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All Forum Posts by: Kevin Hill

Kevin Hill has started 23 posts and replied 312 times.

Post: This is Not the Real Estate Environment for Rookie Investors

Kevin HillPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Westwood, NJ
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 412
Originally posted by @Nelson Sandoval:

They told me there were no deals.

They told me this wasn't the right time.

They told me I don't have what it takes.

They told me its too hard.

They told me its too risky.

They told me I wasn't smart enough.

They told me I wasn't good enough.

They told me what I can't do. 

Glad I don't listen to others friendly ... "advice" ... and I just go do it instead. 

This is Real Estate, there is ALWAYS deals. The only reason you don't find deals and come to a conclusion there are no deals or other excuses is because.....

You.. Gave.. Up..

End.

I wouldn't get those inspirational words on a t-shirt, you're going to lose it when the market tanks. 

Post: This is Not the Real Estate Environment for Rookie Investors

Kevin HillPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Westwood, NJ
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 412
Originally posted by @Serena Kim:

@Kevin Hill

Do you expect supply to return in your area or overall in the nation at some point this year?

In FL I’m seeing a similar pattern of houses not lasting a week, with investor bidding above list price or cash offers at asking. In part that’s due to the lack of inventory. At the same time, I struggle with the thought that given how low interest rates are worldwide and central banks supporting the markets with their “whatever it takes attitude”, why can’t real estate continue this cycle for another 10yrs? What other asset can you buy out there that can generate some cashflow? Stocks and corporate bonds on average are yielding less than 2%?

We have had low inventory in my area for a few years now. Once this up cycle ends, we'll see more inventory, then eventually a buyer's market. Not looking forward to that! I remember showing a client 100+ houses during the last buyer's market because they were so overwhelmed with choices and they always thought there might be a better house on the horizon that they were willing to wait for.

Post: You're a Realtor, You Must Be Super Busy Right Now

Kevin HillPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Westwood, NJ
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 412

@Joshua Moyer the numbers have to make sense for you. If you plan on being in the house for awhile and love the house, pull the trigger. Just don't buy for the sake of buying. Realize you'll probably need to ride out the real estate cycles and have to wait until another hot market to sell. My friend sold his house in Butler in a day. 2 families everywhere are going fast (if priced properly). 

Post: You're a Realtor, You Must Be Super Busy Right Now

Kevin HillPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Westwood, NJ
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 412

It's all over the news, real estate prices are jumping up. All the residents of New York City are escaping and moving to New Jersey. Homes are selling fast. So recently and often, my friends say to me, "you must be super busy right now". I wish I could say I was super busy juggling a ton of listings, writing up contracts for buyers, and closing deals left & right. I'm busy, just not with sales right now. I know this is strange, a Realtor not portraying themself rolling in commission checks and bragging on social media about their latest listings.

For one, I have become mainly an REO agent over the past 4 years. Due to COVID-19, the Bergen County Sheriff's department and throughout New Jersey, have put all foreclosures and evictions on hold. As of this writing, sheriff foreclosure sales have been delayed to at least mid-October 2020. I suspect this is going to get pushed back even further due to government intervention. Foreclosure rates have been way down so far in 2020. It takes a long time to foreclose in New Jersey, so the effects of mortgage forbearances, unemployment, overpaying in a hot market, and homeowners cashing  out all their equity will take a few years to show up on county sheriff's foreclosure dockets.

Another reason are sales are actually way down. Let's check out the statistics (from the New Jersey MLS). These are the stats from 2019 to June 2020 in Bergen County:

Total single family sales are down 12% (3126 sales down to 2,749)

Total 2-4 family sales are down 28%(!) (347 sales down to 249)

Total condo sales are down 28%(!) (1205 to 868)

The large decline in total sales is due to the lack of available inventory and that in part is helping to drive up prices. Simple lack of supply leads to increase in price. Mortgage rates are also very low. More Bergen County stats:

Average single family home price has increased by 12%.

Average 2-4 family home price has increased by 11%.

Average condo home price has increased by 4%.

Yes I am busy, but it's with lead generation. Contacting my database, writing blog articles, posting on LinkedIn, posting on social media, driving for dollars, creating direct mail to send to homeowners in default, and valuations. All dedicated to getting new listings, because there is an overabundance of buyers, but not enough homes to meet the demand.

