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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 6 posts and replied 25 times.

Post: Is Wholesaling the New Guru Strategy?

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Quote from @Andy Rumple:

Wholesaling is awesome! Like it better than when I owned 21 units of rental property. Newbies and Gurus will always damage the perception of wholesaling of most investors but me and my buyers are doing great!

I wouldn’t give people **** just because they are starting out in an area. Mainly it is the gurus who are ruining everything for everyone!

Post: How to wholesale with no money or license? Is it even possible?

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Quote from @Lydia R.:

@Phillip Hooks-Wright I am going to give it to you straight. It is not possible to wholesale with no money. If you have no money or very little, or if you are struggling to pay your bills then real estate investing is not for you right now. You need to get your finances in order before you get into this game. Wholesaling is promoted as the ‘get rich quick with no money’ way to get into real estate. Thats all bull crap. Everyone promoting that message has something to sell you. Period. It takes money to wholesale. It takes a lot of specialized knowledge to wholesale. There is a lot that goes into wholesaling that no one will tell you about. Start with getting your finances in order. While you are doing that take the time to actually learn about wholesaling. Actual info, not that Max Maxwell garbage. Go to meetups and REIAs. Start talking to people who actually do what you are trying to do. Thats honestly the best advice I can give you. Probably not what you wanted hear. Good luck!

This is why I want to really confront all these gurus who make things a million times easier than it sounds!

Post: Is Pace Morby a Scam?

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Quote from @Aaron Gordy:

I have no idea why folks spend a ton of hard earned money on these "guru"  classes. It seems not the best way to spend money. You could have used that $8800 to possibly have partnered with someone locally that is already doing the subject to deals to figure it out first hand. "Gurus' make money off chumps imo. Do you know of any so called guru's that has become a billionaire from real estate? Please educate me if you know of one. The real real estate billionaires aren't doing that stuff, fyi. 


 There needs to be someone similar to Always Marco on Youtube with the MLMs where you have someone exposing gurus who sell ******** courses.

If you want to legitimately learn wholesaling, stop wasting money on ******** courses, and pay for such things as hiring an attorney to properly set up contracts, hire people to do inspections and appraisals, and hire CPAs to make sure that your business operates properly. Forget the gurus who act like they know everything without any experience.

People say "oh don't make things more complicated then it is". But when i have the time or money to start what I want to start, I would rather be safe then sorry. If you think like those gurus or think like those gurus, then you can kick rocks pretty much.

Post: Is creative real estate investing just GURU pixie dust or what?

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Quote from @Account Closed:

Hello all,

I'm going to be spending a tidy sum on inbound internet marketing starting late next week.  My goal is to simply monetize as much of what comes through the pipeline as possible. So, I cannot be a one trick wholesaling pony.

To that end, my wife and I have  been getting our ducks in a row.

  • RE license. Check.
  • Buyers list. Check.
  • Target market. Check.

That said, I have been finding it exceedingly difficult to:

  1. Find a mentor and give them money for help with my "creative deals."  Basically, I'd like to say "Hey John, I have a deal. If it's worth your time to help me get this done, you can have half of the money, I'll gain knowledge. We both win."   
  2. Find a real estate lawyer in FL who works with investors. 

Finding a mentor and giving them money is hard.  Finding a lawyer is hard.  What gives?  Everyone pounds the table saying "find a mentor and hire a lawyer" but why is it this difficult? 

I would really appreciate feedback. Let me just quickly highlight that the strategy I've been using to find mentors is the strategy I've been using to find buyers; meet ups.  

I've built a nice sized "buyers" list through meet ups but am skeptical these folks are even "buyers" as my success rate finding a creative real estate investing mentor who stands to benefit from the nearly $10k monthly I'll spend on marketing is proving to be an exercise in futility.  

As a YouTuber myself, I see its flooded with GURUS promoting $500 - $5000 products on how to invest in real estate "creatively."  It makes absolutely no sense for me to spend $5,000 on some course where the producer will pound the table telling me to hire a lawyer after I have paid him $5,000 - whereas, I could just pay a lawyer $5,000 to draw up a bunch of contracts. 

Thanks for listening and I welcome your thoughts! 

