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All Forum Posts by: Kevin Greene

Kevin Greene has started 11 posts and replied 49 times.

Post: Note Investing, Lending, and Seller Financing

Kevin GreenePosted
  • Virginia Beach, VA
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 14

Anyone in the area into private lending, seller financing, or note investing? Seems like the networking opportunities in the area seemed to be more geared to the popular strategies of flipping, wholesaling, and buy-and-hold. 

I have done some lending from my IRA, so I'm always researching and looking to improve that process. I would like to learn more about seller financing and notes in general. There is so much to learn in this space I really think we could benefit from some kind of meetup. If anyone wants to share ideas on any of these topics, please let me know!

Yep, I am. Let me know if you have anything. I prefer 23435 but will do 23434, if it's not in the bad areas of downtown Suffolk.

Post: United funding corp?? SCAM or NOT

Kevin GreenePosted
  • Virginia Beach, VA
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 14

What seems too good to be true? Monthly PITI of $1990 on a 30year mortgage for $298,000 sounds about right to me. Maybe you are buying the property 'subject to' the existing mortgage, and they are taking their profit out of the down payment? Just a thought, I don't know their business model nor am I an expert in finance.

I do personally know a serious investor who has used them and recommended them, so they are a legitimate business. I would try to find out more about the financing involved. ARM and HELOC? Are there two liens on the property or what?

Post: Expense accounting for flip property

Kevin GreenePosted
  • Virginia Beach, VA
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 14

Hello everyone,

Working on my first flip and honestly the hardest part has been keeping track of expenses. I get receipts from my contractors and enter the line items into Excel. I then categorize each line item, and Excel sums each budget category. This way I can see my budget utilization for each category, such as "Kitchen", "Bathroom", "Flooring", etc. If there is an overrun I can instantly see how that will effect my end profit. Dealing with receipts is my biggest time-sink! It's easier if the receipt is for one and only one budget area, because I can just do one line in my spreadsheet for the total. A bulk purchase may have many different items on that need to be parsed out and categorized line-by-line. I enjoy the granularity this provides but the process has its flaws. It is tedious, time-consuming, and not particularly scale-able (although I'm working on that - see below). 

I'm working on a system to collect digital and paper receipts, scan and e-mail them to Podio, and then have a VA parse the receipts for me. I'm still working on how I would import that into my financial software of choice (Currently an amalgamation of Excel and YNAB, but experimenting with Quickbooks). Once I figure out my optimal solution I plan to do a write-up to share with other investors struggling with accounting (Especially keeping track of paper receipts).

With all that said, I want to know how YOU account for expenses during a flip. Do you just add it all up at the end and whatever is leftover is profit? Or are you a maniac like me and watching every nickle and dime that's spent? What software and processes are you using? I'd love to hear the nuts and bolts of how others deal with this issue.

EDIT: I don't spell gud.

@Jered Sturm Thanks for the excellent write up. Very clearly illustrates the value of owning real estate. I actually do plan on investing in real estate outside of my IRA for the reasons you mentioned. Within my retirement account, though, I like the idea of lending. I don't really want to jump through all of the custodial hoops trying to manage a property in an IRA. It's also tax-deferred growth, so the tax benefits you mentioned do not seem to be as relevant in that type of vehicle. I have other personal reasons as well. I'm busy with my full-time job and child. I think I can make the time to make a couple loans a year. Managing flips or armies of tenants? Not so much. Also, it seems like everyone wants to flip properties these days. From what I've seen around here, any decent deal that hits the MLS is snapped up immediately. Instead of panning for a few flakes of gold I figure I'll sell pickaxes :)

@Account Closed Thanks for the suggestions. I am still evaluating IRA custodians. These fees really bother me so I'm looking for the best combination of low fees and still decent service.

Can't believe I forgot to mention previously, but yesterday I spoke to someone I met through the local REIA about lending. Once I get my SDIRA squared away I am going to help them fund a deal. I am confident in this person's character as well as track record, so I think this will be a good start. I'm very excited and look forward to sharing whatever I may learn. Shout out to everyone on BP, especially @Joshua Dorkin and @Brandon Turner for making this an awesome place to get started in real estate investing!

Thanks for the insight everyone! Definitely learning a lot, and best of all, learning the answers to questions I had not thought to ask. I have not read Banker's Code, as it seems to only be available on hardcover or kindle unlimited, but I picked up Making The Yield by Salvatore Buscemi. I just finished it and it is a concise and clearly written introduction to the topic. Definitely recommended to anyone looking to get a good overview of the topic of private lending.

@Jason Clinton, @Salvatore Lentini, thanks for providing actionable advice. Another question: is a loan servicer usually used in short-term (6-12 month) loans for a flip? 

Hello everyone!

I am looking to get started lending out of my IRA. I looked into note buying, and while I really liked the idea, it seemed like having good access to notes was key and I don't have that.

Right now I'm attending the local REIA in order to network and meet other investors. I'm also working selecting a self-directed IRA custodian. I know I will need excellent legal and tax advisers, and I have people for that. I'm a little cloudy on the next steps though. Part of my confusion lies in the terminology in this field. Private money lender, broker, loan servicer, hard money lender, etc. I don't completely understand the roles and responsibilities of each party to this type of transaction.

Can anyone help me fully grok the next steps I should be taking? If there's any educational material I should check out, let me know! Thanks BP!!!