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All Forum Posts by: Kevin Hunter

Kevin Hunter has started 12 posts and replied 47 times.

Quote from @Paul De Luca:

@Kevin Hunter

If you can pass along the gas costs to the tenants, assuming there are separate meters, you should. Like John stated above if the garden unit is non conforming you want to understand the metering situation. 

Is the garden unit on the public/common area meter or are they sharing with the first floor meter? If it's a legal 2 flat with garden unit there is only two gas meters (units 1 & 2) and usually 3 electric meters (unit 1, unit 2, & public). Once that's understood you can explain to tenants what utilities are included and which they pay. It's normal for tenants to pay electric and gas anyway, but it's atypical for tenants to pay for water/garbage in a multi-family building.

Thanks Paul for the info, much appreciated!
Quote from @John Warren:

@Kevin Hunter as long as your furnaces are separately metered, I would have the tenants pay for their own heating costs. If this is a duplex plus "bonus" garden unit, then you might have some commingling of utilities which always causes some issue. I would try to think as far ahead on this as you can. Is the garden on the public gas and electric? Can you install a small heater in there so the 1st floor doesn't think they are paying for the garden, etc? 

I don't personally see a lot of people trying to bill back garbage and water. I am not saying you can't, but I just don't see it done. 

Thanks John for the info! So yes, it’s a “bonus” garden unit. It’s commingled with the 1st fl (gas and electric) and the 1st fl tenant is aware, garden unit is vacant right now but they are aware. 2nd fl unit has own furnace, I’m finishing up “light” rehab and should be done in the next week or so. I plan to market it out as “gas and electric” paid by tenant. But I’ve just been wondering if the gas is a “dealbreaker” given the area I’m in. 

Good evening BP community, I’m checking in to get a few thoughts related to utilities being paid by the tenant. What’s the standard in Chicago for what utilities tenants are responsible for these days? I have a multi-family property in the East Side neighborhood. Tenants pay own electric but building also has individual furnaces. When I bought Previous owner was paying for heat but had “Lockboxes” on thermostats in units to minimum 68 degrees. Should I remove lockboxes and push costs to tenants? I suppose I should also ask myself if that costs would push them “over the edge” from being able to pay rent. Also is anyone charging individually for water/garbage, on top of what they collect in rent? Just wondering how you’d assess that accurately. Building is 2 unit plus garden unit. Any insight is greatly appreciated!

Hello BP Community! I'm looking for some guidance on what's best to get a tenant out as efficiently as possible. I posted last week under the title "How to remove a tenant, "softly"....Here's the update! Tenant is on MTM lease, I provided a 60day notice last week, it played out EXACTLY how I thought it would. She's now stating she will not pay rent the last 2 months and that I'll need to take her to court! I've told her that I hope she doesn't choose that route and as that would be a violation of the lease, at which point, an eviction process can begin. Rent is due the 1st of every month but grace period until 5th, my gut tells me she will not be paying anything for July...At this point what is the easiest? Do I "dig in" and start with a cure or quit notice to begin process after she's late OR do I attempt to offer cash for keys? I just want her gone and to start fresh but I also really don't want to give her money to leave! this would be my 1st time doing either process (eviction or cash for keys), and I hear the WAIT TIME on evictions take forever for Chicago.  Any insight or guidance would be appreciated. thanks 

Quote from @Theresa Harris:

Tell her if she's not happy with the apartment, she as 72 hours to let you know and she can move out at the end of July with no penalty for breaking the lease.  Remind her she viewed the unit prior to renting and it is in the same condition.   Also stop responding every time she asks for something.  No is a perfectly acceptable answer.


 thanks Theresa

Quote from @Tommy Parker:

I agree with @Paul De Luca on this one. There has to be both parties holding up their agreement and it looks like she isn't. 


 thanks Tommy

Quote from @John Warren:

@Kevin Hunter you are right that things often times get messy with this 60 day notice we have to give, but at the same time that is your next step if you are done with a tenant. Move swiftly to get the person to move out. I wouldn't offer cash for keys unless things really escalate. We as landlords need to stop using cash for keys so much. 


 thanks John! 

Quote from @Paul De Luca:

@Kevin Hunter

Give her the notice and then remind her that she agreed to the terms of the lease and that includes rent being due on time. If she pays late again assess the late fees you can and send her a 5 day demand letter. If one party isn't upholding their end of the agreement there needs to be consequences. Try to get as much of your communications in writing as possible too. Since she's a difficult tenant I would offer her early lease termination and only prorated rent charges to incentivize her to move out early. You can't control how she reacts so just keep it professional. Nothing personal, just business.


 thanks Paul!

Hello BP community! I’m reaching out to my landlords for some advice. I have a tenant that moved in at the beginning of the year, 1st apartment for her so no previous rental history but credit and steady flow of income was solid. I was willing to give her a chance. I’m sure some know the story from here…out of 6 months she’s been late on 2 of them. I hear from her repeatedly about every little thing that she “thinks” should be better. I respond right away and take care of repairs in a timely fashion. It is a garden unit, not a dungeon by any means but probably could use some updating. She was late last month, I assessed a late fee and she only paid the rent. At this point, it is not worth the hassle, I just want her to go. I did place her on a MTM lease just to see how things played out. I’m glad I did. In cook county so I know I need to give her a 60 day notice. I want to collect my rent these last 2 months without issue but I’m afraid things are going to get messy once I break the news. Any suggestions? This is my 1st go around! I assume I need to deliver a “termination of lease” notice or something before I just call and tell her about it? Thanks for any info!

Post: East Side of Chicago?

Kevin HunterPosted
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Quote from @Tom Shallcross:

Jared Kott of Marblestone Properties has a ton of units down there, lives in the area, is high immersed in the community, and also provides management. 

We had him on Episode 11 of the Straight Up Chicago Investor Podcast to specifically talk about the East side and Alphabet letter streets if you want to give it a listen and potentially reach out to him. 


 Thanks Tom! I've been a fan of the podcast now for the last year, i'll have to go back and listen to that episode! Keep up the great work, the content you and Mark provide has been invaluable in my landlording journey!