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All Forum Posts by: Krishonda Johnson

Krishonda Johnson has started 11 posts and replied 35 times.

Post: Got a response from mailers

Krishonda JohnsonPosted
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Originally posted by @Jerryll Noorden:

When you get more experienced you will look back and laugh about it all.

That is how I was when I first started. Fight (waste time) for every deal. The more you fight, the more desperate you seem, hence unlike everyone here I do not follow up.

I have plenty of leads to be arrogant picky and basically a pre-Madonna.

If you try to play me I say goodbye. If you try to argue with me, it is bye.. if you give me any resistance.. GOOD BYE.

Why ?

How?

This is why and how:

Every day I get leads, every few hours. I have more leads than I know what to do with them. All this for free. My website simply performs splendidly.

When you are this far, why would you fight for a great lead, when you have 3 other FRIGGIN SICK CRAZY AWESOME leads in your inbox... AND knowing that by tomorrow I will receive an other 5 crazy leads.

Anyone that spends so much time trying to make a deal happen is forcing it... and you give the image that you are a small time investor, and thus people walk all over you. Play hard to get if you do not have all these leads come in.

Fake it till you make it is a real thing.

My advice is to spend your time automating lead generation and less time fighting to make one deal happen. It is an investment into your future of the company. I get you need a deal NOW to proceed. You need money... sure I get it.

But, do not neglect company growth just to make a few grand right now.

You need a plan and a strategy and you need to follow that plan, always!

 😁👍 ok. I will focus on generating lead and spend less time trying to force deals and look desperate.. thanks

Post: Got a response from mailers

Krishonda JohnsonPosted
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Originally posted by @Lydia R.:

@Krishonda Johnson ARV cannot be calculated by a program. You have to use sold data. Remember ARV is an educated guess of what a property will sell for once its fixed up. You HAVE to look at the similar properties in the neighborhood that have sold. Youve gotta look at the pics to determine condition. There is no program/technology/algorithm that can do that. Thats why Zillow is always inaccurate. Find an investor friendly agent to help you get comps. Pay a contractor to walk your properties with you to get repair estimates.

If you are in TX you should be using the TREC. Dont listen to anyone who says to use something else.

If your price leaves the buyer room to make money then dont negotiate. Just because buyer wants to negotiate doesnt mean you have to. But if you do an assignment the buyer will see your assignment fee. Thats how you get paid. If the fee is big enough that it makes you worried that it will ruin the deal then do a double closing instead.

Best price range of properties to market to is 250k and below. Delinquent property taxes are hard because it takes so long for the county to do a tax foreclosure so owners are less motivated. Best thing to do is to get multiple lists and look for overlap with your delinquent list. Divorce, eviction, preforeclosure etc.

Keep asking questions. It gets easier the more you do it.

 Ok will do. Thanks for the advice. I've also took a couple of questions to ask the seller from tons of YouTube videos from different wholesalers/realtors or even flippers.

Post: Got a response from mailers

Krishonda JohnsonPosted
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Originally posted by @Lydia R.:

@Krishonda Johnson If its a good deal buyers will be easy. ‘Good' and ‘deal' are the operative words there. You dont have actual comps (MLS is the only place to get SOLD data in TX) you dont know actual rehab numbers, you are trying to buy a house that has a considerably smaller buyer pool than the average home. If you are a buyer buying this property to rehab it and your goal is to sell it for $950k how many people are buying 950k houses? How long will it sit on the market before a buyer comes along? You think $1,000 is an acceptable EMD for a house that you say has an ARV of 950k? Your estimations on closing costs were way off. You have to calculate what buyer will pay to purchase as the buyer AND what they will pay when they sell. All of these things are essential for a good deal. The numbers show that this isnt that good of a deal.

You posted here asking to know if this was a good deal or not. Its not.

You are displaying the reasons that wholesalers get such a bad reputation. Inaccurate ARV, inaccurate repair estimates, incorrect contracts (you are in TX you should be using the TREC), wholesaling properties off the MLS, inability to put up reasonable earnest money.

Please dont become the type of wholesaler that gets repeatedly bashed here on BP and in the real estate community in general.

