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All Forum Posts by: Kevin Goldman

Kevin Goldman has started 3 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: All Cash or Loan

Kevin Goldman
Posted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Los Angeles
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 13
Quote from @Engelo Rumora:
Quote from @Kevin Goldman:

Just got back to Los Angeles from inspecting the property in Toledo...  Laundry list of deferred maintenance, looked like total slumlord status:   I cancelled escrow today.  

  • Moisture in ceiling; subfloor damage.
  • Moisture in ceiling; staining and previous repairs.
  • Moisture in baseboard and floor.
  • Moisture in ceiling; staining.
  • Moisture in ceiling.
  • Roof replacement; address moisture and leaks.
  • Exterior inspection; identify and fix moisture sources.
  • Fix moisture damage.
  • Electrical system overhaul; ensure safety and compliance.
  • Temporary housing costs for tenants during repairs.


  • Sorry to hear this.

    I would always say that "There is nothing wrong with any property as long as the price is right".

    Granted, some are not salvageable and the deal doesn't make sense even if the seller paid to me to take it lol

    Over the past 10 years I have witnessed many investors trying to do the same thing as you.

    Purchase from afar without buying turnkey and trying to do it themselves.

    This has been popular especially the last few years.

    Not many succeed unfortunately or they don't succeed in my eyes as they are into deals for much more than what they should be.

    There is a big trend going on where folks are made to "feel involved" with the purchase, rehab and property management process.

    The properties look great and off-course they do as rehabs cost $40,000 - $50,000.

    It doesn't sound like a lot of money for folks from CA and NY but for our local standards it is and IMO kills the cashflow and is unnecessary overcapitalization.

    Each to their own I guess.

    Just had a call the other week with a fellow from CA that bought a few turd properties from a local scam artist and is flying to town to try and rehab them himself.

    Another fella I managed to save even tho he lost his deposit of $1,000 as the seller (Another known scam artist) made him commit to the deal without allowing an inspection or even a walkthrough...

    If that isn't a red flag then I don't know what is 🤷‍♂️

    Hat's off to you for flying into to town to see the property for yourself.

    Wishing you much success

     Thanks man, yea luckily I had great agents that do 100+ transactions a year helping me and who I know personally and trust.  we will see what happens next.

    Post: All Cash or Loan

    Kevin Goldman
    Posted
    • Real Estate Agent
    • Los Angeles
    • Posts 12
    • Votes 13

    Just got back to Los Angeles from inspecting the property in Toledo...  Laundry list of deferred maintenance, looked like total slumlord status:   I cancelled escrow today.  

  • Moisture in ceiling; subfloor damage.
  • Moisture in ceiling; staining and previous repairs.
  • Moisture in baseboard and floor.
  • Moisture in ceiling; staining.
  • Moisture in ceiling.
  • Roof replacement; address moisture and leaks.
  • Exterior inspection; identify and fix moisture sources.
  • Fix moisture damage.
  • Electrical system overhaul; ensure safety and compliance.
  • Temporary housing costs for tenants during repairs.
  • Post: All Cash or Loan

    Kevin Goldman
    Posted
    • Real Estate Agent
    • Los Angeles
    • Posts 12
    • Votes 13
    Quote from @Chris Rosenberg:

    What a great position to be in! I don’t know the rest of your financial picture but if you are a realtor and have $1 mil cash to put into real estate and no other assets I would diversify a bit into other investments. If the real estate market crashes you lose your job and your wealth. I personally prefer to not be over leveraged but I have at least some type of leverage on every property. If I were you (and there are many things I don’t know about you) I might put half into cash flowing real estate at 60-70% leverage (to get depreciation, loan pay down, cashflow, and hopefully appreciation) and invest a large portion of the rest into something else. And also keep a nice chunk of change in reserves or very safe short term investments. But the very last thing I would do is put the whole $1 mil into real estate if that’s all you have. If you have lots of other wealth in other buckets then disregard my last comment. Hope this helps!


     Thanks for your response dude, I just invested $300k into a syndication deal in Vegas, I am looking at a quadplex in Toledo for $380k'ish that I would probably pay cash for and cash flow to gross $4250 a month, and keep the other $300k'sh invested with my manager.  I could either take a heloc out against the property down the road when rates drop and buy more properties or get a SBL to buy more.  definitely want to be diversified, may look into 2nd trusts deeds but i need to make moves soon and generate some cash flow. 

    Post: All Cash or Loan

    Kevin Goldman
    Posted
    • Real Estate Agent
    • Los Angeles
    • Posts 12
    • Votes 13

    Thanks everyone for the input, i spoke to my money manager yesterday, she mentions a Secured Bank Loan as a line of credit borrowed against my investments with them. 

