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All Forum Posts by: James Fowler

James Fowler has started 10 posts and replied 48 times.

Originally posted by @Dimitri Lopez:

Congratulations! I am showing this one to my woman. I have to keep her interested until we do our first deal.

 I did the exact same thing!

Thanks for sharing! This is a physically separated area that is behind all the units that we didn't even know which was ours until we just tried our key until we found a match. :D I have read through the by-laws; one of the most boring reads ever! There is no limitations to this or to a rental situations that I was able to find. I also confirmed with the HoA manager about the rental restrictions and she admitted that they were out of date and not many restrictive rules in place for rentals. I don't think this would be an issue, as no other tenants I've seen have been given access to these storage units. However, you make a good point that tenants may have an expectation and I would need to provide clarity if to pursue this. 

Has anyone had any luck renting out a storage for one of your rentals separately from the rental itself? My condo has a small storage space that is physically separated from the condo; I think it would rent for an additional $30-35 a month. Is there any reason I couldn't rent this out separately? Has anyone done this have any advice?


Thanks!

Has anyone had any luck renting out a storage for one of your rentals separately from the rental itself? My condo has a small storage space that is physically separated from the condo; I think it would rent for an additional $30-35 a month. Is there any reason I couldn't rent this out separately? Has anyone done this have any advice?

Thanks!

Post: Advice on Properties to purchase

James FowlerPosted
  • O Fallon, IL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 19

Currently we have a 3br, 1bath rented, and a 2br condo we are living in; looking to buy one or two more properties to move in one and rent the other. We are new to being landlords, new to being parents and planning on having my wife quit work! Any thoughts appreciated in this.

We put 2 offers this weekend: 1st) a desirable little house with a lot going for it that would make it easy to rent. It's probably worth 68K; but would cash flow 250 a month after all things included; we offered 58,500. This property would rent for 1.55% a month for a purchase price of 60K. It's ready to go and rented currently; not really an equity play with this. 2nd) a home we like and could live in for 5+ years as our family grows. It should go for mid 60's, and we offered 58,500 also; being worth about 80K currently. With 15K of updates should evaluate worth at least 100K most likely 110K; adding 3rd BR, 3/4 bath, siding and windows. Would also rent 1100+ if we desired to do so; 1.45-1.6% in monthly rent. Post deal picture(option 1): gaining 40K+ in equity, renting the condo and new SFR we would have $550 in CF additional after maintenance and vacancy. We should be able to handle this with breathing room. We would have a home that is very comfortable and a place we'd desire long term. All our rentals would be located within 3 miles.


Here's where the conflict begins; I had a property manager reach out to me and was looking to sell 2 duplexs for 140K; 3 of 4 units are rented. They are in a fairly desirable area also; however but up to mobile homes behind them. They are renting for 550-585 and should be rented for at least 650; the 2 duplexes I show to be worth at least 220K providing a ton of equity for the transaction it would be. The 4 if all rented would be getting at least 1.8% of the monthly rent for the purchase price. Should have at least 80K in equity from the transaction as well. Post deal picture(option 2): This would mean we shouldn't buy either of the other 2 we put offers on if we went this route; losing the home we desire. Pros: We would be gaining at least 80K equity, eventually get to $700+ in CF -maint and vac, and getting better percentage per dollar invested. Cons: may be a little harder to rent and keep occupied, speads our rentals about 20 miles apart, and have more tenants to manage. This is also financially a little riskier.

Which would you choose and why?

Thanks again for any thoughts!

Post: Looking FOR WHOLESALERS IN ILLINOIS

James FowlerPosted
  • O Fallon, IL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 19

Have you tried any REI groups locally to you? I'm kinda a newbie to; I'm actually planning on going to a meeting this next Monday for the first time. I'm in somewhat of the same position with wanting to learn from those who have been there. I know a few guys that do similar things as I would like to do, but they are so busy I can't get enough of their time to provide the needs I'm wanting met; that's why this seems to be a good outlet.

