returns, splits, fees the sponsor (that's you) reasonably takes, etc

All the best!

Thanks!

Currently reading "Multi-Family Millions" by David Lindahl. Any other book recommendations?

Post: PARTNERSHIPS - BEST STRATEGIES FOR MULTI-FAMILY INVESTING! :-)

Landon Ross CobbPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Shreveport, LA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 5
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

@Landon Ross Cobb have you checked out the RE360 REI group on Facebook or attended one of their meetings? @Michael Faulk is pretty involved and attending the meetings will allow you to network with individuals who have capital and are looking to partner up. 

Personally, on small MF investments of 5 units and up, a debt play may be the wise route where you simply borrow the capital to procure/rehab the units and then pay a reasonable interest rate to the lender. 

For hard money you are looking at 10-12% easy. Private lending you can probably start at 8 or 9% and, after a deal or two, be able to command 5 to 6%. Also, after you have experience, you may be able to negotiate a lump sum interest payment at the end of the project. However, there are some things to consider here. First, the deal must have enough meat on the bones to support the debt interest. Second, the rent delta between current and market must be significant to command a higher potential future NOI. Third, you will need to focus on 5 units or up as they are appraised based on NOI, not comps. and Fourth, you will need to either 'flip' these or cash-out refinance them with a bank as your exit strategy, the latter of which will require significant added value/equity.

I am a SFH investor in Bossier City. I am starting to move into Syndication so if you would like to connect with me here or on Facebook, just reach out. Best of luck!

Thank you for your reply, very insightful!

And awesome. Let's definitely connect!

Post: PARTNERSHIPS - BEST STRATEGIES FOR MULTI-FAMILY INVESTING! :-)

Landon Ross CobbPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Shreveport, LA
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 5

Hi all!

Would love to welcome everyone to share their input on a couple scenarios for potential partnerships that I am considering.

First of all, my name is Landon, I'm 24, I live in Shreveport, LA! Currently I am a realtor and I am getting into buying small multi-family units, 2-10 units and looking to partner with investors who have money but not necessarily time/knowledge/hustle.

I spend majority of my time/efforts on finding/analyzing GOOD-GREAT off market deals and I am seeking to partner 50/50 with investors who want to build a long-term buy/hold portfolio.

The route I am leaning more toward is simply going into the partnerships 50/50, I bring some capital/the deal/management/time/effort/analysis, they bring the capital for down payment/rehab/repairs.

And we split equity/income/resale profits 50/50...

How realistic is this approach?

What challenges may I encounter?

Has anyone done this that could share feedback?

What am I not considering here?

Another route my mentor has run by me is this... I partner with hard money investors who have the cash to buy the entire asset, they fund the rehab/repairs & purchase of property, we BRRR it essentially and after 90 days, I refinance out and put the asset under my LLC (me having 100% ownership) and pay them their dollars back + "X"% interest.

How realistic is this approach?

What challenges may I encounter?

Has anyone done this that could share feedback?

What am I not considering here?

I love both methods but am leaning more towards the first one simply because of the ability to scale faster and having aligned interest with the investor partners.

If anyone has a different strategy that they can see working better, please let me know!

Feel free to DM to connect!