    It would be an adjustable rate starting at current rates about 7%, with rates hopefully coming down through the next year, if I bought a quadplex in Toledo that i'm currently looking at for $380k, it would be grossing me $4250 a month with a payment back to Chase of about $2200, still in the green after insurance, property taxes and management fees, and the money i'm borrowing against will still be invested HOPEFULLY continuing to grow with the current stock market.

    Anyone ever bought a property with an SBL?

    Post: All Cash or Loan

    Kevin Goldman
    Posted
    • Real Estate Agent
    • Los Angeles
    • Posts 12
    • Votes 13
    Quote from @Bhargav Hirapara:

    Investing in multiple markets can mitigate risk and provide exposure to different economic cycles. Toledo, Ohio, as you mentioned, could be a good option for cash flow properties. However, it's wise to explore other markets as well, such as the Sunbelt region. which has seen strong population and job growth.

    Leverage vs. All-Cash

    Both strategies have pros and cons. Leveraging with mortgages allows you to acquire more properties and potentially higher returns, but also comes with more risk. All-cash purchases provide stability and simplicity but may limit your portfolio size.

    A balanced approach could be:

    Use a portion (e.g., $400k-$600k) to purchase a few smaller multifamily properties (2-4 units) in cash-flowing markets like Toledo. This provides immediate income and appreciation potential.

    Allocate another portion (e.g., $200k-$400k) as down payments on larger multifamily properties (5-20 units) in growth markets, utilizing leverage. This can amplify returns but carries more risk.

    Reserve some funds (e.g., $100k-$200k) for reserves, renovations, and future opportunities like syndications or funds.


     Thanks for your response and info Bhargav!

    Post: All Cash or Loan

    Kevin Goldman
    Posted
    • Real Estate Agent
    • Los Angeles
    • Posts 12
    • Votes 13

    I have been sitting around and lost out on some multi families in the markets i'm looking at investing in.  I have about $1mil from a sale that I need to put to work.  I live in Los Angeles and do not want to buy in california.  I have been thinking about renting a place for myself and putting the $1 mil to work in real estate investments but diversified in markets, and direct syndication.  i've been in analysis paralysis not wanting to squander this amazing cash out return I got on a property.

    I have been trying to figure out if i should look into loans and buying more property for less carry a mortgage and utilize that debt in the future, or just say screw it and buy a couple 100k-300k properties all cash and 1031 in 2-5 years.

    any input or guidance on helping me make my ADHD mind up would be great!

    I have an agent friend and investor helping me in Toledo Ohio as toledo has great cash flow opportunities.

    Post: Figuring out my next move

    Kevin Goldman
    Posted
    • Real Estate Agent
    • Los Angeles
    • Posts 12
    • Votes 13
    Quote from @Michael Smythe:

    @Kevin Goldman if you plan on paying all cash on purchased rentals, your biggest challenge will be deciding what risk-reward strategy to pursue:

    SFR vs MFR

    What property Class?


     Thats exactly where i'm currently at

    Post: Figuring out my next move

    Kevin Goldman
    Posted
    • Real Estate Agent
    • Los Angeles
    • Posts 12
    • Votes 13

    property taxes were $600 a month.

    insurance was $220 a month

    so in reality netting...  $4,380

    spent $7,000 painting the house before I sold it, and replacing some hardware

    Post: Figuring out my next move

    Kevin Goldman
    Posted
    • Real Estate Agent
    • Los Angeles
    • Posts 12
    • Votes 13
    Quote from @Michael Smythe:

    @Kevin Goldman what you haven't shared is what your ROI was on the property.

    $5200 in gross monthly rent doesn't tell us anything about the property taxes, insurance, maintenance, etc. 

    Without knowing the ROI you just gave up, how do you know what to target going forward?

    the property was paid off, all cash flow

    Post: First real estate purchase for end user turned into rental and sold

    Kevin Goldman
    Posted
    • Real Estate Agent
    • Los Angeles
    • Posts 12
    • Votes 13

    the money is currently in an account getting me 5% untill i make a decision...  I'm looking at investing out of california at nevada, ohio, alabama, arkansas maybe florida...  Trying to find that 1% RTP, after now losing the $5200 a month I was getting.  The property was owned with no debt so it was all cash flow.  I want to find something that will be the same situation... My friends in Toledo are getting are getting 1% monthly RTPS on almost all of their 22 investment properties there...  the only downside is the appreciation outside of California sucks.