I've gotten in contact with a ton of title companies and law firms and some say they need to disclose of your assignment fee upfront but others say they wont find out til closing which is fine with me because from watching YouTube/ Reading on bigger pocket and Reading investment books i dont want my assignment fee to be something the buyer can negotiate. I've completely left the deal alone, haven't pursued it since the last message. I use the Reipro to do most of the things you mentioned for example calculating the buyers cost to buy and sale after the flip/ or even find comps with the last sale dates and prices for what homes are selling for. From what I've read on bigger pocket, yes 1,000 seems like enough but that would be up for negotiation with the seller. Just the other day i used one of the title companies i was considering closing with closing calculators which made me realize that my numbers were way off by almost 15,000.

Inaccurate ARV: reipro helped me calculate this

inaccurate repair estimates; i purchased the the book on estimating rehad cost  to do my repair estimated but also i have a webinar coming up soon to gain more knowledge. From what i heard on "kong the wholesaling millionaires on YouTube" i can come up with estimates but that doesnt mean that the buyer wont find contractors that do them cheaper or see things that he wants to fix that i didnt. 

incorrect contracts (you are in TX you should be using the TREC): i called title compaines and they are willing to draw up contracts for me or review mine but never not once mentioned that i need to be using that contract. Tho i did reference that contact

wholesaling properties off the MLS:the only reason i attempted to persue this lead is because the owner contacted me and i didnt look on mls for this home he was on the tax delinquent list. He received a letter i sent and I just felt the need to get some learning from it.

inability to put up reasonable earnest money: once i get my first deal and can put that in my budget i will do a little more but as of right now i wouldnt want to tie up that much money this being my first deal.

I will definitely not become one of the ones they talk about on bigger pocket. Thats why i will continue to ask question and take advice. I know you will be honest from what i read, thats why i asked you. 

Thanks

Post: Got a response from mailers

Krishonda JohnsonPosted
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Originally posted by @Lydia R.:

@Krishonda Johnson Here are a few things to consider. 1. Once you get this house under contract who are you going to wholesale it to? Do you actually have buyers that you know would be interested? 2. You put the ARV at 950K, how did you arrive at that number? How did you arrive at 200k for repairs without having been inside the house? Also, what state are you in? If you are some place expensive like CA or WA your numbers will make a little more sense. 3. Do you have money to put up for EMD? Because the house is listed the realtor is going to require it. And it will probably be a substantial amount given the price range of the house. 4. Having a purchase agreement and a title company that does assignments is a pretty important piece. 5. Personally I feel that wholesaling off the MLS is a no no. Think about how this will go, lets say you get the house under contract and you send an email to your buyers list. First thing they will do is look up the house and do their due diligence. They will see that its listed on the MLS and there isnt anything preventing them from calling up the agent and telling them they can offer more for the property. Agent will cancel contract with you and accept the better offer.

Obviously I cant tell you what you should or shouldnt do. Like I said before I see a lot of reasons why this wont work. But part of being a new wholesaler is having learning experiences like this. If it works out thats fantastic and if not at least you gained some valuable experience. Good luck and keep us posted.

 No i dont have a buyers list. I took advice from a someone on bigger pocket that "if its a good deal,  buyers should come". I used comps from reipro (currently using the 30 day trial). Comps that sold in the past 6 months, the average sold price per sq ft was about $188. They have tons of photos online but yes i havent been to the home, nor do i just have a good eye for reno or rehab i just based it off the comps and what could be updated. Im in Houston/pearland tx area. I do have emd but i wouldn't consider going over $1,000 if he'd agree with the price. I found 2 title companies/law firm but one of them said "the buyer will have to know your assignment fee and I couldn't use 2 purchase and sale contracts and that is why i choose the other law firm". Ok i completely understand , thanks for the help.

Post: Got a response from mailers

Krishonda JohnsonPosted
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Originally posted by @Lydia R.:

@Krishonda Johnson Congrats on your first learning experience. I am going to assume from the numbers that you are somewhere in California or NYC or some other high priced market. If you are in Dayton OH though thats another story....