Originally posted by @Jonathan Kelly:

@James Fowler Another suggestion -  You could always rent rooms instead of the entire house.  Maybe your house would rent for say $700 (totally arbitrary number), but if you rented rooms you may be able to get $300-$350 per tenant and make a little more cash (really nice for students).  It's probably more risk, but the extra money is worth the risk to some.  When I was in school I rented a house in a shady neighborhood but it was right next to the university.  The house was probably worth $35k, but had 5 bedrooms and they each rented between $250-$300.  $1300/mo on a $35k house isn't bad...again more risk but worth the reward if you can make it work. 

 That's a great thought! I'll have to consider this going forward. Thank you! When shopping for deals I'll definitely have this filter of criteria in mind. 

Originally posted by @Tyler Ansell:

I run an all student property (570 tenants) and about 1/3 of them rely on some sort of financial assistance to pay for housing. 

We apply, screen and sign leases with people on the SAME criteria as normal...income/credit/background etc. If they don't make it by themselves or with a co-signer we offer a prepaid rent (2 months) option. 

If they have proof they're on financial aid and will receive a disbursement (or loan disbursement, same thing) then we defer that prepayment until a specified date when they get their check. In my experience most of my tenants will take their check and pay up 3-6 months depending on how much it is. When the next semester rolls over you just defer again. 

Key point is sign to agree on it, and get proof from the school that they're getting it. --in your case the bank.

Thank you for sharing, some of the thoughts have opened my eyes to newer possibilities. There is definitely some appealing positives to how this could be arranged to reach an advantageous agreement; with what you and what other's have pointed out. My brain is spinning with ideas to find properties that would well suit this type of renter!

Being that it doesn't meet my standard requirements; I'm happy having my out from having to consider it this time. The house I'm screening for may draw upper end of the scale of rent when compared to comps like it; there is too much to risk for me to feel good about that arrangement. 

Originally posted by @Denny Robert:

How's your relationship with the neighborhood? Will they care?

Also... hypothetical for everyone: what if you have a tenant who is legal when they move in, then have another baby that puts them over?

If they qualify in every other way I would consider it.

 Relationship is good, but I've been very upfront and haven't challenged often. I like to make sure when I do it's over nothing frivolous; as to make my words mean something when i do make an issue out of something. 

I've wondered this same thing about family additions... I mean, does the normal lease state limitations to who is named on the lease, or just the number of people allowed on the lease? I don't think my lease agreement does; have to check! I'm wonder what liability you could leave yourself open for if you don't keep it within compliance in a situation like that. I have heard in many cases if the people don't continue to stay there is nothing they could do as a city to enforce this; similar to if you personally used the property and had the same happen, they would have no reason for re-inspection until there is change of occupants to the property. 

Originally posted by @Kimberly H.:

@James Fowler around by us they determine it based on bedroom size. Bedroom needs to be 100 sq ft to accomodate 2 people according to the "rules". And 150 sq ft to fit 3 people and so one.  We are happy the city has the rules so we can reject all the extra wear and tear by having so many living in the house and blame it on the city rules. I actually did a showing once where some guy was so incensed by me telling him he had to many people I was glad to tell him to go take it up with city hall on Monday; he kept wanting to argue with me about it.

You could fight it if they measured the room wrong.

I believe they did measure wrong! Because each rooms are 11x12.5 (137.5 SQFT), 9x12.5(112.5 SQFT) and  9x10(90 SQFT) with an addition nook space that is apart of the room that is 4 x 5(20 SQFT); which should bring the room to 110 SQFT.  That would make the last bedroom 10 SQFT shy of 2 people if not factoring for the extra space to the room. The Kitchen and Living area is both above their standard for 6 or more occupants. After talking to the inspector he referenced this as what code they follow.

Thanks so much, you inspired me to do this homework! As we continue to screen, this "wrong" assessment may prove valuable if it become needs to become a convenient reason not to rent to someone I don't trust; much like it was for you. Another great idea!