Post: This is Not the Real Estate Environment for Rookie Investors

Kevin HillPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Westwood, NJ
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 412
Originally posted by @Brandon C.:

@Kevin Hill

Hey Kevin, I reside in South Jersey (coincidence I know 😂) . I’m currently looking to become a real estate agent and start my courses next week.

My original plan was to just jump into it with a basic plan: down payment and rent it out but as I learn more things change.

So now I want to work part time as an agent and hopefully get a good enough commissions to quit my job and do it full-time.

Then once I hit that mile stone, I plan on getting another good enough commission to purchase my first property and rent it out. (My girlfriend isnt for the duplex house hacking sadly)

To your point stated above, would this be a good plan for a rookie? Because god forbid I wait on investing in real estate and people become millionaires in this crisis when I could’ve been one too.

I don't think its a bad plan. There is a debate for Bigger Pockets for years whether an investor should get their real estate license or not. At least you'll learn about contracts, have MLS access, be able to schedule showings yourself & have lockbox access, and have access to MLS statistics so you can research markets and activity. BUT, I don't think its an ideal time to become an agent, but I got licensed in 2008, a terrible time for residential real estate. Just keep in mind it might take you awhile to get your first sale and you'll have startup costs like E&O insurance, MLS fees, board dues, etc. Make sure you join a brokerage that offers good training because what you learn in real estate licensing school doesn't train you on how to be a good salesperson.

Post: This is Not the Real Estate Environment for Rookie Investors

Kevin HillPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Westwood, NJ
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 412
Originally posted by @Alejandro Espinosa:

@Kevin Hill you are right, I have been looking for a 2 family house for me to hack and it's impossible to get a property at the listing price, many people are over paying just to get the house. However in reality, some new Yorkers are the okay paying more due to the high prices in NYC, whick in turn, I think it's creating an inflation in prices in commuter towns. Amazingly enough a 2 family home in Union city just got sold for 750k. Also, this opens some opportunities for smart flippers, who can turn a property quickly enough for the current market. But it's hard to see what will happen in the next six months as people learn to live around COVID-19 and while a vaccine gets develop. Let's see what happens. Thanks for your post , it really helps rookies like me keeping our feet grounded.

$750k in Union City for a 2 family is crazy! I saw this one on Zillow today in Union, only 1 bedroom in each unit and listed just under $1 million!! https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/516-518-27th-St-Union-City-NJ-07087/38942178_zpid/

Post: This is Not the Real Estate Environment for Rookie Investors

Kevin HillPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Westwood, NJ
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 412
Originally posted by @Jon Pierre:

Since the bubble bust of 2008, here in The Greater Seattle Area, we have had a better than average economy. Out pacing most other states thanks greatly to some large local companies.. Boeing, Amazon, Microsoft, Google, etc. etc... This better than average economy has made many people, Investors, flippers as well as myself feel that we were protected from anything economically going bad in the rest of the USA. 

I would tell people who were worried about a recession or a slow market that "It does not matter what the rest of the country is doing, we are in our own world here, they can go belly up and we will always be alright". Self Sustaining....... But then guess what?? COVID 19.

So, our economy is still doing great. As a matter of fact homes in the upper scale of $750 - $1.2 mil are doing better than ever thanks to the low interest rates. The homes on the $250K-$400 I think have slowed a lot. After all, that is the price range that buyers are now layed off. 

Now here is what I see coming and here is what I am doing (as well as a great many flipper and investor friends of mine). ..... . ..... . .....

We have been listing as many of our rentals as we can. We have been putting all of our condos up for sale vacant or not. This started back in early March for us, a few others took a bit longer to catch on but they also are following suite. 

We see a large increase of foreclosures in the not so far off future. The govt cannot forgive and will not forgive the mortgage debt that is coming due. There will be more foreclosures coming and with that brings lower prices whether it is at auction or from sheer desperation by the seller. 

The rentals in Wa are already slow and many people that do apply truly do not qualify. Since March, we have listed all vacant homes and we have been listing all the condos we have whether they are vacant or not because there is always a buyer and the condos carry a much larger overhead when vacant thanks to very high HOA fees. We are not underselling. We are not having a yard sale and discounting anything. We are still getting very good prices but not as well as it should be. Maybe 5% less than it should be and no bidding wars. The last 3 sells this month only received one offer each.