Here is how I see this. This is not a deal. When you are new you are a hammer and every home is a nail, which you will learn through experience is not accurate. This is not a deal. Most of the sellers/homes you encounter will not be deals. The guy wants a million dollars for a property that appraised at 700k. Red flag number 1. His level of motivation is pretty low red flag 2. The property is listed with a realtor, red flag number 3-7!!! Listed properties are very rarely (almost never) going to be a deal.

My advice is to move on to the next one, this one is going to waste your time which is too valuable to spend on sellers who arent motivated or houses for sale that arent deals.

Also in looking at the numbers, if it appraised at 700k the guy would have to be a moron to sell it to you for substantially less than that. And if he has a realtor Im assuming he has signed a listing agreement with that agent) it gets even more complicated because that agent doesnt want to get cut out of a hefty commission.

This isnt a deal. Move on to something that is.

 I wanted to give you an update although you told me to move on from the deal. I called the owner of the home back just to practice my cold calling and ended up building up a decent raport. Although he didnt seem like a motivated seller, from what i researched he had been trying to rent and sale the property going on 7 years and had no luck. He just seemed like a hard headed old man 😬. Tho i know i shouldnt have done this, i texted him an offer and later that night got a phone call from him. I returned his phone call the falling morning but when he got on the phone he said "oh i didnt mean to call you"  So at first I was like "darn" but then when i really thought about it im like "no i know he's interested but being hard headed". Something told me to call his realtor. Well i did and funny thing is when i did call i heard him in the background talking (how i know that? He has a very strong accent) . Well i proceeded talking about the property and the realtor admits that the owner is his uncle and he's the nephew and pretty much all the kids have grown up and move away and the property is just sitting there vacant. I mentioned to him "yea i see that its just increasing in property taxes" (about $85,000 but he has the 65 exemption). So i told him "your uncle seems to want 1 million dollars" and he chuckled and said "no no no were just trying to get rid of it". So i asked him a few times whats there price range because the property had dropped from $1.5 million to about $700,000 in about 5 months. He didnt really wanna answer but reccomended i come see the propety first. I agree and told him I would get back with him. Well heres where things took a left turn for me. I had yet to get my purchase and sale contracts over to the title company to get the reviewed. I immediately called and was told to send them over to the director of marketing and sale. Well i did and got an automatic reply email stating that "she was out of the office and would return by monday". I was bummed because i wanted to secure the deal this past weekend but its going on tueday and i have yet to get a reply from her and i called and the havent answered the phone. I definitely feel like I need to search for another law firm/title company but i went thru a list of 20 potentials and this was the only one that fits exactly all my necessities in closing. My question after all that is "what should I say to the sellers nephew when i do set up a meeting to view the home preferably with his uncle as to what was taking me so long?"

Originally posted by @Marcus Auerbach:

@Krishonda Johnson as an investor I'd rather see 50 pictures on a google drive than someone leses repair estimates. You can spend a lot of time on repair estimates and as long as you do not have a definition of the "after repair standard is" you can't tell how much work is needed. I see posts that say it needs only 10k in repairs - turns out more like 40k to bring the property up to our standard. Some people will call a kitchen okay, others will gut it an replace. So, you are absolutley correct, it depends on what your final product is going to look like. Any experienced investor knows what cost are involved, so I don't think you need to spend the time to break it down. 

Good pictures and the address are really all I need. Here is what I would like to see:

  • a set of exterior pictures incl all 4 sides of the house, the front and back yard and the garage
  • a picture of every room
  • several pics of kitchen and bathrooms
  • furnace, AC, water heater, electric breaker panel and electric service outside
  • basement walls, cracks if any, water stains, any puddles
  • a close up shot of: a sample window (the frame, not the glass), flooring, siding, roof shingles -  if possible
  • anything else that needs attention or is broken (crumbeling chimney, a huge fallen tree, water stains on the ceiling etc)

Better to take the pictures with an actual camera with a real flash, cell phone shots are usually not good enough, because they turn out too dark and don't show details. A little pocket camera will totally do. Load the pictures into the cloud, send me the address and a link and let me know how much you are asking for; that's really all I need to tell you if we have a deal!

 Thank you so much for this advice. I greatly appreciate the response. Will do.

