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All Forum Posts by: Kevin S.

Kevin S. has started 22 posts and replied 381 times.

Post: How much to pay a Realtor for an off-market deal

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Quote from @Aspen Jay:

Hi everyone! Novice here, I've been looking into off-market deals but don't feel comfortable moving forward by myself. I have been working with an agent who owns rentals so is experienced and I trust his opinion, but he isn't the one finding me the off-market opportunities. But I still would love his help when I decide to move forward on one. How much % would you suggest paying him? Do I ask him what price he thinks or name a price first? Thanks in advance! 


 Just a general rule in negotiations: "He who go(talk) first, looses" :)

@ Eric

@Eric Fernwood

Great points.  Now do you have a table of comparison of property appreciation in those 3 states for last 5 yrs and 10 yrs?  2019-2024 may not be typical.  2014-2019 may reflect more typical trend??  If annual cost for Florida is $2343 more than Nevada but appreciation out perform Nevada then it's a different perspective.  Appreciate the input.  Thanks. 

Post: Today's CPI report & interest rates

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@Amber Stout

Isn't this almost impossible in Florida market at this time unless it's one of the following:

1.  Class C property/deferred maintenance/depressed area?

2.  Large down payment?

Quote from @Jeff S.:

By law, your IRA must be handled by a custodian, @Kevin S.  A self-directed 401K is different since it’s a trust. Though many IRA companies will also offer self-directed 401Ks, this is not required.

We obtained our SD 401K from our CPA, who is a retirement plan expert and offers these as a service to his clients. He is responsible for the documentation, which includes a letter from the IRS, and he administrates everything for us including periodic paperwork updates. My wife and I are the trustees and have complete control over the money and the associated investments. There is no custodian involved.

Many companies facilitate SD 401Ks just as there are IRA custodians. Some participate here but you might also ask some local investors who they use and perhaps your CPA.

Just a word of advice. Since there is no custodian involved, you must be scrupulous with your investments and have a good understanding of the rules against prohibited parties and prohibited investments. These are very easy to learn but also very easy to violate. Make sure your facilitator has a good background and is willing to educate you.


Thanks for your response. Is SD401K different from IRA? I am under the impression that 401K monies has to be moved to an IRA account in order to invest in RE. I want to use my 401K for REI. Unfortunately, my CPA is not into REI.

Post: How to make an offer and negotiate?

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Quote from @Joe Villeneuve:
Quote from @Kevin S.:

@Joe Villeneuve

How do you come up with 20% DP amount to factor in the calculation when we are still trying to figure out the offer? What(amount) is the 20% based on?  Thanks.  

I never want to go higher than 20%...which is pretty standard.  The least amount of cash you put in is very important.  It's your cash, and ONLY your cash, that defines what that property costs you.  Less is best.

 Sorry if I wasn't clear in my question.  Didn't mean cash or no cash.  I was asking how do you come up with the 20% amount to be used in the calculation of max offer.  If you don't mind can you plug in arbitrary numbers to illustrate how you come up with max offer?  Thanks.

@Jeff S.

I am considering using my 401K for REI.

Who/what company are you using as custodian?  How did you vet them?

Reason for choosing lending vs buying actual RE in your SD 401K.

Thanks.  

Post: How to make an offer and negotiate?

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@Joe Villeneuve

How do you come up with 20% DP amount to factor in the calculation when we are still trying to figure out the offer? What(amount) is the 20% based on?  Thanks.  

@Michael Tompkins

With contractor not putting any money into it, he/she would be 50/50 partner?  Is that the norm?

Quote from @Mark Cotter:
Quote from @Kevin S.:
Quote from @Devin Scott:
Quote from @Mark Cotter:

 Yea because they started those companies.  There's no person on that list that just invested in the stock market to get super rich.  Buffet is the closest but he has controlling positions much of the time and he is an operator.


 I agree.  The super rich are the ones who founded their companies.  The rich are the ones who invested early in them.

I used to be under the impression that you make money investing in stocks and thru' compounding.  True.   That's what Warren Buffet tells everyone.  That's how he became a very high net worth person by age 50.  I believe his REAL high net came about not by compounding in stock market but by actually buying companies.

I once read that the wealthy people use stock market to beat inflation but real wealth is held in real estate.  I'll find out what's true in about 50 yrs! LOL.


 "I once read that the wealthy people use the stock market to beat inflation but real wealth is held in real estate."

I don't know where you read that but it makes no sense. RE is a far better hedge against inflation since it's a real asset. Many companies are negatively affected by inflation and their stock price will fall.

If you read my entire post rather than the snippet that was pulled out of it you will see my point was in response to a post that claimed RE will make more money but takes more work. My point is that if you don't put the work in then of course stocks won't offer you the return. There is a lot more to investing in equities than index funds and buy and hold and it takes a lot of work. The other point I made in this thread was that IMO treating these 2 investing areas as alternatives to one another is the wrong way to look at it. I would first look at what you are trying to achieve, if it's personal wealth then stocks are likely best, if it's generational wealth then RE is likely the best. People should aim to do both.


 Mark, I don't disagree with you.  It's just something I once 'read' which doesn't make sense since inflation is (used to be) about 2% and stock market return is much more. 

I think the author was kinda over exaggerating to make a point to us ordinary folks that compounding makes us 'rich' but the real wealthy people did not become real wealthy via stock market but by founding their companies.  And supposedly the author researched that these super wealthy individuals after they founded their companies did not have their money in stock market anymore but rather parked their wealth in Real Estate. Stock market is for us ordinary folks to keep buying into for the 1%.

The few posts I read coming from you I hold it in high regards. As for me I am now getting involved in RE, albeit a little late.  Like I said, in about 50yrs I'll (or my kids) find out if that author was right. LOL.   

Quote from @Devin Scott:
Quote from @Mark Cotter:

 Yea because they started those companies.  There's no person on that list that just invested in the stock market to get super rich.  Buffet is the closest but he has controlling positions much of the time and he is an operator.


 I agree.  The super rich are the ones who founded their companies.  The rich are the ones who invested early in them.

I used to be under the impression that you make money investing in stocks and thru' compounding.  True.   That's what Warren Buffet tells everyone.  That's how he became a very high net worth person by age 50.  I believe his REAL high net came about not by compounding in stock market but by actually buying companies.

I once read that the wealthy people use stock market to beat inflation but real wealth is held in real estate.  I'll find out what's true in about 50 yrs! LOL.