We have been stock piling the cash ready to pounce when the market hits and in the mean time we are flipping carefully. But not the lower end properties which typically have such a large buying pool. Nope we are flipping the higher priced properties which there is no problem finding qualified buyers for. They are the people that were not layed off. They have good secure jobs or get to work from home or maybe they are retired. 

Now I know that it has always been said that "hold all the properties that you can afford to hold and it will come back and increase in value in the long run." -- and YES IT WILL !! But..... why not sell now while the prices are still high and pick up foreclosures on the other end when it comes. I don't think it will be another 2008 at all, but why should I sit on properties that can bring in cash to buy the discounted ones next year? It is not that we need the cash, but it is that we will be essentially trading up by selling now and buying F.C. at a discount.

Before the foreclosures start coming, people will start selling to keep one off their credit report and we are already seeing it. My phone has rang twice while typing this, concerned people considering selling their home to avoid the foreclosure that they see coming.

So to the new investor, please take this with a grain of salt and a jigger of Patrone' tread lightly and understand your market. In addition.. if you are new at this, please do not involve your family members financially. There are many other ways of getting financing without the gamble of possible financial misery of a loved one. -- Good Luck - Jon

I love that strategy Jon! Sell high, buy low!

Post: This is Not the Real Estate Environment for Rookie Investors

Kevin HillPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Westwood, NJ
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 412
Originally posted by @Toure Brady:

@Kevin Hill wondering what you’ve seen on Tik Tok in regards to creative lead generation?

Investors are posting creative videos about their methods for finding deals, the numbers on their deals, and telling stories. Tik toc is gaining older users now, not just teenagers posting dance videos. If you use hashtags like #realestateinvestors you'll find their videos. Its a good tool to create the videos then cross post them on Instagram, Facebook etc. It adds an element of entertainment and increases attention. Gary Vaynerchuk has been hyping it too as a useful tool for entrepreneurs. 

Post: This is Not the Real Estate Environment for Rookie Investors

Kevin HillPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Westwood, NJ
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 412

I wasn't speaking strictly about flips. I am seeing 2 family homes selling so high (we also have very high taxes in NJ) that have no chance of ever cash flowing. And since they are being sold so high, they also don't have much chance of appreciating in value, which you can never assume it will appreciate when you buy. 2 families that only have 1 or 2 bedrooms on each floor. 

I know people are big on the BRRR strategy, but cashing out all your equity in these market conditions is crazy to me. What if you have a long term vacancy and can't pay the mortgage? It often takes 6 months or more to evict a tenant here in New Jersey. Right now, you can't even evict someone with the Governor putting all foreclosures and evictions on hold until at least mid-October (most likely will be longer). If you can find a multi-family deal that cash flows in New Jersey (1% or 2% rule is very hard to find), then pull the trigger! That good deal will most likely have to be an off market deal with a seller really motivated or not educated on the current market conditions.

Many of the foreclosures I get, the homeowner did a cash out refinance at some point when the market was good and were now $200k underwater. Many investors got their asses handed to them during the last downturn when they were overleveraged. History repeats itself. Everyone likes to say "things are different this time." I remember people saying condos in NJ will never go down in price because there is such a demand for housing. In actuality, condos were the first thing that went down and many still haven't reached their 2007 prices.

I think things are too fluid and risky right now for an inexperienced investor. I'm not saying sit on your hands and do nothing, but do your research and be ready to buy when the down market comes. That's when many riches are made.

Loving the discussion by the way, thanks for all the Bigger Pockets members for reading and the comments. Lets keep it going!

Post: This is Not the Real Estate Environment for Rookie Investors

Kevin HillPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Westwood, NJ
  • Posts 321
  • Votes 412

Good points @James Hamling! We all to adapt to the conditions and think outside the box for sure in times like these, but many times history repeats itself in the real estate cycle. After foreclosures dried up, I have had to shift my business focus and marketing techniques until the next wave of foreclosures happens. Best thing a newbie investor can do is come up with new methods for lead creation. I see some creative things being done for real estate on Tik Tok believe it or not. I embrace new technologies, as some parts of real estate are still behind the times.