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All Forum Posts by: Kathy Fettke

Kathy Fettke has started 6 posts and replied 94 times.

Post: OmniKey Realty (northern Texas)

Kathy Fettke
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 176

@al 

@Al D. I just saw this post. Sorry for the delay. I would like to understand the issues you had and with whom you spoke at RW. We take our job very, very seriously - that when complaints come in from our RW members, we review them carefully. I want to understand your complaint better to know how our team handled it. 

First, we have to determine if the complaint was a one-off event, or a repeated occurrence. Mistakes happen, and people learn from them. However, if those mistakes happen repeatedly, that is - of course - a bigger issue. In that case, we try to work with the property provider to understand the weaknesses in their business model and how they can improve (is it an employee issue, a market issue, a systems issue?) and if the issues cannot be fixed, we take them off our referral list until they have been fixed it. In some cases, a good property provider may suddenly become not so good - perhaps due to a sickness or death in the family or some kind of stress they are facing. 

Second, we have to find out if the complaint is coming from someone who doesn't truly understand the realities of owning rental property - are they thinking it's a passive investment like a stock, or do they understand that not every tenant is the same, not every property is the same, not every market is the same, and that vacancies and repairs can be expected - which is why reserves should be set aside for vacancies and repairs. And certainly, that inspections and appraisals should be done before every closing on a property so the buyer knows exactly what they are getting before they are owners. 

Third, in a market like Dallas, there is lack of inventory and high demand. I am assuming that over time, this property has done well. But I would like to know. Real estate is a long term investment and it's best to treat it like a real business - knowing there will be bumps in the road, and preparing for those, but also knowing that overtime, having the right structures and systems in place can make it all worth it. 

Fourth, I have contacted other RW investors who own 7-8 properties through this provider and they all said it's the best investment they ever had, and the best team they ever worked with. Who do you believe we should we listen to? The good reviews or the bad ones? Perhaps it's a problem of lack of education - which we try to provide constantly so that people can increase their financial intelligence. Pproperty providers may have different standards than buyers, so it's up to the buyer to know their standards and stick with them. I have not bought properties due to floorpans I didn't like, that the property provider that was acceptable. That was my decision, not a reflection on them. 

I know BP is a place where people like to vent, but I would like to point out that your allegation is untrue, that somehow RW keeps providers just for referral fees. There are many, many sellers out there - in fact most agents pay a referral fee to referring agents. At RW, we are very selective with whom we choose to add to our referral list. 

Post: Best cities for cash flow Detroit, Cleveland Louisville ?

Kathy Fettke
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 176

@Sakib J. It's in Euclid. We paid $35K about 5 years ago and put about $15K into it. Now it's worth 90ish. Rents for $900/mo

Post: Best cities for cash flow Detroit, Cleveland Louisville ?

Kathy Fettke
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 176

I've owned my property in Cleveland for 6 years - same tenant. It's doubled in value, and the tenant has never missed a payment. It's been a cash cow. But we bought in the right neighborhood and it was turnkey - already rehabbed. However, other RealWealth members have also got really good cash flow in Detroit. You just have to be very careful these days - buying under $50K might put you in pretty rough neighborhoods. If you're buying a C property, you'll need management that is really on top of the neighborhood and the tenant. If you buy in D neighborhoods, my experience is those properties are tough for any manager, no matter how good or experienced they are. Stay away from high crime areas.

Post: Webinar : Economic Outlook for Investors

Kathy Fettke
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 176

I'm looking forward to it and hearing what the brilliant J Scott and Neal Bawa have to say. I hope it's going to feel like we are actually in the same room around other humans! :-)

Post: Clayton Morris Loses $7.2 Million Lawsuit against HoltonWiseTV

Kathy Fettke
Pro Member
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 176

Congratulations,, @James Wise. That could not have been an easy process. I do hope investors are able to recoup some of their losses as well. Maybe they will, thanks to you

Post: How to go after Growth Equity Group-Brett Immel, Preston Despenas

Kathy Fettke
Pro Member
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 176

@Account Closed 100% they are

Post: How to go after Growth Equity Group-Brett Immel, Preston Despenas

Kathy Fettke
Pro Member
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 176

@Rowan Roderick-Jones This is really helpful. Thank you. I will spread the info to anyone I know who was affected.

Post: How to go after Growth Equity Group-Brett Immel, Preston Despenas

Kathy Fettke
Pro Member
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 176

@Account Closed and like I mentioned earlier, we found out about their shenanigans very quickly, so only a handful of people contacted them, and we immediately removed them from our referral list.

Post: How to go after Growth Equity Group-Brett Immel, Preston Despenas

Kathy Fettke
Pro Member
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 176

@Account Closed It's Ok. You're not picking a fight and it's a valid question. 

We do not charge a fee to our members and we do receive a broker to broker fee, but it is up to the broker to pay the referring broker, and GEG opted not to pay us. 

How would you recommend we vet the brokers beyond what we mentioned above? 

This is what we tell members:  These teams have a track record with us. That does NOT mean you should trust them blindly! Always vet each property thoroughly as the past does not equal the future. 

In the case of GEG, we let our members know we did not have a track record with them - they were new to us and just being tested - and therefore it was even more important to perform thorough due diligence since we can't be involved in the transaction. 

Again, on the flip side, the brokers on our list who have been around for a long time (a decade) have become quite reliable. And even with that said, real estate is real estate. Not every property is the same. In fact, they are all vastly different. Past performance does not equal future performance. Each property comes with its own set of risks and every investor must understand those risks and do the minimum - get 3rd party inspections, 3rd party appraisals, verify rents, jobs  and crime rates at city-data.com - before buying. Especially when buying out of state! And still, neighborhoods can change, tenants can go rogue, things can break etc.

I'm always looking for ways to help protect investors so I'm open to any ideas you have. I think we offer an awesome service, but we can't control what people do.

Post: How to go after Growth Equity Group-Brett Immel, Preston Despenas

Kathy Fettke
Pro Member
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 100
  • Votes 176

@Account Closed and to be clear, the people on this thread found GEG on their own, not through us.