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Got a response from mailers
So i received a call from the mailers i send out a couple weeks ago. Man came off very arrogant and im not sure if he is motivated but I'll let you tell me. He didn't give me time to give him my "im an investor" speech he out right told me he knows what i do which is flip homes and buys cheap. So i asked him a few questions which were..
-Whats the least you would accept? He said 1,000,000 intially , saying thats what it appraised for but he said he'd entertain 900,000. And dont care for cash , would be ok with financing. But with reseach not only is does his realtor have it listed for $819,000 but its only appraised for $707,000.
-How long have you owned the property? 10 years and claims to own it out right (i seen that he had a quit deed granted to a llc so im not sure if he does or doesnt) but he does have back taxes for about $85,000 (fyi he has the 65 yr old exemption so he isnt getting evicted because of the backtaxes)
-Reason for selling? Kids are grown, claims to have 10 other properties (but i haven't found any other properties he own so im calling his bluff)
Needs rehab? Nope, pretty much turnkey is what he told me but from further research thats not the case house still looks like the year it was built 1987. Needs major updating
Has a realtor but choose to call me. Didnt really entertain my rapport so i kept it business like and will try to build it tomorrow. But these are the numbers i got out of it. Id love to get some advice on my offer or even if i should move on.
Comps.
Sold 2016 $1.4 million
Sold 2019 $895,10
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ARV: 950,000
Repais:201,000
Closing: about 20,000
Holding: 20,000
Assignment fee: 20,000
Backtaxes: 85,000
MaximumAO to seller (ARV * .65 - repairs) 950,000*.65-201,000 =416,500
MinumumAOTo buyer 416,500 + 20,000(fee) + 20,000(closing) = 456,500
Investment = 456,500 +201,000(reno) + 20,000(6mo. holding)= 677,500
ROI
Invest $677,500
Sell for $950,000
=
Investment Gain | $272,500.00 |
ROI | 40.22% |
Fyi i used a ROI calculator to id appreciate the verification & advice
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@Krishonda Johnson Congrats on your first learning experience. I am going to assume from the numbers that you are somewhere in California or NYC or some other high priced market. If you are in Dayton OH though thats another story....
Here is how I see this. This is not a deal. When you are new you are a hammer and every home is a nail, which you will learn through experience is not accurate. This is not a deal. Most of the sellers/homes you encounter will not be deals. The guy wants a million dollars for a property that appraised at 700k. Red flag number 1. His level of motivation is pretty low red flag 2. The property is listed with a realtor, red flag number 3-7!!! Listed properties are very rarely (almost never) going to be a deal.
My advice is to move on to the next one, this one is going to waste your time which is too valuable to spend on sellers who arent motivated or houses for sale that arent deals.
Also in looking at the numbers, if it appraised at 700k the guy would have to be a moron to sell it to you for substantially less than that. And if he has a realtor Im assuming he has signed a listing agreement with that agent) it gets even more complicated because that agent doesnt want to get cut out of a hefty commission.
This isnt a deal. Move on to something that is.