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All Forum Posts by: Kyle Smith

Kyle Smith has started 23 posts and replied 215 times.

Post: Fireplaces for new STR construction

Kyle SmithPosted
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Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

Maybe the codes are different in TN, but why bury it? Put it the allowed distance from the house where it can't be seen, or build an enclosure for it......?

Unfortunately the HOA requires it

Post: Fireplaces for new STR construction

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Well guys, I am running over budget on this cabin. It’s going to cost around $4500 to bury a 250 gallon tank so the overall cost to install a nice linear fireplace plus the propane tank will run me around $10,000. I can get into a very nice electric fireplace for $3000. Apparently burying a propane tank on a 7° slope is not the easiest thing. 

Am I going to see any disappointed renters in my luxury pool cabin if it’s an electric fireplace? In other words is it worth the additional $6000?

Post: Fireplaces for new STR construction

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Quote from @John Underwood:

Do you have a gas line to the house, or will you have a tank?

Well, I need to bury one and I haven’t spent the money to do it yet. I’ll have a firepit on the deck as well as a grill so I’m on the fence about everything. 

Post: Fireplaces for new STR construction

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Quote from @Collin Hays:
Quote from @Kyle Smith:

I'm currently building my luxury STR in Gatlinburg and was curious about fireplaces. I really want a nice one but it appears most are installing very basic, much cheaper gas fireplaces because of ease of use and the ability to put a timer on it.

So, I know many new construction cabin owners are installing a cheap $900 fireplace with vented chase and ventless fireplace so you can switch to vented if the gas smell is bothersome, etc.   These fireplaces look cheap but fairly functional. 

My issue is, I’m really wanting to purchase a nice linear fireplace like the Napoleon Vector fireplace which has LEDs, a super nice fire display along with many other nicer features.    I’m also wanting one that actually produces heat when needed to cut down on energy costs as well as heat the cabin if the power goes out. My main concern or dilemma is all of these nicer fireplaces have a remote control.  I’m concerned the $200 remote will get destroyed at some point, or the fireplace gets left on for 24hrs, etc.   I’m really torn on what to buy.   Your thoughts?


Thanks in advance. 


 I’m not a big fan of electric fireplaces, but to each his own.  I’m appreciate authenticity.  I’ve got a real wood burning fireplace in my Gatlinburg cabin and my guests indicate they enjoy it.  

I will be installing an electric fireplace at a cabin that I am renovating, simply because I have no other choice.

I definitely considered wood burning but the liability is a little concerning and I have to deal with it being properly designed to draw outside air, etc.   It’s always a crap shoot.  I love wood burning though. 

Post: Fireplaces for new STR construction

Kyle SmithPosted
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Quote from @Ken Boone:

I put a Simplifire Scion 55 in my last build and it looks absolutely amazing.  Has 5000 btu heater as well. It has a remote but there are under ledge controls on the fireplace as well if the remote is lost. 

Awesome…will check it out

Post: Fireplaces for new STR construction

Kyle SmithPosted
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Quote from @Matt Castle:

Many cabin fireplaces in Smokies have wall mounted controls with timers. Not exactly an upscale look, but maybe you can find something or keep it out of normal line of sight. 

Yes, I really don’t have an issue with the wall mounted timer, unfortunately the better fireplaces do not have that as an option.  I might be able to set it up to lock out the “power on” controls on the fireplace itself.  I’m still looking into ways to do it. 

Post: Fireplaces for new STR construction

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Quote from @Leslie Anne Morris:

I’m building a cabin now and installing electric. People are hard on things and gas is more expensive. Gas is definitely better than a wood burning fire place though. Hopefully that quality of guests you target wouldn’t misplace or take a fireplace remote but you never know. 

That’s great. I was actually thinking about installing electric but was sort of talked out of it by my AC guy, but I think electric is still on the table for me. I’d save thousands in propane tank and burial costs plus the cost of filling the propane tank, etc. 

Post: Fireplaces for new STR construction

Kyle SmithPosted
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I'm currently building my luxury STR in Gatlinburg and was curious about fireplaces. I really want a nice one but it appears most are installing very basic, much cheaper gas fireplaces because of ease of use and the ability to put a timer on it.

So, I know many new construction cabin owners are installing a cheap $900 fireplace with vented chase and ventless fireplace so you can switch to vented if the gas smell is bothersome, etc.   These fireplaces look cheap but fairly functional. 

My issue is, I’m really wanting to purchase a nice linear fireplace like the Napoleon Vector fireplace which has LEDs, a super nice fire display along with many other nicer features.    I’m also wanting one that actually produces heat when needed to cut down on energy costs as well as heat the cabin if the power goes out. My main concern or dilemma is all of these nicer fireplaces have a remote control.  I’m concerned the $200 remote will get destroyed at some point, or the fireplace gets left on for 24hrs, etc.   I’m really torn on what to buy.   Your thoughts?


Thanks in advance. 

Post: Hot Tubs manufacturers for short term rental properties

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Quote from @Ken Boone:

I think you will be happy with that.  The 4 person tubs are just too small.

Awesome, thanks

Post: Hot Tubs manufacturers for short term rental properties

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Thanks everyone.  So, I checked in with the local water company and after I pay the minimum monthly fee which is $93 it’s only $7.50 per 2500 gallons. Not too bad so I’m going to go ahead and pull the trigger on the 400 gallon 6 person.