So called Gurus and Mentors are a whole entire scam at this point. Your best bet is to work with Lawyers, learn how to do Inspection and Appraisal on your own or outsource the work to professionals, go to your local courthouse or work with disposition managers to find off market properties. Also, use some free resources online if you need to as well! Use online sources, work with lawyers, inspectors, appraisers and accountants to put the deals and they will be the people to work with. Skip the "so-called" mentors who deliver promises but in reality they are full of bs.


Post: What are the Real Costs Associated with Wholesaling a Property?

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Quote from @Irina Belkofer:
Originally posted by @Summer Starr:

 So nobody talked about initial investment. IE.. Gas from driving around trying to find properties amount of hours spent looking, to how they found investors. Seems to me you’d have to have a lot of spare time and gas money. 

 This is the best kept secret.

When all the gurus try to seduce wannabe RE investors without any money, they omit the fact that there will be money but much more time. This will be more than full time job without income to rely on....besides, legal obstacles might leave you not only without money from transaction but with money spent on lawyers.

After all, wholesaling is brokering without license. It takes one good complain to the Division if RE or Board of Realtors....it costs around here $10K for the first offense ....or maybe more now 


 One of the things I get really annoyed is by these so-called "gurus" who are selling this idea of wholesaling forgetting that there are so many issues going on including legalities, who pays what and environments where people screw over one another. It is literally insane.


 There needs to be more voices on Social Media debunking all the Gurus and calling out every single one of their stupid behaviors. You have to know how to actually appraise properties, how to deal with the legalities of contracts, and how to negotiate and much much more. We need to call out the gurus and seriously find a way to actually bring an end to the "guru" industry.

Post: What are the Real Costs Associated with Wholesaling a Property?

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Quote from @Irina Belkofer:
Originally posted by @Summer Starr:

 So nobody talked about initial investment. IE.. Gas from driving around trying to find properties amount of hours spent looking, to how they found investors. Seems to me you’d have to have a lot of spare time and gas money. 

 This is the best kept secret.

When all the gurus try to seduce wannabe RE investors without any money, they omit the fact that there will be money but much more time. This will be more than full time job without income to rely on....besides, legal obstacles might leave you not only without money from transaction but with money spent on lawyers.

After all, wholesaling is brokering without license. It takes one good complain to the Division if RE or Board of Realtors....it costs around here $10K for the first offense ....or maybe more now 


 One of the things I get really annoyed is by these so-called "gurus" who are selling this idea of wholesaling forgetting that there are so many issues going on including legalities, who pays what and environments where people screw over one another. It is literally insane.

Post: Do you guys know of any good title companies that will work with TX Wholesalers

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Quote from @Bruce Lynn:

You probably don't need to reinvent the wheel with contracts.

We have a great Texas TREC contract that most people use and are familiar with including the attorneys and title companies.   Most of the good attorneys I know even suggest people use that one for residential purchase/sales.   While they could create a new one, then it takes time and potentially expense for others to read and understand it.


 Bruce, if you are willing to do so, let me know if you can send me some of the TREC contracts for purchase and sale agreements, as well as assignment of contract deals.

Also let me know how I can add clauses concerning purchase and sale agreements and assignment of contract deals!

Post: Dealing with auction companies as an Assignor to the Assignee

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One of the things I am considering looking into will involve selling my property as an assignor to an asignee via an auction house. What are the overall costs to have a property getting sold at an auction house from the wholesaler's pocket? Because I heard that auction houses are the quickest ways to get properties sold.

Post: Property wholesale contracts and earnest money questions!

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Quote from @Johny Omaga:

I can help if you dont have EMD. I can help you close , lets connect!


 I am not currently working on any deals at the moment but when I do, I would like to definitely get some help!

Post: Do you guys know of any good title companies that will work with TX Wholesalers

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Quote from @Account Closed:

It seems that you are in Katy. I have lots of family nearby there!


 Yes I am.  Trying to find more deals right here in Katy :)


Good to hear. I will have to find a way where I can start drafting contracts properly with legal professionals. I need to get estimates on the costs of how much it would take to get contracts properly drafted. Maybe find proper mentoring programs or deal with let's say legal aid programs where I can have contracts set up properly and correctly!