I've seen on most websites that wholesalers keep it simple when advertising to end buyers/investor. For example 

ARV 100,000

SELLERS PRICE 20,000

REHAB/RENO 1,000

PROFIT 79,000

but does the end buyer/investor want a complete breakdown of his expenses (closing, holding, etc.) Subtracted from the profit to show a more accurate profit? 

Im currently trying to come up with a ROI for the end buyer but i get to deep into how much he will spend but in reality im not exactly sure how much he or she will have to spend but sure they know. So is that something they factor into the profit?

1st question

What do you include in calculating the end buyers expenses on a fix and flip so that you can calculate the proper ROI?

So far I've added

My wholesale price + closing + Reno. Price = Amount invested

Not sure about holding cost and specifically what would be included but if i need to add more to the equation I'd really appreciate the advice...

2nd question

As an investor, about how much ROI % you'd prefer or deals that get your attention?

Post: Got a response from mailers

Krishonda JohnsonPosted
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Originally posted by @Lydia R.:

@Krishonda Johnson Congrats on your first learning experience. I am going to assume from the numbers that you are somewhere in California or NYC or some other high priced market. If you are in Dayton OH though thats another story....

Here is how I see this. This is not a deal. When you are new you are a hammer and every home is a nail, which you will learn through experience is not accurate. This is not a deal. Most of the sellers/homes you encounter will not be deals. The guy wants a million dollars for a property that appraised at 700k. Red flag number 1. His level of motivation is pretty low red flag 2. The property is listed with a realtor, red flag number 3-7!!! Listed properties are very rarely (almost never) going to be a deal.

My advice is to move on to the next one, this one is going to waste your time which is too valuable to spend on sellers who arent motivated or houses for sale that arent deals.

Also in looking at the numbers, if it appraised at 700k the guy would have to be a moron to sell it to you for substantially less than that. And if he has a realtor Im assuming he has signed a listing agreement with that agent) it gets even more complicated because that agent doesnt want to get cut out of a hefty commission.

This isnt a deal. Move on to something that is.

 Ok thank u for the advice will move on.I got good practice from this one. 

Post: Got a response from mailers

Krishonda JohnsonPosted
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So i received a call from the mailers i send out a couple weeks ago. Man came off very arrogant and im not sure if he is motivated but I'll let you tell me. He didn't give me time to give him my "im an investor" speech he out right told me he knows what i do which is flip homes and buys cheap. So i asked him a few questions which were..

-Whats the least you would accept? He said 1,000,000 intially , saying thats what it appraised for but he said he'd entertain 900,000. And dont care for cash , would be ok with financing. But with reseach not only is does his realtor have it listed for $819,000 but its only appraised for $707,000.

-How long have you owned the property? 10 years and claims to own it out right (i seen that he had a quit deed granted to a llc so im not sure if he does or doesnt) but he does have back taxes for about $85,000 (fyi he has the 65 yr old exemption so he isnt getting evicted because of the backtaxes)

-Reason for selling? Kids are grown,  claims to have 10 other properties (but i haven't found any other properties he own so im calling his bluff)

Needs rehab? Nope, pretty much turnkey is what he told me but from further research thats not the case house still looks like the year it was built 1987. Needs major updating

Has a realtor but choose to call me. Didnt really entertain my rapport so i kept it business like and will try to build it tomorrow. But these are the numbers i got out of it. Id love to get some advice on my offer or even if i should move on.

Comps.

Sold 2016 $1.4 million 

Sold 2019 $895,10

.......................

ARV: 950,000

Repais:201,000

Closing: about 20,000

Holding: 20,000

Assignment fee: 20,000

Backtaxes: 85,000

MaximumAO to seller (ARV * .65 - repairs) 950,000*.65-201,000 =416,500

MinumumAOTo buyer 416,500 + 20,000(fee) + 20,000(closing) = 456,500

Investment = 456,500 +201,000(reno) + 20,000(6mo. holding)= 677,500 

ROI

Invest $677,500

Sell for $950,000

=

Investment Gain$272,500.00
ROI40.22%

Fyi i used a ROI calculator to id appreciate the verification & advice